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You just admitted it lag spikes when using it though??

Sorry to hear that! We don't give out any ETAs but hopefully not much longer for one

Hello bro thanks for your reply. So I'm confused, what should we be doing? Turn on Geo filter and set my location to which country? I live in the UK so I just want to understand. Thank you bro!

Thanks Fraser

Okay that's good then, the router isn't limiting you, it's just the speed test provider the router uses isn't always the most accurate so you can ignore that

Ya I've addressed all of this. Thanks though

steady ping has been an absolute game changer for me when the server gets destroyed to lag and etc. try it out. I kept mine on default value

It's the Windows Task Manager

Obrigado.

Either way, it's up to you, there won't be any conflicts

This isn’t a support post, this is just a post from a hardcore call of duty ranked player giving my honest review of the router. Because ive been seeing soooo much negativity about this router. Ive been playing ranked play on call of duty modern warfare 3 on pc for about 8 hours a day. I can honestly say the netduma r3 melts my enemies. I’ve tried multiple different routers so I know how each router feels when you’re playing competitively when every millisecond counts! I’ve tried Openwrt, Ubiquiti, Arista, Mikrotik, Pfsense and Asus ROG routers. They all do very good A+ 0ms bufferbloat with QOS. BUT the problem with those routers is the hit detection / lag comp. Where you clearly see the enemy and shoot them first and you die first. It’s like you shoot nerf bullets and they just INSTA DELETE you! I don’t know how netduma does it but this router is manipulating the lag comp / hit detection to give you a advantage. I mean theres still some moments when I’m like how did I lose that gunfight but it’s ALOT less compared to those other routers. The latest firmware still has some bugs that I’m sure is going to be fixed.. but the firmware is more than playable for me Anyone else feels this way or its only me?

I’m going to push back on this a bit, because the conclusion being drawn here doesn’t line up with how online games or networks actually work. I’m an Enterprise Lead Network Engineer with over a decade of experience designing and operating large-scale, latency-sensitive networks (factories, global WANs, DCs, SDN, etc.). I am also a professional competitive CS2 and FortNite player. From a technical standpoint, a consumer router cannot “manipulate lag compensation or hit detection” in the way you’re describing. How hit registration actually works: In modern multiplayer shooters (including CoD), hit detection is authoritative on the game server, not the client and certainly not your router. The general flow looks like this: Your client sends input events (movement, aim, fire timestamp) The server rewinds game state using lag compensation The server determines whether a hit occurred The result is sent back to all clients Your router never sees: Player hitboxes Server reconciliation logic Lag compensation algorithms Damage calculation It only sees encrypted UDP packets with timestamps. (along with a few checksums that are used on the backend to determine whether there has been any manipulation to the data stream, but that is entirely dependent upon game and AC used). What lag compensation really is Lag compensation exists to normalize different client latencies, not to “reward” or “punish” certain players. If two players fire at nearly the same time, the server rewinds state to each client’s perceived moment and resolves the outcome. This can feel unfair at times, but that’s a function of: Tick rate Interpolation / extrapolation Server load Packet arrival variance Player movement prediction Not the brand of router. What routers can affect (and what they can’t) At Layers 1–5, almost every modern router you listed (OpenWRT, MikroTik, pfSense, Ubiquiti, Asus, NetDuma) is doing the same fundamental job: NAT Stateful firewall Packet forwarding Optional QoS / shaping This is the ONLY thing that you might be able to argue NetDuma does 'better' than others. However, that is merely if they do it 'out of the box' vs. others that may not considering it's all adherent to RFCs and standardizations, dscp values, etc. If bufferbloat is already controlled (which you explicitly said it was), then: Latency is stable Jitter is minimized Packet loss is negligible At that point, there is no mechanism for a router to selectively improve hit registration. It cannot reorder server logic, alter rewind windows, or bias combat resolution. If it could, competitive esports would ban consumer routers overnight. Why it feels different Perceived improvements usually come from: Different matchmaking servers or routes Temporary changes in server load Variance in opponents’ latency Session-to-session network conditions Confirmation bias (especially after hardware changes) Humans are very good at pattern-matching and very bad at controlled experiments, especially when adrenaline and competition are involved. The key point If a router could truly “manipulate lag comp”: It would be detectable by the game developer It would be considered cheating It would be patched or blocked immediately No consumer router has access to the data or control plane required to do that. Final thought If you’re enjoying the R3, that’s totally fine. Stable latency and good QoS do matter. But attributing gunfight outcomes to router-level manipulation of hit detection isn’t technically accurate. The network delivers packets. The server decides who lives and who dies. Everything else is perception.

There won't be no. It'll just be security fixes then, it's unlikely it's based on 3.3, I think it probably reached end of service before they did it.

Good to hear, don't forget the Early Access firmware as well

Just updated and it seems like the issue disappeared, did not need to reset factory settings either. Interface loads way faster too. Thanks for the access.

That fixed it. Thanks, Fraser.

Please upgrade to the Early Access version and see if it still occurs - once it's fully upgraded factory reset then monitor it

As above I wouldn't rely on that, try this instead https://support.netduma.com/frequently-asked-questions/legacyfaqs/test-your-ping/

Ça donne quoi, si tu fais un ping vers 8.8.8.8 sur ton PC ?

@purpleandgold33You shouldn't rely on it since it's inaccurate and requires an update. I believe they are working on a fix to improve its accuracy. In the meantime, adjust your sqm manually.

No worries at all, do keep us updated and any questions/issues just ask!

Those programs/services are essentially VPNs which means you're creating an encrypted tunnel from your device to their servers so the router cannot reliably determine where you're connecting to in order to filter. Your experience may vary but I would generally say it's not going to work as well. Steady Ping relies on the Geo-Filter being able to see the game host/server and be able to ping it (which isn't always possible anyway due to game servers not responding to pings) so if you're not seeing a server on the map when using both together and you're not showing a ping then that aspect won't work. Ping Optimizer is unaffected by using those services. On the Congestion Control part make sure to disable Speed Test Bypass, otherwise the speed test will read like you have full speeds and your percentage changes won't properly be affected, then try again. Personally I think people hyper focus on the results too much as with Congestion Control active your connection cannot be saturated and so bufferbloat can't occur. However, you should be able to improve upon the results the site shows you by disabling bypass and fine tuning the percentages further - we usually suggest starting at 70%.

Yes that’s correct no mate no issues with geo filter after factory reset.

To answer your questions: It's a NTGR feature so they don't consult with us when removing one of their own features but I expect so. Unlikely, they probably removed it intentionally. Check the DumaOS version on the System Information page if it starts with 3.3 then yes, if not no. Yes if you really want that functionality

Thank you i appreciate it 🙏

Can't believe it's been 11 years since I joined the forum , during that time I have had the R1 / R2 XR500 with R2 OS and now the R3. Today my R3 is plugged into my Asus RT-AX88U Pro , Just a little bit on the Asus : Rock solid piece of kit with great WIFI coverage and a good amount of gaming tweaks within the OS including various different types of QOS , on average we have around 22 wired and wireless devices connected to the Asus no issues ever . Only the Xbox is a wired connection to the R3 , I have flip flopped from both routers over the last few months and always go back to the R3 from a connection perspective it just feels much better , for me it is best in class it does what it is supposed to do from a gaming / connection perspective . HOWEVER - I had some time over the Xmas break off work and decided to plug the R3 directly into my ONT , so all devices connected to the R3 as it is designed to do , BTW just to say I think the OS on the R3 is excellent from a visual perspective and provides so much information and options to fine tune , much better than the Asus in my opinion , the following is what I experienced over a full week : Daily drops in WIFI or internet connection longest period of connection 1.5 days before I re boot WIFI would not reach as far as my Asus , ring door bell and Hive would not function correctly Family complaints Gaming was even better Where I am going with this ? Is this a hardware or software problem ? , I have tried to live solely on the Netduma router previously but it never delivers on a stable connection as my default network router when everything is connected to it . If it is hardware issue hen I for one would be willing to pay more to have an Asus type performance with the Netduma OS . I know we have had the Netgear experiment but not sure that is still an option mine died a long time ago . In closing I love the Netduma OS , it is back now plugged into my Asus and in my opinion gives me the best gaming connection on the market without doubt . It is just not capable of being a default network router managing all devices . You could I suppose without being dis respectful call it a one trick pony ..... but hey it's one hell of a trick . .

Added you both

I'm sure it's easily resolvable, let us know if you want to continue

Manual is way better, ping optomizer gets it wrong most of the time for me and you have to keep using it everyday incase your congestion changes. Manual I just set it to as close to 0 bufferbloat as possible and that's it done.

Fixed it, had nothing to do with the Netduma, can be closed. 🙂

You are the best! Thank you!

Yep please can you ask for vlan routing also while applying QOS on each interface also please. Also not sure if people know but Vlans can help reduce max and 95th percentile latency , due to the fact that traffic is separated on different logical interfaces, each with its own ingress queues and burst absorption. This means Wi-Fi airtime chaos (retries, aggregation bursts, uploads from phones/TVs) is contained inside the Wi-Fi VLAN’s queues, instead of blocking or compressing ACKs for your wired gaming traffic. When the flows finally merge they’re already smoothed and paced.

It's the WAN side yeah, so you're wanting it on the LAN side then? I can make the request to the team

I’m using a Huawei CPE Pro 5 as my 5G modem. I’ve tested multiple bands and currently have the modem band-locked to the combination that gives me the best SINR and RSRQ, rather than chasing peak throughput. My goal was stability and lower jitter. My jitter has dropped to around 3–4 ms, compared to ~5 ms previously, without any changes on the R3 side. I’m assuming this improvement is related to tower load, scheduling, or band conditions rather than router configuration.

We've not had anyone have this issue before and in those scenarios it's usually some unique aspect of the persons setup contributing to the issue, it's likely we'll get to the bottom of it with continued troubleshooting but if you'd like to return just email us and we can go from there.

ok I will try this tomorrow

None. I've left everything default. Just to follow up from last night, I have updated to the new firmware and factory reset the router. Currently everything seems great! Played 3 rounds of bf6 so far with no micro stutters and no dosconects. the wifi status light are actually functioning now. I will update if somthing changes

Blocking devices using bandwidth when you're playing etc is an extreme measure, as long as you have Congestion Control setup and SmartBOOST set to prioritize you then they won't be causing any issues

I tried what Capoeira82 suggested with the marking on the map and so far it works. It seems to be the solution.... Thanks.

Ok thank you. I'll follow up when I get an extender

Thanks

Salut ! Tes tests de vitesse sont faits via l'outils Netduma ou derrière un PC en filaire via ookla ? L'outils Netduma utilise parfois des serveurs de test de vitesse non optimisé, le mieux est de rentrer manuellement les vitesses max données par ton FAI !

The Congestion Control aspect is codel & our own proprietary algorithm I believe

We can't do anything about that necessarily, if they don't want to connect you to those other servers for whatever reason they won't. Could be they're only used in times of heavy load, when other servers are down etc

It's tied to the cookies in your browser so if you have the browser set to clear cache/cookies every time you close the browser or tab for example then it will show you the tour each time. Ensure cache/cookies persist for the interface and once completed shouldn't show again

THIS ARE JUST SETTINGS OUTSIDE OF THEIR GAME CONFIGS. THIS IS MORE TOWARDS THE R3 AND YOUR PC BACKGROUND PROCESES! you will still need to adjust your ingame settings according to your own specs. ect ect ect. this are the ADSOLUTE BEST settings for your bullets to kill as FAST as possible! 1. heres a pic of my fiber without the R3 2. Heres a pic of my speed with the R3 and all the settings i dissable inside the R3 to eliminte latency inside my router. turn these settings off at your own risk. i did and havent usse it in a month w out any issues. 3. run some bufferbloat test until you find your sweat spot 4. nornal speed test web is down for me idk y, but you need to lower your jitter as much as you can even when you do a simple speed test. 5. look at your task manager and if you have more proceses than what I have, It might be the reason why your jitter is always HIGH! or your game feels laggy and dogpoopy. 6. if you need help lowering your proceses without damaging your pc. check this link. it will take you to this guy who is a profesional. he worked with people like clix, bugha, and more pros. watch the video and follow the instructions. MAKE SURE you create a restore point right before your start or do anything. the only thing im experiencing is once i did mine. i cant no longer play music audio without having to RE-install my media player again. i dont mind that. so i dont care. i use my other pc for that. i can still do everything tho, everything works normal. this is the channel. 7. this is my congestion control settings 8. my games feels amazing no more shoot first and die first. anything outside of my control like servers lag lol well yall know how that goes.

Which site u did this ?

Okay good to hear, thanks for the update, I'll pass it on to the team to investigate

Hello, I have found a few suggestions mentioning Reboot Scheduling before and that this would be discussed in several meetings. This was about years ago, is there any word or update if this is coming to Netduma in a firmware update soon? I can restart it myself every few days. But it would be more convenient to have it reboot on it's own for select days of the week during the hours the internet is not being used.

It's available on the latest firmware, please update to that and you'll be able to do this.