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You just admitted it lag spikes when using it though??

I appreciate the info and it helped a lot! Happy to be part of the Duma gang again.

Sorry to hear that! We don't give out any ETAs but hopefully not much longer for one

Hello bro thanks for your reply. So I'm confused, what should we be doing? Turn on Geo filter and set my location to which country? I live in the UK so I just want to understand. Thank you bro!

Can't believe it's been 11 years since I joined the forum , during that time I have had the R1 / R2 XR500 with R2 OS and now the R3. Today my R3 is plugged into my Asus RT-AX88U Pro , Just a little bit on the Asus : Rock solid piece of kit with great WIFI coverage and a good amount of gaming tweaks within the OS including various different types of QOS , on average we have around 22 wired and wireless devices connected to the Asus no issues ever . Only the Xbox is a wired connection to the R3 , I have flip flopped from both routers over the last few months and always go back to the R3 from a connection perspective it just feels much better , for me it is best in class it does what it is supposed to do from a gaming / connection perspective . HOWEVER - I had some time over the Xmas break off work and decided to plug the R3 directly into my ONT , so all devices connected to the R3 as it is designed to do , BTW just to say I think the OS on the R3 is excellent from a visual perspective and provides so much information and options to fine tune , much better than the Asus in my opinion , the following is what I experienced over a full week : Daily drops in WIFI or internet connection longest period of connection 1.5 days before I re boot WIFI would not reach as far as my Asus , ring door bell and Hive would not function correctly Family complaints Gaming was even better Where I am going with this ? Is this a hardware or software problem ? , I have tried to live solely on the Netduma router previously but it never delivers on a stable connection as my default network router when everything is connected to it . If it is hardware issue hen I for one would be willing to pay more to have an Asus type performance with the Netduma OS . I know we have had the Netgear experiment but not sure that is still an option mine died a long time ago . In closing I love the Netduma OS , it is back now plugged into my Asus and in my opinion gives me the best gaming connection on the market without doubt . It is just not capable of being a default network router managing all devices . You could I suppose without being dis respectful call it a one trick pony ..... but hey it's one hell of a trick . .

Thanks Fraser

Okay that's good then, the router isn't limiting you, it's just the speed test provider the router uses isn't always the most accurate so you can ignore that

Ya I've addressed all of this. Thanks though

steady ping has been an absolute game changer for me when the server gets destroyed to lag and etc. try it out. I kept mine on default value

I think there is some improvement but may not get you all the way, I've added you so you can check

You're right. My bad. I just thought that the XR500 bricking issue was kind of a known thing. At any rate, thank you for your support over the years. I've read a lot of stuff you've written here and there, all of it is top notch stuff.

To get an Open NAT you need an open route to the internet, with the setup you're going to use you would need to put it in the DMZ to do that. It's perfectly fine to do so, the R3 has its own firewall so it is protected

I tried everything for this and I actually found the work-around by accident. I'm on a PS5. On the Geo-Filter tab, on the far right side, click on the tab that is for the console that you're using. Disable filtering-enabled. As soon as the game starts loading you in, you can re-enable it. Most times you are able to close the game and start it back up with no problems but I found that I had to do this at least once a day. I also found out how to stop this from happening. Before you re-enable the filtering tab, look at your map fully zoomed out and locate the Dublin servers which should be near the top in the middle of the map for those who aren't refreshed in their world map knowledge. Click on the Dublin server and in the upper right hand corner, click on the check-mark to allow it. I personally had to click on and allow 2 different Dublin servers because after I allowed one, it did it again and I looked and found there to be a second one, which I allowed as well but after that I have never had that error message pop up again.

I’m going to push back on this a bit, because the conclusion being drawn here doesn’t line up with how online games or networks actually work. I’m an Enterprise Lead Network Engineer with over a decade of experience designing and operating large-scale, latency-sensitive networks (factories, global WANs, DCs, SDN, etc.). I am also a professional competitive CS2 and FortNite player. From a technical standpoint, a consumer router cannot “manipulate lag compensation or hit detection” in the way you’re describing. How hit registration actually works: In modern multiplayer shooters (including CoD), hit detection is authoritative on the game server, not the client and certainly not your router. The general flow looks like this: Your client sends input events (movement, aim, fire timestamp) The server rewinds game state using lag compensation The server determines whether a hit occurred The result is sent back to all clients Your router never sees: Player hitboxes Server reconciliation logic Lag compensation algorithms Damage calculation It only sees encrypted UDP packets with timestamps. (along with a few checksums that are used on the backend to determine whether there has been any manipulation to the data stream, but that is entirely dependent upon game and AC used). What lag compensation really is Lag compensation exists to normalize different client latencies, not to “reward” or “punish” certain players. If two players fire at nearly the same time, the server rewinds state to each client’s perceived moment and resolves the outcome. This can feel unfair at times, but that’s a function of: Tick rate Interpolation / extrapolation Server load Packet arrival variance Player movement prediction Not the brand of router. What routers can affect (and what they can’t) At Layers 1–5, almost every modern router you listed (OpenWRT, MikroTik, pfSense, Ubiquiti, Asus, NetDuma) is doing the same fundamental job: NAT Stateful firewall Packet forwarding Optional QoS / shaping This is the ONLY thing that you might be able to argue NetDuma does 'better' than others. However, that is merely if they do it 'out of the box' vs. others that may not considering it's all adherent to RFCs and standardizations, dscp values, etc. If bufferbloat is already controlled (which you explicitly said it was), then: Latency is stable Jitter is minimized Packet loss is negligible At that point, there is no mechanism for a router to selectively improve hit registration. It cannot reorder server logic, alter rewind windows, or bias combat resolution. If it could, competitive esports would ban consumer routers overnight. Why it feels different Perceived improvements usually come from: Different matchmaking servers or routes Temporary changes in server load Variance in opponents’ latency Session-to-session network conditions Confirmation bias (especially after hardware changes) Humans are very good at pattern-matching and very bad at controlled experiments, especially when adrenaline and competition are involved. The key point If a router could truly “manipulate lag comp”: It would be detectable by the game developer It would be considered cheating It would be patched or blocked immediately No consumer router has access to the data or control plane required to do that. Final thought If you’re enjoying the R3, that’s totally fine. Stable latency and good QoS do matter. But attributing gunfight outcomes to router-level manipulation of hit detection isn’t technically accurate. The network delivers packets. The server decides who lives and who dies. Everything else is perception.

Good to hear! DNS won't make a difference for gaming so unnecessary to change it. There isn't a backup settings function currently but it has been requested so may come in future.

Good to hear, don't forget the Early Access firmware as well

Just updated and it seems like the issue disappeared, did not need to reset factory settings either. Interface loads way faster too. Thanks for the access.

That fixed it. Thanks, Fraser.

Please upgrade to the Early Access version and see if it still occurs - once it's fully upgraded factory reset then monitor it

As above I wouldn't rely on that, try this instead https://support.netduma.com/frequently-asked-questions/legacyfaqs/test-your-ping/

No worries at all, do keep us updated and any questions/issues just ask!

Those programs/services are essentially VPNs which means you're creating an encrypted tunnel from your device to their servers so the router cannot reliably determine where you're connecting to in order to filter. Your experience may vary but I would generally say it's not going to work as well. Steady Ping relies on the Geo-Filter being able to see the game host/server and be able to ping it (which isn't always possible anyway due to game servers not responding to pings) so if you're not seeing a server on the map when using both together and you're not showing a ping then that aspect won't work. Ping Optimizer is unaffected by using those services. On the Congestion Control part make sure to disable Speed Test Bypass, otherwise the speed test will read like you have full speeds and your percentage changes won't properly be affected, then try again. Personally I think people hyper focus on the results too much as with Congestion Control active your connection cannot be saturated and so bufferbloat can't occur. However, you should be able to improve upon the results the site shows you by disabling bypass and fine tuning the percentages further - we usually suggest starting at 70%.

Yes that’s correct no mate no issues with geo filter after factory reset.

I'm sure it's easily resolvable, let us know if you want to continue

Manual is way better, ping optomizer gets it wrong most of the time for me and you have to keep using it everyday incase your congestion changes. Manual I just set it to as close to 0 bufferbloat as possible and that's it done.

You are the best! Thank you!

Yep please can you ask for vlan routing also while applying QOS on each interface also please. Also not sure if people know but Vlans can help reduce max and 95th percentile latency , due to the fact that traffic is separated on different logical interfaces, each with its own ingress queues and burst absorption. This means Wi-Fi airtime chaos (retries, aggregation bursts, uploads from phones/TVs) is contained inside the Wi-Fi VLAN’s queues, instead of blocking or compressing ACKs for your wired gaming traffic. When the flows finally merge they’re already smoothed and paced.

I’m using a Huawei CPE Pro 5 as my 5G modem. I’ve tested multiple bands and currently have the modem band-locked to the combination that gives me the best SINR and RSRQ, rather than chasing peak throughput. My goal was stability and lower jitter. My jitter has dropped to around 3–4 ms, compared to ~5 ms previously, without any changes on the R3 side. I’m assuming this improvement is related to tower load, scheduling, or band conditions rather than router configuration.

We've not had anyone have this issue before and in those scenarios it's usually some unique aspect of the persons setup contributing to the issue, it's likely we'll get to the bottom of it with continued troubleshooting but if you'd like to return just email us and we can go from there.

ok I will try this tomorrow

Blocking devices using bandwidth when you're playing etc is an extreme measure, as long as you have Congestion Control setup and SmartBOOST set to prioritize you then they won't be causing any issues

As above the team will all be back tomorrow to continue work on it, as always we'll make a post with the firmware when its ready

I tried what Capoeira82 suggested with the marking on the map and so far it works. It seems to be the solution.... Thanks.

As mentioned, people will be closer/further away to the server so that will impact it. Given you're in Scotland your closest server for any game is almost certainly in London. Then your location, for example if you're in a major city or the highlands would impact it as well. Also just the general routing your ISP takes to the game servers. Essentially, there are so many variables to consider that you can't really compare your network experience to anyone else - I'd even go so far as saying not to compare to your neighbour as even then the quality of the cables feeding your houses can impact it, the amount of devices being actively used at a time etc.

Hi Krush, I am playing on my own. Totally understand thanks again Pete

Okay thanks Fraser so all good with the Netduma R3 I was concerned trying to bring latency down for gaming I have made mistakes with Netduma settings .Playing between 26ms and 31ms latency but other gamers are saying they are 16ms so I believe they are closer to the server if that’s right .

Thanks

Salut ! Tes tests de vitesse sont faits via l'outils Netduma ou derrière un PC en filaire via ookla ? L'outils Netduma utilise parfois des serveurs de test de vitesse non optimisé, le mieux est de rentrer manuellement les vitesses max données par ton FAI !

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one with this issue. I think I will purchase a good wifi extender and go that route. But ya all my other devices connect, they are just weak. But thanks for your help

That's the plan!

So what I dont understand.... When using Exit Lag, youve said your pings haven't changed but when using Exit Lag you now also get lag spikes for 2 - 5 seconds (that is crazy long!). So tell me, what benefit is Exit Lag giving you as from what youve said already, it's giving you MORE issues?

In Battlefield 6, only the UK, Ireland and Germany servers are currently available for Europe, which is clearly visible when you start the game without a geo filter.

Great to hear and thanks for the ID!

perfect thanks

It's tied to the cookies in your browser so if you have the browser set to clear cache/cookies every time you close the browser or tab for example then it will show you the tour each time. Ensure cache/cookies persist for the interface and once completed shouldn't show again

Do this: Quit the application/game/client completely - including the game client from the System Tray - important! Remove device from the Geo-Filter If you're on PC then give it the PlayStation Device Type in the Device Manager Resync from the Geo-Filter Map menu Re-add the device to the Geo-Filter Set up the Geo-Filter how you like Wait 2 minutes Boot up application/game/client To force servers you need to do the following: It's essential the Geo-Filter is enabled before the game client (e.g. Steam etc) if on PC or platform (e.g. Xbox, PlayStation) or the game have been launched. If you change Geo-Filter settings when you're on the game then you will need to restart the game for those changes to take effect, otherwise it will use the previous Geo-Filter settings and appear not to be working. For settings ensure Ping Assist and Geo-Latency are disabled in the Geo-Filter menu that can be found by clicking ⋮ in the top right hand corner of the page and go to Settings. Strict Mode should also be enabled, it is enabled by default so if you haven't disabled it you can ignore it. If you have disabled it or want to check it can be found in the same Settings menu as above or in Settings > Troubleshooting > Advanced > Developer Options depending on your firmware version. Fast Search should also be disabled which it is by default so can be ignored if you haven't changed it, otherwise this can be found in the same place.

THIS ARE JUST SETTINGS OUTSIDE OF THEIR GAME CONFIGS. THIS IS MORE TOWARDS THE R3 AND YOUR PC BACKGROUND PROCESES! you will still need to adjust your ingame settings according to your own specs. ect ect ect. this are the ADSOLUTE BEST settings for your bullets to kill as FAST as possible! 1. heres a pic of my fiber without the R3 2. Heres a pic of my speed with the R3 and all the settings i dissable inside the R3 to eliminte latency inside my router. turn these settings off at your own risk. i did and havent usse it in a month w out any issues. 3. run some bufferbloat test until you find your sweat spot 4. nornal speed test web is down for me idk y, but you need to lower your jitter as much as you can even when you do a simple speed test. 5. look at your task manager and if you have more proceses than what I have, It might be the reason why your jitter is always HIGH! or your game feels laggy and dogpoopy. 6. if you need help lowering your proceses without damaging your pc. check this link. it will take you to this guy who is a profesional. he worked with people like clix, bugha, and more pros. watch the video and follow the instructions. MAKE SURE you create a restore point right before your start or do anything. the only thing im experiencing is once i did mine. i cant no longer play music audio without having to RE-install my media player again. i dont mind that. so i dont care. i use my other pc for that. i can still do everything tho, everything works normal. this is the channel. 7. this is my congestion control settings 8. my games feels amazing no more shoot first and die first. anything outside of my control like servers lag lol well yall know how that goes.

Hello, I have found a few suggestions mentioning Reboot Scheduling before and that this would be discussed in several meetings. This was about years ago, is there any word or update if this is coming to Netduma in a firmware update soon? I can restart it myself every few days. But it would be more convenient to have it reboot on it's own for select days of the week during the hours the internet is not being used.

The R3 does it's job but it can't magically make your bullets register how they should, that's up to the game and your opponents - the matchmaking doesn't prioritise the connection of your opponents, so when you get connected to laggy people from across the country most of the time, you're going to get poor hit registration no matter what router you're using. I sit single digit pings but get penalised heavily, the game just feels delayed when there's people with crap connections in the match. If everyone's under 20ms (rare) it feels amazing. They've tried to make the game playable for everyone no matter your ping but it's not perfect, there's a reason why people geo filter to servers further away to increase their ping, or why some Japanese/Chinese connect to the Australian servers on purpose. MWIII has given me the worst experience i've had in cod in a long time. My KD is around 2.8 now but I was probably negative the first 2 months from how awful it ran. That's the lowest i've had since like OG MW3 and I'm surprise it's even gotten there with how bad it runs. The only router that has made this game remotely playable is the R2 or R3 - no other router has given me playable matches until recently, I decided to switch to my old Asus router I was running as an AP to router mode and it has been giving me some smooth hit rego. It's running Merlin firmware, I have no fancy settings, just set my console to priority and using Adaptive QoS with my full bandwidth set up. I have found matches run bad if I throttle bandwidth low, unlike some of the older cods. Some people that I occasionally play with have no issues whatsoever playing via WiFi and they're sitting on 30-70ms ping due to their location. When I vs them for fun in public lobbies, they have the type of connection where you're dead before you can ADS.. they are just synced to the server much earlier than you and have the lag comp on their side. I've tried bumping up my ping but it doesn't give the same experience as having a high ping by default. Maybe it's related to the routing.

It's available on the latest firmware, please update to that and you'll be able to do this.