XSXS Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 where is your data? I Am MoD BoX is trying to help. cut him a break. Ummmm... Try reading the entire thread before asking for data that has already been posted. Lol. Is this modbox alternate account? Haha Wowzers! Plus all I am saying I had better results with my old Cisco modem than the 7610. I would still recommend the 7610 to other users. All I am really saying there are other modems out there that work well with the R1 which should be good news for every owner of an R1. Not everyone has $40 to spend on a new modem just because someone says theirs do not work when it actually does. If you are in the market for an 8x4 modem, by all means give the 7610 a try and see how it goes. If no good, they can always return it like I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Armstrong ISP doesn't support TPLink. Again, not all ISPs support TPLink. Most Do. Just saying. Your test is on Comcast, doesn't apply to other ISPs. Could be same, better or worse. Not saying that users shouldn't use TPLink. Saying that other modems work and work well with other ISP as well. Again, I said all major ISPs. Armstrong is not even close to a major ISP. Even then the modem would probably still work, they just won't let you use it for whatever reason they have. In fact they won't let you use any modem except for 3, and none of those 3 are yours. So what's your point? Because I have tested the TC-7610 on ALL major US ISPs. Everyone talks crap about infinite warfare simply because they get owned. You have to listen to your own words here, by you saying certain modems dont work with the netduma, then those with those modems might not buy the netduma. I played the infinite warfare beta, and loved it. But I don't have to play to look at how the netcode works and is a clear problem with the game itself, not the servers. Pinging a server will show you a flat line ping with 0 loss. That is amazing! But the problem with that, is you are pinging an external IP address at some data center. This doesn't account for server loads, and the horrible coding/software in which the game is run on. Which is why, I don't look at how a game "feels" while I'm playing it. I gather IP addresses from various games and services, and then test them in a controlled way with no outside influence to see how a modem performs under various conditions. Again, I never said it doesn't work. I said "If you want the BEST possible gaming experience on ANY router with ANY major cable ISP in the USA, then the TP-Link TC-7610 is one of the very few modems which offer that." In fact, Fraser even said "Keep in mind, the R1 still works with those listed you just may get a better experience with those in the compatibility list." So this just comes down to selective hearing, or in this case selective reading. You are reading what you want me to say, not what I am actually saying. What I am saying is, yes, I too thought my SB6141 worked fine. In fact, I used it for about 8 months without realizing how much I had crippled my internet. I sat here blaming Netduma or a faulty router/software. After extensive testing I came to find out that it was my modem, the SB6141 which everyone claims to work fine, which was causing a problem. I removed the modem, and my problem went away. I then took that modem, shipped it off to Texas, connected it to Time Warner Cable rather than Comcast... And what do you know? The problem happened there too! What a surprise, I was right! Arris sucks for gaming. 100% bandwidth no C.C. the package I pay for is 60mbps download. Now with C.C. @ 70%/70% Now with C.C. @ 50%/50% Now with C.C. @ 25%/25% Do you noticed the bufferbloat grade? Oh and check out that ping. I'm checking out how it increases as you reduce congestion. As I said, that's a problem. 100% congestion control which is effectively off, and 25% congestion control should have nowhere near the same ping fluctuations... unless of course you're using a modem which randomly spikes causing random results. But obviously I'm just here trying to troll people, not help. I thought I was done replying to you in this thread but since you mentioned my tests, I will have to educate you again since talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Here are the facts with my testing on the 7610. I had an actual Cox tech come out and verify my lines prior to testing it. I was watching him and talking with him the whole time. Meaning my lines are good! My line quality is good enough to hand a -3.5dB splitter, so that argument is invalid for you. I only used the return path attentuator on the Cisco modem, never used it with the 7610. My upstream power levels with no attenuation was around 38-39 dbmv. The sweet spot for cox is 42-45. I pinged google.com which from my experience is more consistent in pings than google DNS 8.8.8.8. I use both Ipv4 and ipv6 so both those screen shots are showing how the 7610 pinged using both protocols. I also posted a screen shot of the 7610 modem levels which are perfectly acceptable even with a splitter installed. At least I informed everyone how exactly I tested the 7610. You have no data, dates, or how you tested each modem with the R1. Where is the ping plotter charts for all the other modems that don't work with the R1? How long did you "painstakingly" test each modem? It also sounds like deadpool is not having that great of luck with the 7610 anymore and he uses the same ISP as me. "must be the lines: even though other modems work?... Wow! So a guy who is paid $13 an hour came to your house in a 15 minute time slot that he has reserved for you, and he told you that their network wasn't the problem? Humph, who woulda thunk it?! I bet he connected his signal meter for a whole minute too! As I said multiple times now your test is flawed. I don't know why you don't believe that, but you clearly had different variables at play while testing both modems. If you'd like to know what those are go back and re-read everything I said to you and you'll see that your test is flawed. Plus, it is very clearly recommended to turn off IPv6 on the Netduma and you do not. So to test using IPv6 is just another flaw in your test. You can clearly see if you go back and look at the screenshots you posted: You claim that you tested the 7610 with google.com using IPv4 and IPv6. You can clearly see that for the 7610 (or the test you claim was the 7610) you pinged 8.8.8.8 which is Google DNS (which has been proven to be unreliable to ping) using IPv4 only. In the second set of screenshots, you claim to be using the DPQ3212, while pinging www.google.com using IPv6 only. So tell me, how is your test not flawed? Two different modems, setup two different ways, pinging two different IPs with two different communications protocols and you expect similar results? https://explorable.com/controlled-variables From this point on, I am only replying to new people on this thread that have a serious question. I am no longer engaging in this pissing contest with people who haven't tested anything, but claim to know the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II N3MES1S II Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I look at the ping on the netduma while playin Infinite Warfare not just ping an ip. You played Infinite Warfare Beta and didnt expect something can be glitchy? Have you played it lately or did you just not even buy it? Seems to me you are pushing this TP-link very hard and it smells as if you are an employee for them. This thread will be closed soon I'm sure, too much disinformation from you just making internet claims that you read online but dont really test. Oh by the way, I used the Arris SB6190 with software version D, K and N and so far N has been the best one. If they come out with another one that fixes the little ping spike that is barely noticable then its even better. FOR ANYONE READING THIS AND YOU HAVE THE SB6190, DONT WORRY, YOU CAN STILL USE THE NETDUMA ROUTER. THE SB6190 IS "COMPATIBLE" WITH THE NETDUMA BY ALL MEANS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 I look at the ping on the netduma while playin Infinite Warfare not just ping an ip. You played Infinite Warfare Beta and didnt expect something can be glitchy? Have you played it lately or did you just not even buy it? Seems to me you are pushing this TP-link very hard and it smells as if you are an employee for them. This thread will be closed soon I'm sure, too much disinformation from you just making internet claims that you read online but dont really test. Oh by the way, I used the Arris SB6190 with software version D, K and N and so far N has been the best one. If they come out with another one that fixes the little ping spike that is barely noticable then its even better. FOR ANYONE READING THIS AND YOU HAVE THE SB6190, DONT WORRY, YOU CAN STILL USE THE NETDUMA ROUTER. THE SB6190 IS "COMPATIBLE" WITH THE NETDUMA BY ALL MEANS. Still not reading what I wrote. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSXS Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Again, I said all major ISPs. Armstrong is not even close to a major ISP. Even then the modem would probably still work, they just won't let you use it for whatever reason they have. In fact they won't let you use any modem except for 3, and none of those 3 are yours. So what's your point? Because I have tested the TC-7610 on ALL major US ISPs. I played the infinite warfare beta, and loved it. But I don't have to play to look at how the netcode works and is a clear problem with the game itself, not the servers. Pinging a server will show you a flat line ping with 0 loss. That is amazing! But the problem with that, is you are pinging an external IP address at some data center. This doesn't account for server loads, and the horrible coding/software in which the game is run on. Which is why, I don't look at how a game "feels" while I'm playing it. I gather IP addresses from various games and services, and then test them in a controlled way with no outside influence to see how a modem performs under various conditions. Again, I never said it doesn't work. I said "If you want the BEST possible gaming experience on ANY router with ANY major cable ISP in the USA, then the TP-Link TC-7610 is one of the very few modems which offer that." In fact, Fraser even said "Keep in mind, the R1 still works with those listed you just may get a better experience with those in the compatibility list." So this just comes down to selective hearing, or in this case selective reading. You are reading what you want me to say, not what I am actually saying. What I am saying is, yes, I too thought my SB6141 worked fine. In fact, I used it for about 8 months without realizing how much I had crippled my internet. I sat here blaming Netduma or a faulty router/software. After extensive testing I came to find out that it was my modem, the SB6141 which everyone claims to work fine, which was causing a problem. I removed the modem, and my problem went away. I then took that modem, shipped it off to Texas, connected it to Time Warner Cable rather than Comcast... And what do you know? The problem happened there too! What a surprise, I was right! Arris sucks for gaming. I'm checking out how it increases as you reduce congestion. As I said, that's a problem. 100% congestion control which is effectively off, and 25% congestion control should have nowhere near the same ping fluctuations... unless of course you're using a modem which randomly spikes causing random results. But obviously I'm just here trying to troll people, not help. Wow! So a guy who is paid $13 an hour came to your house in a 15 minute time slot that he has reserved for you, and he told you that their network wasn't the problem? Humph, who woulda thunk it?! I bet he connected his signal meter for a whole minute too! As I said multiple times now your test is flawed. I don't know why you don't believe that, but you clearly had different variables at play while testing both modems. If you'd like to know what those are go back and re-read everything I said to you and you'll see that your test is flawed. Plus, it is very clearly recommended to turn off IPv6 on the Netduma and you do not. So to test using IPv6 is just another flaw in your test. You can clearly see if you go back and look at the screenshots you posted: You claim that you tested the 7610 with google.com using IPv4 and IPv6. You can clearly see that for the 7610 (or the test you claim was the 7610) you pinged 8.8.8.8 which is Google DNS (which has been proven to be unreliable to ping) using IPv4 only. In the second set of screenshots, you claim to be using the DPQ3212, while pinging www.google.com using IPv6 only. So tell me, how is your test not flawed? Two different modems, setup two different ways, pinging two different IPs with two different communications protocols and you expect similar results? https://explorable.com/controlled-variables From this point on, I am only replying to new people on this thread that have a serious question. I am no longer engaging in this pissing contest with people who haven't tested anything, but claim to know the results. I must have posted the wrong screen shot. Anyways. it is obvious you are not the smartest guy out there. I feel sorry for you, If you only knew my technical back ground. Have fun with your delusional world you live in. One thing I know for sure is that I am using another modem with guess what? a splitter and game play has been stellar as well as all network line test. Outpeforms the 7610 by a mile with game play with the exact same set up! But according to you my tests and opinions are invalid, however your opinion and data good??? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 I must have posted the wrong screen shot. Anyways. it is obvious you are not the smartest guy out there. I feel sorry for you, If you only knew my technical back ground. Have fun with your delusional world you live in. One thing I know for sure is that I am using another modem with guess what? a splitter and game play has been stellar as well as all network line test. Outpeforms the 7610 by a mile with game play with the exact same set up! But according to you my tests and opinions are invalid, however your opinion and data good??? lol Good for you and your name calling. Great way to prove your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Oh so other ISPs where some users may not have access or service to "major ISPs" don't matter? Still cutting out a major group of people whom may not have access to a "major ISP" and may want there modem and the R1 to work with what there "not even close to a major ISP" service which they may not have any other access to other ISP services. Still limiting the R1 NetDuma by saying that. I guess the little guy doesn't matter huh. Even though some ISPs don't support the TPLink, the R1 should work well and probably does work well, however the limited scope of your testing, experience and knowledge tells us other wise. As Nemisis said, the 6190 seems to work well with the R1 and presume thats with the most recent version of FW which Intel has made some advancements on. All other Broadcom based modems including Arris works well with the R1. We believe your list is very flawed, inaccurate and mis-leading. Only making it a disadvantage to users and the NetDuma folks having this list like this. Hope things will change for the better. I think the R1 is a good router for gaming. So are ALL modems that connect to it. NetDuma would only benefit by having ALL modems work with there router with ALL ISPs, Major or not. Again, I said all major ISPs. Armstrong is not even close to a major ISP. Even then the modem would probably still work, they just won't let you use it for whatever reason they have. In fact they won't let you use any modem except for 3, and none of those 3 are yours. So what's your point? Because I have tested the TC-7610 on ALL major US ISPs. I played the infinite warfare beta, and loved it. But I don't have to play to look at how the netcode works and is a clear problem with the game itself, not the servers. Pinging a server will show you a flat line ping with 0 loss. That is amazing! But the problem with that, is you are pinging an external IP address at some data center. This doesn't account for server loads, and the horrible coding/software in which the game is run on. Which is why, I don't look at how a game "feels" while I'm playing it. I gather IP addresses from various games and services, and then test them in a controlled way with no outside influence to see how a modem performs under various conditions. Again, I never said it doesn't work. I said "If you want the BEST possible gaming experience on ANY router with ANY major cable ISP in the USA, then the TP-Link TC-7610 is one of the very few modems which offer that." In fact, Fraser even said "Keep in mind, the R1 still works with those listed you just may get a better experience with those in the compatibility list." So this just comes down to selective hearing, or in this case selective reading. You are reading what you want me to say, not what I am actually saying. What I am saying is, yes, I too thought my SB6141 worked fine. In fact, I used it for about 8 months without realizing how much I had crippled my internet. I sat here blaming Netduma or a faulty router/software. After extensive testing I came to find out that it was my modem, the SB6141 which everyone claims to work fine, which was causing a problem. I removed the modem, and my problem went away. I then took that modem, shipped it off to Texas, connected it to Time Warner Cable rather than Comcast... And what do you know? The problem happened there too! What a surprise, I was right! Arris sucks for gaming. I'm checking out how it increases as you reduce congestion. As I said, that's a problem. 100% congestion control which is effectively off, and 25% congestion control should have nowhere near the same ping fluctuations... unless of course you're using a modem which randomly spikes causing random results. But obviously I'm just here trying to troll people, not help. Wow! So a guy who is paid $13 an hour came to your house in a 15 minute time slot that he has reserved for you, and he told you that their network wasn't the problem? Humph, who woulda thunk it?! I bet he connected his signal meter for a whole minute too! As I said multiple times now your test is flawed. I don't know why you don't believe that, but you clearly had different variables at play while testing both modems. If you'd like to know what those are go back and re-read everything I said to you and you'll see that your test is flawed. Plus, it is very clearly recommended to turn off IPv6 on the Netduma and you do not. So to test using IPv6 is just another flaw in your test. You can clearly see if you go back and look at the screenshots you posted: You claim that you tested the 7610 with google.com using IPv4 and IPv6. You can clearly see that for the 7610 (or the test you claim was the 7610) you pinged 8.8.8.8 which is Google DNS (which has been proven to be unreliable to ping) using IPv4 only. In the second set of screenshots, you claim to be using the DPQ3212, while pinging www.google.com using IPv6 only. So tell me, how is your test not flawed? Two different modems, setup two different ways, pinging two different IPs with two different communications protocols and you expect similar results? https://explorable.com/controlled-variables From this point on, I am only replying to new people on this thread that have a serious question. I am no longer engaging in this pissing contest with people who haven't tested anything, but claim to know the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 Oh so other ISPs where some users may not have access or service to "major ISPs" don't matter? Still cutting out a major group of people whom may not have access to a "major ISP" and may want there modem and the R1 to work with what there "not even close to a major ISP" service which they may not have any other access to other ISP services. Still limiting the R1 NetDuma by saying that. I guess the little guy doesn't matter huh. Even though some ISPs don't support the TPLink, the R1 should work well and probably does work well, however the limited scope of your testing, experience and knowledge tells us other wise. As Nemisis said, the 6190 seems to work well with the R1 and presume thats with the most recent version of FW which Intel has made some advancements on. All other Broadcom based modems including Arris works well with the R1. We believe your list is very flawed, inaccurate and mis-leading. Only making it a disadvantage to users and the NetDuma folks having this list like this. Hope things will change for the better. I think the R1 is a good router for gaming. Have you tried any other brand modem besides Arris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsta69 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 OK guys n gals, calm it. Please keep all replies and comments on topic and most of all civil, There is no need to get all up in the air about anything just because you disagree with another persons "opinion"any name calling pissing contests etc will be removed and relevant warnings handed out. At the end of the day we are all gamers and just want the best gaming experience we can get. Please feel free to share your tried and tested experiences of different routers and modems combo's etc but lets keep a lid on the ego's. Peace out and happy hunting. XSXS, ColonicBoom and e38BimmerFN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The plots look terrible I would not be gaming with those spikes, if people want to game using the puma6 bugged CPU let them Lets move on, your plot looks spot on Mod just be happy you are out of the puma nightmare. fuzzy clam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 The plots look terrible I would not be gaming with those spikes, if people want to game using the puma6 bugged CPU let them Lets move on, your plot looks spot on Mod just be happy you are out of the puma nightmare. fuzzy clam and A7Legit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted July 12, 2017 Netduma Staff Share Posted July 12, 2017 Agreed I think this thread needs to be calmed down a touch. I like to think the above was a debate rather than an argument, but it was getting a bit heated. I think Mod was being pretty reasonable in saying he'd tested the TP link on all major ISP's and found it to give decent results - but as he said himself, the Netduma is compatible with all ISP's and many connection types will give you good results. It's not just up to Mod to test out every ISP; I think he's done a fantastic job testing different connections so far but testing them all is a huge undertaking. Let's not forget the point of this thread; nobody should be trying to out-do each other here. P.S, can confirm, Mod Box was definitely not enslaved by TP link. fuzzy clam and bagsta69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 P.S, can confirm, Mod Box was definitely not enslaved by TP link. CONFIRMED... MOD BOX EXPOSED!!! fuzzy clam, Netduma Jack, Alex49H and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted July 12, 2017 Netduma Staff Share Posted July 12, 2017 You always know it's an evil contract if it's written on a scroll. Anyway, happy testing guys, there's been some great advice shared on this thread so I hope it continues. Alex49H and A7Legit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex49H Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 That signature confirms that Mod's blood is black! A7Legit and iAmMoDBoX 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSXS Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Wow! So a guy who is paid $13 an hour came to your house in a 15 minute time slot that he has reserved for you, and he told you that their network wasn't the problem? Humph, who woulda thunk it?! I bet he connected his signal meter for a whole minute too! As I said multiple times now your test is flawed. I don't know why you don't believe that, but you clearly had different variables at play while testing both modems. If you'd like to know what those are go back and re-read everything I said to you and you'll see that your test is flawed. Plus, it is very clearly recommended to turn off IPv6 on the Netduma and you do not. So to test using IPv6 is just another flaw in your test. You can clearly see if you go back and look at the screenshots you posted: You claim that you tested the 7610 with google.com using IPv4 and IPv6. You can clearly see that for the 7610 (or the test you claim was the 7610) you pinged 8.8.8.8 which is Google DNS (which has been proven to be unreliable to ping) using IPv4 only. In the second set of screenshots, you claim to be using the DPQ3212, while pinging www.google.com using IPv6 only. So tell me, how is your test not flawed? Two different modems, setup two different ways, pinging two different IPs with two different communications protocols and you expect similar results? https://explorable.com/controlled-variables From this point on, I am only replying to new people on this thread that have a serious question. I am no longer engaging in this pissing contest with people who haven't tested anything, but claim to know the results. Okay so looks like I did not upload all the the photos 2 weeks ago. However those screenshots are of the 7610 pinging 8.8.8.8. I did ping google.com as well using IPV6 (see attached screenshot). The only difference was adding a splitter in my testing but that's the only way I could use the 7610 was adding a splitter, so it would be stupid for me to test it with out since I would never use the 7610 without it. So really the only difference is the RTA and/or the splitter and I will give you that for the controllable variables. So since I did not use the splitter with the Cisco when testing I will stop with the comparison of the two even though that is how it would have been used in my set up. However, I am now using the Motorola MB7220 set up EXACTLY the same way the 7610 was set up with a splitter, same cable, same everything and it has outperformed the 7610, in buffer bloat, gaming (by a mile) and line quality tests. This modem can also be had for around $20 on Ebay which is more affordable than the 7610. Also I use IPV6 because I have no issues with it, speeds and ping (jitter) are better using IPv6 protocol with my ISP. I have yet to hear one good reason why the mods recommend turning it off except for the bug I myself found that they were were not aware of until I posted my own thread about CC does not work with IPV6. So going forward I will just discuss the performance of the MB7220, so this madness can be sqaushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZYLEGS Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 THIS IS IN NO WAY A FULL LIST OF WORKING/NOT WORKING MODEMS. AS A GENERAL RULE - STAY AWAY FROM ISP PROVIDED "ALL IN ONE" MODEM/ROUTER HUBS IF YOU CAN. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A NEW MODEM AND WANT TO BE SURE IT WILL WORK PROPERLY ONLY PURCHASE FROM THE COMPATIBLE MODEM LIST. NOT COMPATIBLE: Arris/Motorola: SB6121 SB6141 SB6183 SB6190 TG1672G TM1602 TG2492LG - Virgin Media Super Hub 3 No Arris or Motorola modems work well with the Netduma. I'd advise against it. AVM: FRITZ!Box 6460 FRITZ!Box 6490 FRITZ!Box 6320 Cisco: XG1-V3 DPC3848 DPC3848V DPC3939 DPC3941B DPC3941T DPC3941 (commonly - Comcast Xfinity XB3) Compal: Super Hub 3 - virgin media CH7465-LG Virgin Media Hub 3 CH7466 CH66xxx Hitron: CDA Series: CDA-32372 CDA-3-35 CDE Series: CDE-32372 CGN3 Series: CGN3, CGN3ACR,CGN3AMF, CGN3AMR, CGN3ACSMR CGNM Series: CGNM-2250 CGNM-3552 CGNDM Series. CGNV Series: CGNV4 Linksys: CM3016 CM3024 CG7500 Netgear: CG3300 CG4000 CG4500 CG4500TM C6300 C6300BD (Telstra Gateway Max - Australia) CM500 CM600 CM700 AC1750 AC1900 (R7000) Pace: C704 Panasonic: C01AS03 Samsung: Home Media Server Horizon G5400 Horizon G7400 Bbox G7441 SMC: D3G2408 D3G0804 D3GNV5 D3GN4 D3M1604 D3G1604 E3G1604 TP-Link: CR7000 TC-7620 Technicolor: TC8715D Ubee: EVW3226 Zoom: 5370 COMPATIBLE: Arris/Motorola: TM722G TM822G TP-Link: TC-7610 TC-7610-E Zoom: 5341J Are there any that is 16 x 4 modems? My ISP says I need a 16 x 4 modem to be compatible with my speeds. I have 300 down and 20 up My current modem, the ARRIS SB6183, apparently has the EEE bug. If anybody can help me with choices, it would be appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 There is the Motorola MB 7420 which is 16x4. Might see if your ISP supports it. The 6183 works as well as a 16x4 modem. CRAZYLEGS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_DEAD_POOL Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Are there any that is 16 x 4 modems? My ISP says I need a 16 x 4 modem to be compatible with my speeds. I have 300 down and 20 up My current modem, the ARRIS SB6183, apparently has the EEE bug. If anybody can help me with choices, it would be appreciated. Thanks! I came across a Netgear CM600 for $60. It is 24x8 which would also work if your ISP supports it. So far I have not noticed much of a difference in performance between the CM600 and the TP-Link TC-7610 compatibility wise with the Netduma R1. Modem Levels, Speeds, gameplay, Netduma Features, Bufferbloat, Puma 6 test, Jitter, and Pings are pretty much identical between the two. The main difference is with the CM600, I can consistently lock in to channels in the 800hz frequency range. The TP-Link seemed to have a hard time getting out of the 900hz range. The CM600 is a bit of overkill for my current internet plan (150/10), but for the price I figured I would try it out. It is rated up to 960Mbps. The CM600 also runs the Broadcom chipset. They usually run around $100, but I got lucky on craigs and found mine for $60. e38BimmerFN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainping Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Very strange. I don't see how so many modems can be incompatible with the router. When a late majority of people have the modems in the incompatible list. Maybe most that are in the compatible list are used by uk isp's possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Very strange. I don't see how so many modems can be incompatible with the router. When a late majority of people have the modems in the incompatible list. Maybe most that are in the compatible list are used by uk isp's possibly? Most of those modems use the Intel Puma chipset which is broken. Has nothing to do with this router. fuzzy clam and ColonicBoom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainping Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 There is the Motorola MB 7420 which is 16x4. Might see if your ISP supports it. The 6183 works as well as a 16x4 modem. Isn't 6183 in the incompatible list, have you used with the netduma before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Isn't 6183 in the incompatible list, have you used with the netduma before? Yeah... don't pay attention to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainping Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Most of those modems use the Intel Puma chipset which is broken. Has nothing to do with this router. A large portion of those modems are broadcom.. which is why I'm confused as to why they are there. and to be frank those modems With intel puma aren't incompatible, they're just trash modems all together especially for latency sensitive applications. I can see how the puma is deemed as incompatible though since it would completely bypass any latency features the router has ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainping Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yeah... don't pay attention to him. so I assume by this you mean 6183 is ok to use with Duma without any issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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