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For folks having crashing/freezing problems, here is a fix from TheSwhantz27.  He is actually a pretty smart dude when it comes to networking and shit, so I trust his info.

 

https://youtu.be/lWbOUxJSrTs

 

 

 

 

 

*I am going to intentionally post this in a couple of threads so everyone sees it.  ;)

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For folks having crashing/freezing problems, here is a fix from TheSwhantz27. He is actually a pretty smart dude when it comes to networking and shit, so I trust his info.

 

 

Who to delete who to delete?!? Hmm...some of those ex Halo friends are the first to go!

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For folks having crashing/freezing problems, here is a fix from TheSwhantz27. He is actually a pretty smart dude when it comes to networking and shit, so I trust his info.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*I am going to intentionally post this in a couple of threads so everyone sees it. ;)

Who to delete from friends list?!? Hmm...some of those Halo 3 friends!

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The funny thing is all the "PC Master Race" players are TERRIBLE players compared to console players. 

 

 

You don't even need a code.

 

Just go to your Steam library and the Beta should be waiting to download. Also, it's going free this weekend, just like the PS4 one did. The irony is this is the best way to get people to buy the game because they can literally "try before they buy" which is almost unheard of these days.

 

 

oh man, i misread that and thought it would be there even if i didnt pre-order. so they didnt hand out guest beta passes for PC like PS4? anyone has one hit me up... otherwise have to wait for the weekend.

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Dear Diary,

 

Made it level 14, number of positive games has increased, as has the number of WTF moments.  If I encounter one more god damn streamer, E-girl, or other group of cowards running around covering each other like it's the last round of S-n-D at Worlds I am going to break something.  If you have to play with 3+ friends to hit your scorestreaks, and then want to talk shit about it afterwards, I truly hope you have an entertaining life in only the most Chinese of ways. SFU!

 

I haven't yet found a use for the EMP grenades, need to re-evaluate them if anything worth a damn opens up.  Flak Jacket, where the hell are you?!  Jesus Christ, that is almost a mandatory perk in this game. LOL Those 'nades need serious nerfing prior to November.  Do you hear me Dave?  

 

Does ANYONE other than me run a fucking launcher?!  Seriously?!  If you are contributing to the other team getting air support, carry a launcher.  Meaning if  you have been killed 3 or more times in a row, lost a gunfight to the exact same guy twice in a row, or are double negative, be a good teammate and carry a launcher to shoot down the shit you helped saturate the air.  Do you know how annoying it is to be on a four or five gun streak, and that is a LOT for me right now, and then have to stop and shoot down TWO UAV's?!  Only to get killed doing so because my team was too busy running into a meat grinder?  

 

Evac, as a map, is terrible.  Hands down the worst map of the three we have access to right now.  Battery's War Machine is OP as fuck.  I don't know if Flak will help, or add the illusion of safety, but damn that thing is ridiculous.  Trophy system?!  Ha ha  I don't get that for another 14 or so levels... smh

 

 

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What is OP is Scythe (Robot) and his Death Machine (right arm transforms into a Vulcan cannon).

 

The reason it's OP is because he has the normal movement speed of a player + the spray and pray fire power of a Death Machine. This one has to be nerfed because once people start unlocking it that's ALL you see on the battlefield. It's like "Chappie Wars" -- Since Scythe looks like Chappie on steroids.

 

Also, the XB1  beta is terrible, IMO.

 

Not just because of the incompetent release, but because it is by far the laggiest one of them all compared to PS4 and PC. PC, ironically, has the best connection for me, but the problem is it won't be long before the hackers and cheaters start filing in... And I mean the Beta, let alone the full game. They'll test and perfect their hacks on the beta, and be ready for day one launch. I know Treyarch has TAC (Treyarch Anti-Cheat), but that takes a while just like VAC banning.

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Dear Diary,

 

1400hrs on Day one, I am not sure what ammo these soldiers are getting out of the armory, but that shit needs a SERIOUS re-evaluation.  If I have a head shot multiplier, and when I shoot you first, your characters' head SNAPS BACK, you don't get to then one shot me with a shotty or a special.  What kind of bullshit logic is that??

 

The entry level grind is real!  Anyone jumping on "later" but are reading these updates now, just plan on taking some lumps.  The entry level AR, the AR7 I think, is like level 8 now and it still is getting outgunned by subs at distance.  I am waiting to unlock the Shieva for the grind up to the M8, which everyone says is awesome, but god damn!  The Razorback is already the most used gun on the ground, I suspect this will continue through the Beta.  I might need to give the kuda a try and level that up, because thus far I am kind of unimpressed with the Razor, but then again the Kuda might just really suck.   :huh:

 

This is why it's a Beta.  They need to hear the pain points so things can be tweaked before the big launch in Nov.  *sigh*  

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Here is how the beta ran for PS4. The levels take forever to level up. This is on purpose for the beta, so people aren't max level within an hour. On the first day, the max level was 28. Ghost is level 38? The max level increased each day; therefore, you were able to unlock more items each day. Ghost works while moving or using scorestreak. It does not work if you are standing still. I grinded through the levels for the entire beta period and barely reached level 49 before they shut it down.

 

More tips and comments.

 

A big controversy will be the Blackhat. There are various youtube videos on how to use it. Blackhat is a tactical item (like concussion, flash, etc.). You can have up to two blackhats per class. It only takes one blackhat to hack a UAV, Counter UAV and turn it into your UAV or Counter UAV. For higher score streaks, it takes two (or more?) to hack them. Therefore, you can turn a Wraith or Mothership into your own. This personally happened multiple times to my party. For this reason, I started caring the Blackcell launcher. If it gets hacked, I just shoot them down. The controversy is that any player can easily hack a scorestreak that took a skilled player to achieve. I like the concept of blackhats to counter getting massacred by streaks, but it should be harder to do. In example, two blackhats for UAV/Counter UAVs and 3 or more black hats for higher streaks.

 

Funny Blackhat Parody Commercial

 

More tips and comments:

 

Weapons: Vesper is very fast firing but has LOTS of recoil. Shevia with rapid fire is great.

 

Attachments: The stock is not as great as other games and only provides slight mobility improvements. You can finally stack ANY attachments such as high caliper, FMJ, long barrel and suppressor. There are no restrictions on what can be put together. The thermal has a better field of view compared to other games.

 

Lethals & Tacticals - All thrown items do NOT travel very far. You have to really aim up high to get it go a short distance.

 

Lethals - The frag is pretty good because of the short distance thrown and it can role. The damage and damage radius is very good. The thermite grenade seems like a great item, but did not work as well in game.

 

Tacticals: The concussion grenades will make you come to an almost complete stop. It is like VERY SLOW motion if you get hit by one. It also seems to last a very long time.

 

Specialists: War Machine (aka MDL) is great for clearing out areas (dom flag or hardpoint). Unlike AW, the Active Camo (aka invisibility) is actually very good. The ripper has limited applications. Tempest is great when players are clustered together or protecting a tight pathway.

 

Game Settings: There was sensitivity for X & Y individually. There are various button layouts and separate option for flipped (i.e. switch R1/R2 and L1/L2). After doing horribly for two days, I noticed that the Target Assist somehow got disabled. I don't know if the settings changed by accident from the various people (son, nephew, friends) playing on my PS4 and account or whether is got changed during one of the many crashes. I recommend that you periodically check (especially after crash) that Target Assist is enabled.

 

Game Performance: There was several games with very considerable lag, more with parties. You can see who is partied together (awesome). It takes longer for parties to find games. The game often crashes. If you crash or have problems with parties, we found it best to close BO3 beta and restart it. If you don't people will have problems joining into the game. Game invites do not seem to work well (or at all); however, you can join people. The friends list always seems to be wrong. At one point the Beta showed 10 friends playing BO3. If you actually checked the friends, only 2 per playing. I did not really notice too much difference playing with or without geo filter and ping assist. I typically have to turn it off when in a party. It seems that only players with great/fast internet connections are able to host large parties. If you have problems with a party, change party leader to a player with better connection.

 

Wall Running: It will take you time getting used to this. I fell of several maps. There are tons of places that you would not think that you can wall run. Drift0r has several youtube videos for each map on wall running. Almost every time that I got into a gun battle (both on wall), we both died.

 

Thrust Jumping: I found it better to rapidly tap the jump button. Don't hold it.

 

Scorestreaks: Rolling Thunder is only useful for a very small space on the map. It is not like the old bombing runs.

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Dear Diary,

 

1400hrs on Day one, I am not sure what ammo these soldiers are getting out of the armory, but that shit needs a SERIOUS re-evaluation.  If I have a head shot multiplier, and when I shoot you first, your characters' head SNAPS BACK, you don't get to then one shot me with a shotty or a special.  What kind of bullshit logic is that??

 

The entry level grind is real!  Anyone jumping on "later" but are reading these updates now, just plan on taking some lumps.  The entry level AR, the AR7 I think, is like level 8 now and it still is getting outgunned by subs at distance.  I am waiting to unlock the Shieva for the grind up to the M8, which everyone says is awesome, but god damn!  The Razorback is already the most used gun on the ground, I suspect this will continue through the Beta.  I might need to give the kuda a try and level that up, because thus far I am kind of unimpressed with the Razor, but then again the Kuda might just really suck.   :huh:

 

This is why it's a Beta.  They need to hear the pain points so things can be tweaked before the big launch in Nov.  *sigh*  

At first I did not like the ARK, and I grinded to get the MSA7.  Once I fully leveled up the ARK, I found that it was a very good alternative and had good success.  I have several friends that ended up picking up the ARK and started liking it as well.  I use the ARK with ext mags, FMJ, rapid fire and suppressor.  For short to med range, the HVK with faster rate is very good (no suppressor).  The rapid fire on the Shevia is great.  The MSA7 is great at medium to long ranges, but seems to suffer at short ranges.  Even with a full burst at short to point blank range, it often would not get a kill.  I found that the Kuda can work very well in close ranges.  

 

 

Dear Diary,

 

Made it level 14, number of positive games has increased, as has the number of WTF moments.  If I encounter one more god damn streamer, E-girl, or other group of cowards running around covering each other like it's the last round of S-n-D at Worlds I am going to break something.  If you have to play with 3+ friends to hit your scorestreaks, and then want to talk shit about it afterwards, I truly hope you have an entertaining life in only the most Chinese of ways. SFU!

 

I haven't yet found a use for the EMP grenades, need to re-evaluate them if anything worth a damn opens up.  Flak Jacket, where the hell are you?!  Jesus Christ, that is almost a mandatory perk in this game. LOL Those 'nades need serious nerfing prior to November.  Do you hear me Dave?  

 

Does ANYONE other than me run a fucking launcher?!  Seriously?!  If you are contributing to the other team getting air support, carry a launcher.  Meaning if  you have been killed 3 or more times in a row, lost a gunfight to the exact same guy twice in a row, or are double negative, be a good teammate and carry a launcher to shoot down the shit you helped saturate the air.  Do you know how annoying it is to be on a four or five gun streak, and that is a LOT for me right now, and then have to stop and shoot down TWO UAV's?!  Only to get killed doing so because my team was too busy running into a meat grinder?  

 

Evac, as a map, is terrible.  Hands down the worst map of the three we have access to right now.  Battery's War Machine is OP as fuck.  I don't know if Flak will help, or add the illusion of safety, but damn that thing is ridiculous.  Trophy system?!  Ha ha  I don't get that for another 14 or so levels... smh

With Engineer, you can throw back grenades.  I have been able to throw back a few and even got kills with them.  Engineer also lets you roll your care packages.

 

You're absolutely right.  Without Ghost unlocked, you HAVE to run launchers.  I almost exclusively play domination and try to play in a party.  Usually 2-3 of us are carrying launchers.  In Domination, I average about 10-20 aerial shoot downs per game.  As a tip, it is a great way to get that last 75 to 150 points needed for the next scorestreak.  

 

The war machine and mini guns are both OP but also fun to use. 

 

There are some secret wall running spots (especially on the outside walls) on EVAC that are AWESOME flanking routes.  I highly recommend that you search them on youtube.  Once I found a few, I was easily able to flax around the enemies and take them out especially with the ARK with suppressor.  

 

There is also a way to run on the OUTSIDE of the big long white wall on Combine, which is fantastic for flanking as nobody expects it.

 

Hellstorm tip - Boost it get to closer to enemies faster and shoot them before they get a chance to take cover or run away.

 

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Overall, I think this beta is pretty terrible... Across all three major platforms (PS4, XB1 and PC)   :(

 

The game play itself is fine and 100x better than AW, but the netcode is just plain unfair 99% of the time.

 

I'm losing gunfights even when I pre-aim, and seriously hope the community asks for "Toughness" back because I don't see why they took that out, but built in "Marathon" (unlimited sprint). I thought we had come to a definitive CoD where certain things were now considered default like being able to run endlessly and not relying on a crutch perk like "Hardened".

 

The sad part is the netcode is so fucked not even the R1 Netduma can alleviate it...

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They need to bring Toughness back.  I can't see how I can be shooting you, see your head go back, then you shoot me and get the kill.  The WTF moments are real there, no joke.

 

Been booted out of about 10 or so games.  Xbox One just locks up and emits this high frequency buzz that is almost as annoying as some of the players.   <_<  

 

Who wants to lie in a dark shadow in a cave and wait for one kill?  The fuck is wrong with you?!  That cave on Hunted is AIDS.  Must avoid at all costs!

 

I really feel fed up and beat up with the few hours I have played today.  I know it wasn't, but it seemed like EVERY lobby was a sweatfest.  I've had easier lobbies, but they break up immediately after a good game, then back into the pit to fight against all the (2) system douchebags.  I got hit with a grenade by a "level 2 player" that chained a truck jump, a rock run and a Kobe 'nade that JUST missed the entrance sign on Hunted and somehow found me right on "B".  Seriously?!  Fuck you, I hope you choke on your own blood you douche.  :angry:

 

It would appear I have two choices now.  The dedicated server in Seattle (>30ms ping, but seemingly endless supply of marshmellow ammo) or the one in Kansas (About 65-70ms Ping, but the bullets seem to register better, although I rarely win a heads up gunfight).  Both of them seem to suck for me, which was my greatest fear after all the reports of AW on the local servers here.

 

Level 18 and grinding until the wife gets home, then I think I am going to retire for the evening and try again tomorrow.  If this continues, I will be purchasing a PS4 before November and dropping my pre-order for XB1.  I have limited hope the "Win 10" free-grade is going to suddenly make things fantastic...

 

C'mon trusty controller, back to the sweatshop!

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JD...yeah I carried a launcher on every class brother and 2 black hats.I just shot down the UAV's and hacked every score streak I could with the black hats,you should have heard them bitching at me.Nothing like hacking a hater or wraith and listening to them scream in the lobby cuz they got killed by their own score streak.That's my favorite tactical to carry... :D

 

And the M8 is pretty beastly,but so is the shevia and the ARK is nice too

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Blackhat is going to be changed. That much I can promise you :)

 

@Dillinger:

 

Hate to say it, buddy, but we're getting old. Seriously. We have to "tryhard" just to keep up with the kids normal reflexes, plus their ability to adapt a lot faster than we can. No joke.

 

That's not to say we're dead, of course. But it is a fact of biology as we get older we slow down in a lot of ways even if we are still sharp as a blade in almost all things.

 

My philosophy is this:

 

There are more tactical and less twitched-based  games out there. Not just FPS, but all genres. I'm looking forward to Rainbow Six: Siege because that is the definition of slow and methodical (even if people have this erroneous image of special ops tip-toeing around; most spec ops use the element of surprise and hit'em hard, hit'em fast, but I digress). If you have friends closer to your age... Play with them. Then you will all be on the same level in terms of skill and reaction time. A public beta is just one giant free-for-all for the 10-15-year olds who are hopped up on Red Bull. Hence, that asinine -- but funny -- Voice message I received on PSN.

 

So, I have just come to accept the fact these games ARE for younger people, but that doesn't mean we have to stop playing games. We just have to shift to games that rely more on brain power and less on twitch reflex power ;)

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A more rational ;) solution is to play later in the evening, too.

 

Most of the kids have school, now, so they have to be in bed at certain times which means usually after eight, nine o'clock.

 

There are fewer players on, BUT those who are playing are usually more mature e.g. college students, working adults, etc.

 

So, it's not all doom and gloom. You just have to adjust to certain things instead of expecting the games, or communities to adjust

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Feels like sbmm has kicked in at first wreaking then now getting out gunned by players that can turn on a dime.

Watching the kill cams and these guys are all shit hot.

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I enjoyed the newness of the game, the sounds of the shots impacting, and the missiles hitting targets etc, but I found the connection very hit and miss, don't think I finished positive in any game.

Although it's a new version of an old formula I think I'm COD'd out!!, it hasn't captured my imagination or interest like earlier versions

 

So I think I will let this one pass me by, unless you guys come on here after release and tell me otherwise.

 

I think the kid in me is waiting expectantly for the Star Wars Battlefront Yey

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The future settings do not do it for me but it is still fun, I do not know how long I will keep playing it when it fully releases.

 

Bring back now a days warfare or WW2 something you can relate to I say.

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I'm finding the connection terrible, opponents seem to be way ahead of me and I can't win any gunfights, but this what beta's are for so hopefully the full game will be better.

 

 

Hate to burst your bubble but almost certainly it will be the same story all year, sbmm will be cranked up and the constant horrible lag that has destroyed the series for me will always

 

be present. i have to go back to WAW for a treyarch game that plays like it should, from then onwards they tried to reinvent the wheel and its just simply blows my mind how we have

 

better internet nowadays but the games play worse than ever.

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