antithesis Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 There's some interesting stuff going on in that screenshot. Anti-queueing I understand, but Application Breakdown, RAM Usage, Flash Usage...what does this all mean?!? I think you just broke my brain Iain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbursley Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 There's some interesting stuff going on in that screenshot. Anti-queueing I understand, but Application Breakdown, RAM Usage, Flash Usage...what does this all mean?!? I think you just broke my brain Iain. Ram is like the short term memory of the the router that allows it to juggle different tasks. Similar to the idea of RAM in a computer or phone etc. Flash usage is the amount of space the router has left available similar to the idea of that of a hard drive. Not sure what application breakdown is, probably literally just that. A break down of all installed apps within the router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbursley Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Well there maybe stuff in there that could be patent pending or anything really, I think it looks lovely. Trueee. I actually forgot that there was parents needed for certain things. One of them being the antijitter correct? I'm sure there's more I'm not aware of, of course. But your probably right they don't wanna show off to much because they wouldn't want someone to copy their ideas without having it written on paper as "their own". Maybe that wasn't the best way to word it but I get where your going with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taconrad Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 you could always flash the netgear with dd-wrt and it will change it's performance completely. Not as good as the netduma but stock firmware on netgear is shite! I flash all my routers with DD-WRT. It sucks you can't bridge 2 routers with oem software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7Legit Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I know with the ability to start up with apps I'll limit the amount that run on the router. I need my 97% sliders, my anti-jitter and anti-spike, geo-filter and I'm set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbursley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I know with the ability to start up with apps I'll limit the amount that run on the router. I need my 97% sliders, my anti-jitter and anti-spike, geo-filter and I'm set! I thought in the newly made QoS you can have your sliders at 100% and still have the same effect so as to keep more of your speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca65 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I flash all my routers with DD-WRT. It sucks you can't bridge 2 routers with oem software. Welcome to the forum taconrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antithesis Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Ram is like the short term memory of the the router that allows it to juggle different tasks. Similar to the idea of RAM in a computer or phone etc. Flash usage is the amount of space the router has left available similar to the idea of that of a hard drive. Not sure what application breakdown is, probably literally just that. A break down of all installed apps within the router. Errr...not what I meant. I'm well aware of what RAM and Flash is. I meant why is RAM and Flash usage in the Duma OS, let alone in a position of prominence? It appears we have the ability to install apps, but why? Stuff like SNMP monitoring I get (it doesn't work properly on the current OS using an app like PeakHour), but I'm somewhat confused by the listings in Application breakdown. Is it pass-through network monitoring from other LAN devices, or from apps on-board the R1? Ergo, my brain done broke considering the possibilities opened up by apps and what this means for NetDuma as a QoS gaming device, both positively and negatively. Surely the hardware was not originally spec'd for add-on apps, so RAM and Flash will be very limited. Are we going to have to choose between core OS features based on available memory? As A7 said, as long as I have access to my sliders, anti-jitter, anti-spike and geo-filter, I'm gold, but I don't want to sacrifice one feature to enable another due to memory limitations. Optional add-ons...sure, but not core system features. Regardless of my speculation, it looks interesting and I'm patiently looking forward to getting my hands on Duma OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I'm wondering what the App Store icon does? Will we need to pay for addons perhaps? I see the pie chart made a return to the bandwidth control, I was hoping for a more precise way like entering a number for upload and download. Kinda hard to fine tune if more devices are added over time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted March 26, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2017 Thanks for the update and screenshot. Yes, it is frustrating having to wait but being a relatively new start up company it is to be expected and understandable. You are always gonna have negative comments and haters such as MrPapacherry but I am very very confident it is well worth the wait.........just hurry the heck up Hurrying! ... without haste of course I would ban any more threads re the Duma OS until it is ready for general release, it would stop all the negativity from the children stamping their feet because it's not ready yet. Also stops the mods from getting into discussions with the children who keep throwing their dolly out the pram. And if you are a grown up, you will realise that I am being sarcastic and treat this post with the disdain it deserves, if you are a child then I am already wearing a flame proof suit, and water repellant oil* * means whatever you say to me will just roll off, but have fun saying it anyway! lol looks like you're covered either way This is really good news and is all I needed to see right now as I mentioned earlier I was more worried about the hardware than anything else! At the end of the day the Netduma works great right now and TBH I would have been happy if they just fixed a couple of bugs on the existing firmware but an all new DumaOs will suffice! LOL. I had the displeasure of using a nighthawk R7000 last week. That router sucks! My KDR graph in Titanfall 2 plummeted and then I re-connected the Netduma and it skyrocketed back up! haha! From a development perspective it is far superior than the original software. Built from the ground up to rock! Thanks for the news! Can't wait to plug my Duma back up and give it another go. New UI looks beautiful btw... Thanks, glad to hear it Not to sound pessimistic. But isn't this screenshot very similar to the one we already saw at the beginning of this post or the other one which revealed the first sneak peek? This is the dashboard feature. You can pin any feature from any other R-App to the dashboard making it your one-stop place to be ... You can customise your dashboard however you want Funny that it looks similar, Id have thought it would look way different. It is a lot more detailed. Yeah just the dashboard feature mate, see the above There's some interesting stuff going on in that screenshot. Anti-queueing I understand, but Application Breakdown, RAM Usage, Flash Usage...what does this all mean?!? I think you just broke my brain Iain. It is a fullblown OS now. Meaning you can install, uninstall and upgrade R-Apps. Akin to Apps on a phone. So RAM/Flash are useful stats for users now. Tbh showing them on the dashboard may be a bit ridiculous but is proof you can pin anything. I think I'd personally have the CPU graph though. I flash all my routers with DD-WRT. It sucks you can't bridge 2 routers with oem software. What do you mean by bridge two routers? I know with the ability to start up with apps I'll limit the amount that run on the router. I need my 97% sliders, my anti-jitter and anti-spike, geo-filter and I'm set! All on your one-stop dashboard as well mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted March 26, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2017 I thought in the newly made QoS you can have your sliders at 100% and still have the same effect so as to keep more of your speed? Can't reveal info on that at the moment Welcome to the forum taconrad Welcome taconrad! Errr...not what I meant. I'm well aware of what RAM and Flash is. I meant why is RAM and Flash usage in the Duma OS, let alone in a position of prominence? It appears we have the ability to install apps, but why? Stuff like SNMP monitoring I get (it doesn't work properly on the current OS using an app like PeakHour), but I'm somewhat confused by the listings in Application breakdown. Is it pass-through network monitoring from other LAN devices, or from apps on-board the R1? Ergo, my brain done broke considering the possibilities opened up by apps and what this means for NetDuma as a QoS gaming device, both positively and negatively. Surely the hardware was not originally spec'd for add-on apps, so RAM and Flash will be very limited. Are we going to have to choose between core OS features based on available memory? As A7 said, as long as I have access to my sliders, anti-jitter, anti-spike and geo-filter, I'm gold, but I don't want to sacrifice one feature to enable another due to memory limitations. Optional add-ons...sure, but not core system features. Regardless of my speculation, it looks interesting and I'm patiently looking forward to getting my hands on Duma OS. See my quote in previous post mate. Don't worry about RAM/Flash being an issue on your device. We currently use about 22MB out of 128MB due to our unique fast compression algorithms I'm wondering what the App Store icon does? Will we need to pay for addons perhaps? I see the pie chart made a return to the bandwidth control, I was hoping for a more precise way like entering a number for upload and download. Kinda hard to fine tune if more devices are added over time... It allows you to install/uninstall and upgrade R-Apps independently i.e. you don't need to do a full system upgrade every-time something updates. Meaning we can continue evolving the ecosystem for the foreseeable future with loads of stuff you all want Yeah fine-tuning QoS is already done, you can't see in the pic. But you can allocate specific bandwidth to a device and lock it on the flower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro Innocence Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I am so excited mate! Can't begin to imagine how good it's gonna be! You da man Iain!... You da man hope your good mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted March 26, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2017 I am so excited mate! Can't begin to imagine how good it's gonna be! You da man Iain!... You da man hope your good mate! No, you dah man! I'm good man how you doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BENORMOUS Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Jeez mate that's a lot of info you have just thrown coal in the fire of this hype train chooo chooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted March 26, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2017 Jeez mate that's a lot of info you have just thrown coal in fire of this hype train chooo chooo all aboard the hype-train, it has no breaks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominican_3niz Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 i im so exited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RILLA au Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 One comment i will make that looks as though it will be a problem for a minority (such as myself) is the device bandwidth allocation spider graph. With increasing devices on your home network, when you have around 30 (like me) you can only set device bandwidth to 3 or 4% before it affects the other devices on the slider, making it very difficult to control QOS device priority. Being a front-end designer and also involved in UX, my suggestion would be to allow a toggle to go to an old school device priority list to easily order devices by drag and drop. I realise it might not be feasible off the bat to cater for minorities in the initial releases, but would be greatly appreciated if it were included in post release updates. feel free to add it to what i would imagine to be an already long list of user feature requests. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Okay Iain you can stop with all this information, you have feeling like a kid in a candy store with no money! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 One comment i will make that looks as though it will be a problem for a minority (such as myself) is the device bandwidth allocation spider graph. With increasing devices on your home network, when you have around 30 (like me) you can only set device bandwidth to 3 or 4% before it affects the other devices on the slider, making it very difficult to control QOS device priority. Being a front-end designer and also involved in UX, my suggestion would be to allow a toggle to go to an old school device priority list to easily order devices by drag and drop. I realise it might not be feasible off the bat to cater for minorities in the initial releases, but would be greatly appreciated if it were included in post release updates. feel free to add it to what i would imagine to be an already long list of user feature requests. ;-) Kinda difficult with the flower right, I have the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsta69 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 One comment i will make that looks as though it will be a problem for a minority (such as myself) is the device bandwidth allocation spider graph. With increasing devices on your home network, when you have around 30 (like me) you can only set device bandwidth to 3 or 4% before it affects the other devices on the slider, making it very difficult to control QOS device priority. Being a front-end designer and also involved in UX, my suggestion would be to allow a toggle to go to an old school device priority list to easily order devices by drag and drop. I realise it might not be feasible off the bat to cater for minorities in the initial releases, but would be greatly appreciated if it were included in post release updates. feel free to add it to what i would imagine to be an already long list of user feature requests. ;-) I also have many devices on my network, I may be speaking out of turn here as I am not anywhere near as tech savvy as yourself and your situation may be totally different to mine, but. I tick share excess and so when a device is not using any bandwidth it is available to the devices that are. In total I have around 16 devices on my home network and with share excess ticked I have not encountered a problem in over 2 years. As I said your situation maybe totally different to mine and I am not in any way trying to teach you how to suck eggs. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 my suggestion would be to allow a toggle to go to an old school device priority list to easily order devices by drag and drop. I realise it might not be feasible off the bat to cater for minorities in the initial releases, but would be greatly appreciated if it were included in post release updates. Good suggestion Rilla, stick it on the suggestions thread if you haven't already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG3NOC1D3 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I also have many devices on my network, I may be speaking out of turn here as I am not anywhere near as tech savvy as yourself and your situation may be totally different to mine, but. I tick share excess and so when a device is not using any bandwidth it is available to the devices that are. In total I have around 16 devices on my home network and with share excess ticked I have not encountered a problem in over 2 years. As I said your situation maybe totally different to mine and I am not in any way trying to teach you how to suck eggs. LOL. LMFAO! I have never heard that before, not trying to teach you how to suck eggs. I'll have to keep that one in mind. Thanks for the laugh mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex49H Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 all aboard the hype-train, it has no breaks mate Wooo! Woooo! Come on ride the train!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggs540 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 sounds great iain ! Take your time . Rome was not built in a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallenberg Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 sounds great iain ! Take your time . Rome was not built in a day "I am not in Rome, Doug. I am in a rush." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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