e38BimmerFN Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 The are known issues with the TM1602 modem. It's intel based: http://badmodems.com/Forum/app.php/badmodems http://www.badmodems.com/ Any broadcom based modems do not have these problems like Intel modems have: http://badmodems.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65000 I'm using a Motorola MB7420 and Arris 6183 with a 200/10 ISP service with an R1 and a XR500 routers. Zero issues. Always contact your ISP to see what they officially support first. The TC 7610 is a 8x4 modem. Is capable of a bit over 300Mb however some ISP like to use more channels for higher speeds. So with mine using 200/10, my modems are 24x8 channel modems. My ISP recommends using the 24x8 modems over 8x4 for faster or higher speed tiers. All depends on what ISP implement and required for there systems to work at speeds on there networks. Review what your ISP requires for there networks. If you keep the 200 speed tier, get in to a 24x8 channel modem. It's up to you want to down grade. Speed depends on your needs. UP Link is more important than download. currently have spectrum internet (300+ mbps down /20+mbps up) using a ARRIS TM1602 been using it for a few years now and always notice a bit of lag and ping spikes.. after some research and comparing to your "good" list with my ISP my only options seem to be the TC7610 or the TC7610E .. what is the difference between the two?and would It be in my best interest to downgrade my service to the 100mbps package if im taking this route? crawlgsx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 awesome .. for $37 im going to give it a go.. thank you so much! No problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted March 1, 2018 Administrators Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hi all, I have removed the last page or so of posts. We want to keep it civil here. I've also added [Opinions] to the topic title. Everyone looking for a new modem should also conduct their own research when making a decision. You should be certain of your decision before making a financial comittment. Also added this line to the original post. Alex49H, crawlgsx and Zippy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawlgsx Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 The are known issues with the TM1602 modem. It's intel based: http://badmodems.com/Forum/app.php/badmodems http://www.badmodems.com/ Any broadcom based modems do not have these problems like Intel modems have. I'm using a Motorola MB7420 and Arris 6182 with a 200/10 ISP service with an R1 and a XR500 routers. Zero issues. Always contact your ISP to see what they officially support first. The TC 7610 is a 8x4 modem. Is capable of a bit over 300Mb however some ISP like to use more channels for higher speeds. So with mine using 200/10, my modems are 24x8 channel modems. My ISP recommends using the 24x8 modems over 8x4 for faster or higher speed tiers. All depends on what ISP implement and required for there systems to work at speeds on there networks. Review what your ISP requires for there networks. If you keep the 200 speed tier, get in to a 24x8 channel modem. It's up to you want to down grade. Speed depends on your needs. UP Link is more important than download. As others have mentioned Arris SB6183 is a great modem choice as well. No ping fluctuation, rock solid Broadcom chipset just like the TP-Link and many others. Can confirm here having the XR500 myself that it works flawlessly with the SB6183. Especially worth consideration if you re going to go over the 8x4 channel limitations. TP Link is a great choice if you currently have one of the INTEL Puma modems such as the SB6190 or you have an older modem / want to stop paying your ISP for their rental fee. If you already have a good modem such as the SB6183 do your homework before switching . e38BimmerFN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 As others have mentioned Arris SB6183 is a great modem choice as well. No ping fluctuation, rock solid Broadcom chipset just like the TP-Link and many others. Can confirm here having the XR500 myself that it works flawlessly with the SB6183. Especially worth consideration if you re going to go over the 8x4 channel limitations. TP Link is a great choice if you currently have one of the INTEL Puma modems such as the SB6190 or you have an older modem / want to stop paying your ISP for their rental fee. If you already have a good modem such as the SB6183 do your homework before switching . What ISP do you have? I have the SB6183 with comcast business internet and ping plotter results and actual experience in game are both bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawlgsx Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 What ISP do you have? I have the SB6183 with comcast business internet and ping plotter results and actual experience in game are both bad. Spectrum 100/10 home connection. No ping spikes here and no issues in games. (Xbox One X's) e38BimmerFN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex49H Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 No problem Hey MoD, how about the MB8600? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Thats not a Intel based modem. Would be recommended and will work with the R1 or XR500. Hey MoD, how about the MB8600? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Hey MoD, how about the MB8600? From my experience with 3.1 modems they were a bit wonky... so unless you absolutely need it, I wouldn't do it Alex49H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex49H Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 From my experience with 3.1 modems they were a bit wonky... so unless you absolutely need it, I wouldn't do it Wonky is right! LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glazeko Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Is the tp link tc7650 a good modem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopam-IT_1987 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 hello tp link archer C7 is good or not hi is on lede project , thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 There all good modems. Just avoid modems based on Intel chip sets for now. If you want to see a real list of bad modems not to use: http://badmodems.com/Forum/app.php/badmodems hello tp link archer C7 is good or not hi is on lede project , thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopam-IT_1987 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 There all good modems. Just avoid modems based on Intel chip sets for now. If you want to see a real list of bad modems not to use: http://badmodems.com/Forum/app.php/badmodems ok i'm buy bt home hub 5 with lede installed i'm receveid next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 ok i'm buy bt home hub 5 with lede installed i'm receveid next week Let us know how it goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsNCo Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I am getting this. Using Zhone 2426 modem/router combo provided by ISP.ISP does not allow a different modem to be used. ISP can control modem from their side and customers are not allowed to meddle much with its features.Thus why I asked them to place the modem in Bridged mode to the XR500 that has the same MAC address as my PC via MAC Clone. This is so that during troubleshooting, where they require my PC to be directly connected to the port instead of through the router, I will not have to fumble around telling them to update the MAC address so the Zhone will recognize my PC.Yup. My ISP is so controlling, imagine wanting to set a port forward. I have to call them and tell them it is for this LAN IP address and to this port and the process repeats every time. Extremely tedious!Also, it is always a good practice to set whatever is behind your router in Bridged mode to prevent the Modem/Router from doing its own processing of your packet which can cause buffer bloat whereas Bridged Mode will just let all packets through and leave the processing strictly to the XR500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Users with modem/router combos that can't bridge them can also use a feature known as DMZ and this will help with this double NAT condition when using modem/router combo units. Looks like your speeds are to spec and worth the tedious hassle of working with your ISP to get that. I'm jealous. I am getting this. Using Zhone 2426 modem/router combo provided by ISP.ISP does not allow a different modem to be used. ISP can control modem from their side and customers are not allowed to meddle much with its features.Thus why I asked them to place the modem in Bridged mode to the XR500 that has the same MAC address as my PC via MAC Clone. This is so that during troubleshooting, where they require my PC to be directly connected to the port instead of through the router, I will not have to fumble around telling them to update the MAC address so the Zhone will recognize my PC.Yup. My ISP is so controlling, imagine wanting to set a port forward. I have to call them and tell them it is for this LAN IP address and to this port and the process repeats every time. Extremely tedious!Also, it is always a good practice to set whatever is behind your router in Bridged mode to prevent the Modem/Router from doing its own processing of your packet which can cause buffer bloat whereas Bridged Mode will just let all packets through and leave the processing strictly to the XR500. AsNCo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II N3MES1S II Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Hey everyone I have been away busy working and testing routers but I wanted to mention that I have moved to a new location. Recently a couple nights ago my internet dropped for a long time and then in the morning when I went to check on what happend. I noticed that the modem was locked to 31 download channels instead of the normal 24 it would at multiple locations. Previous to this night the modem locked onto 24 download channels. Today I remembered the puma test and wanted to see what it looked like. My Arris SB6190 is still using version 9.1.93V and I did the test and it passed with flying clolors with zero red blocks. I have pictures to prove it and so I stand by what I had said in the past that this modem is perfectly fine with the netduma router. It really depends on your connection and area really. The version is the same I was using when I lived in another location with multiple red blocks in the test. TrayDay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordty84 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 NETGEAR N600 Router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossFitKila717 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 8:20 PM, e38BimmerFN said: The are known issues with the TM1602 modem. It's intel based: http://badmodems.com/Forum/app.php/badmodems http://www.badmodems.com/ Any broadcom based modems do not have these problems like Intel modems have: http://badmodems.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65000 I'm using a Motorola MB7420 and Arris 6183 with a 200/10 ISP service with an R1 and a XR500 routers. Zero issues. Always contact your ISP to see what they officially support first. The TC 7610 is a 8x4 modem. Is capable of a bit over 300Mb however some ISP like to use more channels for higher speeds. So with mine using 200/10, my modems are 24x8 channel modems. My ISP recommends using the 24x8 modems over 8x4 for faster or higher speed tiers. All depends on what ISP implement and required for there systems to work at speeds on there networks. Review what your ISP requires for there networks. If you keep the 200 speed tier, get in to a 24x8 channel modem. It's up to you want to down grade. Speed depends on your needs. UP Link is more important than download. I just moved to TX & have Spectrum 200/10. I’m using my TP Link TC7610 which I know is a great modem.....but.....with the speeds of 200/10, spectrum doesn’t recommend this one. They recommend the 7620. My question is, should I go with a different modem since my 7610 is only an 8x4 channel, to match the higher speeds of 200/10? If I run the test on the Duma & it doesn’t show high spikes, ping or packet loss, shouldn’t it be ok, even though it’s not recommended with these speeds? I may try the freebie modem they gave me just to compare....I know they don’t have a great track record, but since I have it & its the recommended modem, why not? What are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 7:34 AM, CrossFitKila717 said: I just moved to TX & have Spectrum 200/10. I’m using my TP Link TC7610 which I know is a great modem.....but.....with the speeds of 200/10, spectrum doesn’t recommend this one. They recommend the 7620. My question is, should I go with a different modem since my 7610 is only an 8x4 channel, to match the higher speeds of 200/10? If I run the test on the Duma & it doesn’t show high spikes, ping or packet loss, shouldn’t it be ok, even though it’s not recommended with these speeds? I may try the freebie modem they gave me just to compare....I know they don’t have a great track record, but since I have it & its the recommended modem, why not? What are your thoughts? Yes, you'll have better performances with 16x4 than with 8x4 channels. The 7620 specs: WAN throughput: 680 Mbps WAN throughput upstream: 143 Mbps 7610 specs: WAN throughput: 343 Mbps WAN throughput upstream: 143 Mbps Also as ISP upgrade and improve there services, 8x4 and 16x4 will become out dated and some ISP will mandate or require the use of better modems with 24 or 32 channel support. Keep this in mind. A good modem list can be reviewed here: https://badmodems.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5 Zippy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 8:34 AM, CrossFitKila717 said: I just moved to TX & have Spectrum 200/10. I’m using my TP Link TC7610 which I know is a great modem.....but.....with the speeds of 200/10, spectrum doesn’t recommend this one. They recommend the 7620. My question is, should I go with a different modem since my 7610 is only an 8x4 channel, to match the higher speeds of 200/10? If I run the test on the Duma & it doesn’t show high spikes, ping or packet loss, shouldn’t it be ok, even though it’s not recommended with these speeds? I may try the freebie modem they gave me just to compare....I know they don’t have a great track record, but since I have it & its the recommended modem, why not? What are your thoughts? If they recommend the 7620 that would get you better performance.. Do you happen to know if your area in TX is running on or supports DOCSIS 3.1? That's one of the things I would check. I have Spectrum here but I don't live in TX. Im all the way north of you in MN. I have the same speeds as you and they are telling me to update to DOCSIS 3.1. Basically this whole DOCSIS upgrade to 3.1 is to help with congestion and deliver higher speeds.. Even if your not on a gig plan the benefits of DOCSIS 3.1 is more channel bonding.. And the more DOCSIS 3.1 modems that are deployed the more it helps the whole Spectrum network congestion.. That's the theory behind it.. Just figured Id share that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossFitKila717 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Zippy said: If they recommend the 7620 that would get you better performance.. Do you happen to know if your area in TX is running on or supports DOCSIS 3.1? That's one of the things I would check. I have Spectrum here but I don't live in TX. Im all the way north of you in MN. I have the same speeds as you and they are telling me to update to DOCSIS 3.1. Basically this whole DOCSIS upgrade to 3.1 is to help with congestion and deliver higher speeds.. Even if your not on a gig plan the benefits of DOCSIS 3.1 is more channel bonding.. And the more DOCSIS 3.1 modems that are deployed the more it helps the whole Spectrum network congestion.. That's the theory behind it.. Just figured Id share that.. The 7620 was one that we supposedly needed to stay away from.....I think it was on the bad list of modems because of that whole puma 6 chip issue. I have no idea about the docsis 3.1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossFitKila717 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 17 hours ago, e38BimmerFN said: Yes, you'll have better performances with 16x4 than with 8x4 channels. The 7620 specs: WAN throughput: 680 Mbps WAN throughput upstream: 143 Mbps 7610 specs: WAN throughput: 343 Mbps WAN throughput upstream: 143 Mbps Also as ISP upgrade and improve there services, 8x4 and 16x4 will become out dated and some ISP will mandate or require the use of better modems with 24 or 32 channel support. Keep this in mind. A good modem list can be reviewed here: https://badmodems.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5 So, I should go with at least a 16x4 or 24x4? Also, I should find out about docsis 3.1 versus 3.0? I’m running the ping test on the duma with my 7610 & it shows no packet loss, “excellent” on ping, “good” on jitter & spikes. Is it necessary to still upgrade if these all show good? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, CrossFitKila717 said: The 7620 was one that we supposedly needed to stay away from.....I think it was on the bad list of modems because of that whole puma 6 chip issue. I have no idea about the docsis 3.1? Correct if the 7620 is in the bad list I would for sure stay away from it.. Anything with a puma chipset.. Specially if your a gamer.. Most cable companies are now or have deployed DOCSIS 3.1. And if deployed proper and dialed in correctly you would benefit from it.. But if you would rather play it safe then I would understand your reasoning in keeping with DOCSIS 3.0 modems.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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