Zippy

Hello @Netduma Fraser, I have a question about this.. Does the Geo filter actually effect other players? If im solo queuing how does that affect the other players if there not in my party? Usually when I used this I would just get kicked back to the main menu and restart the search.. It never really effected other players.. Your thoughts on this? Thanks! Zippy.

@purpleandgold33 If you are going to go through the trouble of buying a new modem id purchase one that is DOCSIS 3.1 / 3.0 compatible.. Something like the SB8200 or MB8600.. That would be my recommendation.. I really wouldnt waste your money on just a 3.0 modem.. Those two I listed above are backwards compatible.. They work either on a DOCSIS 3.0 or 3.1 network.. Spectrum in your area likely uses 3.1 DOCSIS.. Even if your not on there Gig plan.. Example for yah is im on the same speed plan as you. And I have the SB8200.. It uses parts of DOCSIS 3.1 even though im not on there Gig plan.. Anytime you purchase a new modem you do have to make sure you fully factory reset your router/R2.. That is a must! Now in your case since you have changed modems a few times id start by unplugging your modem for a bit.. Then I would fully factory reset the R2.. Once the R2 has been fully factory reset before going through the setup wizard of the R2 I would plug back in your modem and let that fully boot up.. Then proceed to do the setup of the R2.. Hopefully this makes sense.. In the future though id recommend to upgrade to a better type modem.. save your pennies! Get on the DOCSIS 3.1 Network.. If your connection and cable coming to your house is good you should have a much more stable connection on the DOCSIS 3.1 network.. Good luck my friend! If you have further questions ask away! Zippy.

I remember this program that Redbull made. It was nice! If I remember correctly though it may have been limited to the source port being used. But that was the early version of caddy.. With that said the key here is to have this feature added back into the R2. As it would help understand what ports are being used for each person. I have a feeling that we may have different ports being used from each other. more on the source port.. Destination likely will be the same across the board. But again having this feature would tell the true story as its in real time of actual gameplay.. kinel did a poll about this being brought back. It had good response but nothing ever came of it.. We need this feature back.. Thanks! Zippy.

Fraser your my new best friend! Thanks! Appreciate that! Zippy.

Hey Fraser, It would be really nice to get this added back into the mix.. This really would help to trouble shoot as well.. You know ive also been a big promoter of having this added back into the R2 or your OS.. Im actually more shocked it was removed in the first place.. And also shocked it hasnt been added back in yet.. Its been asked to be brought back years ago now.. And I believe there was even a poll about it to be brought back.. Other routers have this feature.. Would be nice if you guys would as well.. If I recall correctly it was said it wouldnt take much to add this back.. Give us some hope! Thanks! Zippy.

Hey kinel, Thanks for reply. Why I want to try this is I feel that maybe prioritizing in one direction only might offer better more consistent results. And its something I would like to do more digging on.. I currently dont use TP on the R2.. For some reason when I enable it , it makes things very out of sync. Would be nice to try to prioritize in one direction only.. Like upload.. Then try download only.. see which one actually makes a difference. Thanks! Zippy.

So what location was the game server you actually connected too? Also this MTU value your using 750. Are you setting this in the R2 or something? I find it very strange that you can actually set it that low. Are you playing on a Xbox? Thanks! Zippy.

Hey kinel, I was going to ask you this awhile back.. But do you happen to know which ports might only prioritize one direction.. Like I want to prioritize only my upload ports or outbound ports. Not my receiving ports.. Are you able to capture or tell what ports are what direction? I know there was a way to do this but I cant remember how I did this.. Hopefully you understand what im asking.. Just wanted to get your feedback on this. Thanks! Zippy.

More then one rule can be used as long as they dont overlap.. If you decide to use the manual rule in your case I would try something like this.. Source: 3074-65535 UDP Destination: 3074-65535 UDP. That arrangement should cover it for you.. But do make sure you resync like Fraser mentioned.. Thanks! Zippy.

Welcome Kieran! Looking forward to the more content as well. Good luck with it all.👍 Zippy.

Awesome video! Wish you all the best with Netduma! Id have to imagine working for such a nice company is quite a treat! Again all the best! Zippy.

Give it a try if you want.. Again I do find myself like one of the only one that uses IPV6.. I just find that part strange.. lol..Im not sure if different ISP are at different stages of there IPV6 roll out or what the deal is there.. Thanks! Zippy.

Thats interesting.. For me I have IPV6 enabled on both WAN and LAN and it seems to perform better for me.. Im on the Xbox and have upnp off and no port forwarding rules and no dmz used.. But I do get an Open NAT even with all of that off.. Which is correct for IPV6 to work like that.. I think im the only one using IPV6.. lol.. Thanks! Zippy.

Did you happen to know or remember when you had IPV6 enabled did you have upnp on or have any port forwarding rules active while using IPV6? I would think that is what it means yes! I just found it a bit confusing that in the new network test for remote play on my xbox that it said my outbound port was open.. Which is 3074. It was just funny it mentions outbound but doesnt mention inbound with it.. Not sure exactly what it means by that test on my xbox.. I would have just thought it would state your xbox port is Open.. And not mention inbound or outbound.. To me when I seen that test I was like what about inbound.. Idk really what that means.. Could be nothing.. But yet strange.. Zippy.

Hey I was going to ask you if you are using IPV6 at all? Or are you using strictly IPV4? Makes me wonder if having a Moderate NAT helps to keep the flow of traffic in both directions more even? One thing I found strange about having an Open NAT with an Xbox is port 3074 is Opened on outbound only.. It never does mention of an inbound port being Open.. A while back I notice Xbox added another test into there network settings and I believe its for remote play...Have you noticed this test? Even though it stated everything was good when performing that test it only mentioned my outbound port being Open.. One would think there should be an inbound port as well? Anyways just wanted to share that.. Wasnt sure if you ever noticed that or not.. Thanks! Zippy.

I also noticed that a Moderate NAT type does tend to give better results.. Even though this doesnt make much sense having a Moderate NAT but it comes down to what works for each person.. So there really is no wrong or correct answer.. Go with what works. Ones MTU on the other hand I find as a very interesting beast.. Normally one would just leave our current setting.. Which in most cases is 1500 for most people.. But with that said rarely do any servers run at a full 1500 MTU value.. There always lower.. Google, Facebook, Cloudflare, MS, ect. all run at values bellow 1500 MTU value.. So what does this mean.. Path MTU Discovery is what sets the MTU value when we connect to a server..Even a game server.. Both IPV4 use this and IPV6 use this.. PMTUD sends a message of packet to big try this instead to set the MTU.. But from my readings is Path MTU Discovery is not really that reliable.. Specially now when we have IPV6 in the mix.. Regardless even if you have IPV6 disabled on your home network chances are if you connect to a server like Google or MS or a big data center your likely going through some sort of tunneling which having the correct MTU value is even more important.. Just to be clear im not saying for anyone to go and start changing there MTU value.. If things are working well for you Id leave well enough alone! The only reason I mentioned the above is theres alot of factors to take into consideration when things arent right.. And im only really touching on a few of them.. Zippy.

Your welcome! Please do let us know how your new modem does. Im curious on how your results will be with the new modem.. So feel free to share your results. As you know im not a fan of Spectrum.. I think your best chance possible to get a better grip on your ping is buying your own modem like the one you have mentioned. Its going to be your best bet.. Spectrum doesnt seem to be so concerned about latency which is a shame.. My neighbor who is on what I call crusty old dsl has a much better gaming experience and much more stable ping.. But he also only has 7Mbs down and 3 Mbps up.. But yet he games on it fairly decent tbh.. Anyways good luck! Keep us posted. Zippy..

That is a good modem.. There are two that I like.. One is the Arris SB8200 and the other is the one you mentioned here the MB8600 which is the Motorola.. Im also with the same provider as you are. Charter Spectrum.. When it comes to DOCSIS 3.1 modems id buy my own.. Dont use the supplied Spectrums DOCSIS 3.1 modems. They are locked down and have been having issues with there own in house firmware for there DOCSIS 3.1 modems.. When you purchase your own modem you are responsible to download any updated firmware from the company you bought the modem from.. So example of this would be if you bought the Motorola then you would have to get any updates for firmwares from them directly.. Not from Spectrum.. Which is what I like and want.. Also your modem wont be locked down to where you cant make simple changes if need be.. Even though theres not alot in a modem interface its still nice to have full access.. So you should be just fine with the Motorola.. Most seem to buy that one because its got a good price.. The Arris was a bit more expensive.. But as time has past the two could be fairly close now.. Both modems dont have the puma chipset.. Which is another plus! Good luck! Zippy.

It should be compatible with most any modem.Just not sure exactly what you mean by had difficulties turning on? Is your ISP Charter Spectrum? Also make sure you make a new topic if your having trouble so you can get the help needed if your still experiencing issues.. That way your issue wont get over looked. Thanks! Zippy.

Do you have an XR450 or and XR500? I noticed in your sig on the left you have a XR450.. If you have a XR450 I dont think the beta has started for that unless they are considering that a XR500.. Thanks! Zippy.

It would be close to maxing out your connection.. But it would not max it out fully.. If you do the math with QoS on the download the router is capable of handling is about 860.If your connection is capable of 940 then it wouldnt fully max it out. The difference is about 80 Mbps on the download.. Upload the router is capable of 821.With QoS on.. The difference you would lose there is about 59 Mbps.. So again it wouldnt fully max out your connection.. These are just figures of course on paper.. And from what Fraser has mentioned for capable speeds to expect. And this is all with QoS on... Speeds likely will vary depending on where and what server one is testing to.. With those type of speeds you have im not sure you would even notice not having that extra there.. Good luck! Zippy.

Thank my friend! Will give it a go in a bit. Zippy.

Fraser I have to ask are these cloud updates at least being done over https? This is an answer I feel needs to be asked. I get this is a gaming router but I sure hope Cloud Updates are over a secured connection. Also why does this router rely so heavily on clearing ones browser cache and cookies? I have beta tested a lot of routers over time and I honestly have never seen so much talk about browser cache and cookies. I have the XR500 and this type of talk doesn't scream superior to me at all. And the fact ive never run across this before from other routers might mean its not a good idea. So when I log into my router does it make a connection through my browser to some server every time I login? Is the router trying to make a connection to a server? How about when one flushes the cloud on the Geo Filter? Is it trying to communicate to a server for these cloud or profile updates? Also what about these R-Apps. Why is it these start to take longer to load? Are those only communicating between me and my browser/router? Those aren't trying to communicate outside to some server are they? Thanks Zippy.

Have you tested to see if it does work in Custom games/Competitive? My guess is if the custom game is being hosted on the server then the ports should be the same. But if a custom game flips to a P2P then they may not.. You will know if its working by the red light and by a nice flow of packets being prioritized up and down or send and receive.. Zippy.

That's good to know your light is now turning back on with that arrangement. You could always experiment even more if you wanted and further narrow down your source port even more. But if your happy with what you have then great! The reason why 3074 isn't your source port is a good question. And why others are able to use it and have game traffic go through it is another interesting question. What we do know now atm is your source port for in gameplay action isn't 3074 UDP. So your making headway there! Zippy.