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You just admitted it lag spikes when using it though??

Sorry to hear that! We don't give out any ETAs but hopefully not much longer for one

Hello bro thanks for your reply. So I'm confused, what should we be doing? Turn on Geo filter and set my location to which country? I live in the UK so I just want to understand. Thank you bro!

Thanks Fraser

Okay that's good then, the router isn't limiting you, it's just the speed test provider the router uses isn't always the most accurate so you can ignore that

Ya I've addressed all of this. Thanks though

steady ping has been an absolute game changer for me when the server gets destroyed to lag and etc. try it out. I kept mine on default value

It's the Windows Task Manager

Obrigado.

This isn’t a support post, this is just a post from a hardcore call of duty ranked player giving my honest review of the router. Because ive been seeing soooo much negativity about this router. Ive been playing ranked play on call of duty modern warfare 3 on pc for about 8 hours a day. I can honestly say the netduma r3 melts my enemies. I’ve tried multiple different routers so I know how each router feels when you’re playing competitively when every millisecond counts! I’ve tried Openwrt, Ubiquiti, Arista, Mikrotik, Pfsense and Asus ROG routers. They all do very good A+ 0ms bufferbloat with QOS. BUT the problem with those routers is the hit detection / lag comp. Where you clearly see the enemy and shoot them first and you die first. It’s like you shoot nerf bullets and they just INSTA DELETE you! I don’t know how netduma does it but this router is manipulating the lag comp / hit detection to give you a advantage. I mean theres still some moments when I’m like how did I lose that gunfight but it’s ALOT less compared to those other routers. The latest firmware still has some bugs that I’m sure is going to be fixed.. but the firmware is more than playable for me Anyone else feels this way or its only me?

Just updated and it seems like the issue disappeared, did not need to reset factory settings either. Interface loads way faster too. Thanks for the access.

Ça donne quoi, si tu fais un ping vers 8.8.8.8 sur ton PC ?

@purpleandgold33You shouldn't rely on it since it's inaccurate and requires an update. I believe they are working on a fix to improve its accuracy. In the meantime, adjust your sqm manually.

No worries at all, do keep us updated and any questions/issues just ask!

Thank you i appreciate it 🙏

Auto will work when you're gaming (assuming that's what you're prioritizing on SmartBOOST) so you don't need to set it to Always

Can't believe it's been 11 years since I joined the forum , during that time I have had the R1 / R2 XR500 with R2 OS and now the R3. Today my R3 is plugged into my Asus RT-AX88U Pro , Just a little bit on the Asus : Rock solid piece of kit with great WIFI coverage and a good amount of gaming tweaks within the OS including various different types of QOS , on average we have around 22 wired and wireless devices connected to the Asus no issues ever . Only the Xbox is a wired connection to the R3 , I have flip flopped from both routers over the last few months and always go back to the R3 from a connection perspective it just feels much better , for me it is best in class it does what it is supposed to do from a gaming / connection perspective . HOWEVER - I had some time over the Xmas break off work and decided to plug the R3 directly into my ONT , so all devices connected to the R3 as it is designed to do , BTW just to say I think the OS on the R3 is excellent from a visual perspective and provides so much information and options to fine tune , much better than the Asus in my opinion , the following is what I experienced over a full week : Daily drops in WIFI or internet connection longest period of connection 1.5 days before I re boot WIFI would not reach as far as my Asus , ring door bell and Hive would not function correctly Family complaints Gaming was even better Where I am going with this ? Is this a hardware or software problem ? , I have tried to live solely on the Netduma router previously but it never delivers on a stable connection as my default network router when everything is connected to it . If it is hardware issue hen I for one would be willing to pay more to have an Asus type performance with the Netduma OS . I know we have had the Netgear experiment but not sure that is still an option mine died a long time ago . In closing I love the Netduma OS , it is back now plugged into my Asus and in my opinion gives me the best gaming connection on the market without doubt . It is just not capable of being a default network router managing all devices . You could I suppose without being dis respectful call it a one trick pony ..... but hey it's one hell of a trick . .

Manual is way better, ping optomizer gets it wrong most of the time for me and you have to keep using it everyday incase your congestion changes. Manual I just set it to as close to 0 bufferbloat as possible and that's it done.

Fixed it, had nothing to do with the Netduma, can be closed. 🙂

Yep please can you ask for vlan routing also while applying QOS on each interface also please. Also not sure if people know but Vlans can help reduce max and 95th percentile latency , due to the fact that traffic is separated on different logical interfaces, each with its own ingress queues and burst absorption. This means Wi-Fi airtime chaos (retries, aggregation bursts, uploads from phones/TVs) is contained inside the Wi-Fi VLAN’s queues, instead of blocking or compressing ACKs for your wired gaming traffic. When the flows finally merge they’re already smoothed and paced.

We've not had anyone have this issue before and in those scenarios it's usually some unique aspect of the persons setup contributing to the issue, it's likely we'll get to the bottom of it with continued troubleshooting but if you'd like to return just email us and we can go from there.

ok I will try this tomorrow

None. I've left everything default. Just to follow up from last night, I have updated to the new firmware and factory reset the router. Currently everything seems great! Played 3 rounds of bf6 so far with no micro stutters and no dosconects. the wifi status light are actually functioning now. I will update if somthing changes

As your title indicates, it has been new year and Christmas holidays very recently so Netduma staff would have been having a break with their families, just like you did I guess? Most companies return back to work tomorrow so I imagine the staff will continue working on the update from tomorrow.

I tried what Capoeira82 suggested with the marking on the map and so far it works. It seems to be the solution.... Thanks.

Ok thank you. I'll follow up when I get an extender

As mentioned, people will be closer/further away to the server so that will impact it. Given you're in Scotland your closest server for any game is almost certainly in London. Then your location, for example if you're in a major city or the highlands would impact it as well. Also just the general routing your ISP takes to the game servers. Essentially, there are so many variables to consider that you can't really compare your network experience to anyone else - I'd even go so far as saying not to compare to your neighbour as even then the quality of the cables feeding your houses can impact it, the amount of devices being actively used at a time etc.

Hi Krush, I am playing on my own. Totally understand thanks again Pete

Oui c'est ça ! Vous jouez en équipe ? En fonction de la proximité du serveur la latence n'est pas la même entre les membres d'un groupe de jeu ! Le jeu utilise des serveurs dédiés, l'hôte n'est plus le relais comme avant sur du serveur P2P !

Okay thanks Fraser so all good with the Netduma R3 I was concerned trying to bring latency down for gaming I have made mistakes with Netduma settings .Playing between 26ms and 31ms latency but other gamers are saying they are 16ms so I believe they are closer to the server if that’s right .

Hi Krush and Fraser thank you both for replying . This is what I got earlier but can try Speedtest aswell.

Thanks

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one with this issue. I think I will purchase a good wifi extender and go that route. But ya all my other devices connect, they are just weak. But thanks for your help

That's the plan!

The Congestion Control aspect is codel & our own proprietary algorithm I believe

So what I dont understand.... When using Exit Lag, youve said your pings haven't changed but when using Exit Lag you now also get lag spikes for 2 - 5 seconds (that is crazy long!). So tell me, what benefit is Exit Lag giving you as from what youve said already, it's giving you MORE issues?

No worries, do keep us updated, would be interested to hear what they find.

THIS ARE JUST SETTINGS OUTSIDE OF THEIR GAME CONFIGS. THIS IS MORE TOWARDS THE R3 AND YOUR PC BACKGROUND PROCESES! you will still need to adjust your ingame settings according to your own specs. ect ect ect. this are the ADSOLUTE BEST settings for your bullets to kill as FAST as possible! 1. heres a pic of my fiber without the R3 2. Heres a pic of my speed with the R3 and all the settings i dissable inside the R3 to eliminte latency inside my router. turn these settings off at your own risk. i did and havent usse it in a month w out any issues. 3. run some bufferbloat test until you find your sweat spot 4. nornal speed test web is down for me idk y, but you need to lower your jitter as much as you can even when you do a simple speed test. 5. look at your task manager and if you have more proceses than what I have, It might be the reason why your jitter is always HIGH! or your game feels laggy and dogpoopy. 6. if you need help lowering your proceses without damaging your pc. check this link. it will take you to this guy who is a profesional. he worked with people like clix, bugha, and more pros. watch the video and follow the instructions. MAKE SURE you create a restore point right before your start or do anything. the only thing im experiencing is once i did mine. i cant no longer play music audio without having to RE-install my media player again. i dont mind that. so i dont care. i use my other pc for that. i can still do everything tho, everything works normal. this is the channel. 7. this is my congestion control settings 8. my games feels amazing no more shoot first and die first. anything outside of my control like servers lag lol well yall know how that goes.

Which site u did this ?

Okay good to hear, thanks for the update, I'll pass it on to the team to investigate

The whole purpose of the router is to allow you to get the best connection possible and give you the freedom to have more choice in the servers you play on. We've never advertised it as something to get you easier games. You're referring to HybridVPN which is in settings, as normal you'll need a VPN subscription from a 3rd party VPN provider that supports OpenVPN or Wireguard configuration files to use it.

Added, let us know how you get on https://forum.netduma.com/forum/151-netduma-r3-early-access/

Can I have access also please? Thanks! Edit: Nevermind, I wasn't logged in so couldn't see the early access section. I'm already added!

Ok understood, that makes sense. I will get that added. Thank you for your help

Good and bad hit registration in game doesn't usually correlate to a ping difference - When it's REALLY bad is when I start to see weird spikes, but only in game. I'm usually around 18-20 ms to Ashburn or Norfolk according to the router, and in game my ping will generally match up. I'm leaning towards combination of ISP and game server issues. I've done everything on my end to optimize, but I have no control over the rest of the path. Funny enough, I just chucked all the prioritization and congestion settings out the window and connected to wifi instead of ethernet - so no steady ping, no geo filter, no "gaming" prioritization, and sliders at 100% - and I still see a 20 ms ping and while hit reg and all that is still pretty bad, *I seem to take less damage*. So all the optimization is doing is giving the server better communication that I'm dead, it seems like lol! Next I'll hotspot from my phone and see how much help the game server gives me.

Okay so it is accessing, it's nothing to do with your certificates. Reboot the router, close the interface, wait 4 minutes then attempt access. You can also try accessing from routerlogin.net without the /adv_index.htm on the end. Good suggestion, I'll add that now.

Hello, I have found a few suggestions mentioning Reboot Scheduling before and that this would be discussed in several meetings. This was about years ago, is there any word or update if this is coming to Netduma in a firmware update soon? I can restart it myself every few days. But it would be more convenient to have it reboot on it's own for select days of the week during the hours the internet is not being used.

The R3 does it's job but it can't magically make your bullets register how they should, that's up to the game and your opponents - the matchmaking doesn't prioritise the connection of your opponents, so when you get connected to laggy people from across the country most of the time, you're going to get poor hit registration no matter what router you're using. I sit single digit pings but get penalised heavily, the game just feels delayed when there's people with crap connections in the match. If everyone's under 20ms (rare) it feels amazing. They've tried to make the game playable for everyone no matter your ping but it's not perfect, there's a reason why people geo filter to servers further away to increase their ping, or why some Japanese/Chinese connect to the Australian servers on purpose. MWIII has given me the worst experience i've had in cod in a long time. My KD is around 2.8 now but I was probably negative the first 2 months from how awful it ran. That's the lowest i've had since like OG MW3 and I'm surprise it's even gotten there with how bad it runs. The only router that has made this game remotely playable is the R2 or R3 - no other router has given me playable matches until recently, I decided to switch to my old Asus router I was running as an AP to router mode and it has been giving me some smooth hit rego. It's running Merlin firmware, I have no fancy settings, just set my console to priority and using Adaptive QoS with my full bandwidth set up. I have found matches run bad if I throttle bandwidth low, unlike some of the older cods. Some people that I occasionally play with have no issues whatsoever playing via WiFi and they're sitting on 30-70ms ping due to their location. When I vs them for fun in public lobbies, they have the type of connection where you're dead before you can ADS.. they are just synced to the server much earlier than you and have the lag comp on their side. I've tried bumping up my ping but it doesn't give the same experience as having a high ping by default. Maybe it's related to the routing.

I can't find the cold war servers anymore you removed them i only find warzone mw2 mw2 is dead put the cold war servers back

It's available on the latest firmware, please update to that and you'll be able to do this.