Macca65 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Games console, PCs, games, Netduma, scuffs, battle beavers, recording devices, power line adapters, PS XBL subscriptions all this ( personal preference) does it make the enjoyment, or the experience any better. When you add it up it can be very costly, especially when some people have multiple consoles etc What would make you say "enough is enough"? For me it's getting close with the Seasons Pass, DLC etc. I know you can exercise your right to buy, or not, but you buy a game, it should have everything in it, not hold stuff back to squeeze more money out of you. And towards Xmas the pressure on parents will be even greater!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt-Greco Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 As long as DLCs are not "buy to win" it's fine with me. Fortunately market is self-regulated.A crap product will eventually fail. Milton Friedman is my mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_smooch Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Well it certainly isn't getting any cheaper! Dlc's could be cool if expanding on the gameworld, extra missions or anything that generally adds to the experience, trouble is pricing is usually too steep and content in most current dlc's for a lot of titles seems pointless ie: challenge maps or just ingame items! Again it seems a lot of emphasise is being put on digital titles and companies encouraging consumers to buy digital. But A: there is no resale value and B: Most console digital prices are overpriced compared to the physical copies of most games! Thats without all the extra gubbins mentioned in the op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 i won my xbox and a pair of astros on twitchtv not bad for a gamer nerd like me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urge Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Was talking about this exact thing with a friend the other night. DLC's don't really bother me as they've been here longer than the other items and are really just optional for more maps, etc. But having to buy half a dozen pieces of hardware to play is getting pretty expensive. My friends wife was asking if i still streamed much while we were playing and i just told her, not really cause that other stuff doesn't mean anything. I'd rather get back to the root of gaming and just have friends to laugh with in games. This probably isn't a popular opinion but i've said for 10 years that MLG is the worst thing to happen to games, it's what lead to needing a dozen things to outplay someone else when again, none of that really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsta69 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 For me gaming is a hobby kind of thing, and it is still a lot cheaper than my previous hobby of buying tuning and crashing fast motorbikes. The return per pound spent in enjoyment is is still well worth it in my situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_smooch Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 For me gaming is a hobby kind of thing, and it is still a lot cheaper than my previous hobby of buying tuning and crashing fast motorbikes. The return per pound spent in enjoyment is is still well worth it in my situation. Yeah and a much safer hobby, not much chance of killing yourself on a ps4!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II N3MES1S II Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It is like any other hobby like paintballing. Doesnt everyone spend lots of money on things they like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urge Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It is like any other hobby like paintballing. Doesnt everyone spend lots of money on things they like? You're right, everyone pretty much does. For me, personally, i'm spending the same amount of money either way. But in the future it isn't going to be about the extra special hardware needed to get a few extra kills, when that same amount could go toward 3-4 extra games throughout the year. I say this now, but if my xbox elite controller died, i'd probably go straight out and get another. Love that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_Wildcats_Fans Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I agree that gaming is getting more and more expensive, but I still love it. I love technology, so it is just more gadgets to add to the collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Net-1 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I disagree....cost per hour of enjoyment it's got to be the one of the cheapest hobbies on the planet and the more u play the cheaper it becomes. That's why I have no problem whatsoever shelling out, for Example, on the Black ops 3 season pass. Cos I know them maps are going to get played into the ground. I know that I will have some memorable moments playing them. Easily worth the entry price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_Wildcats_Fans Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It is definitely cheaper than photography, racing, motorcycles, shooting (guns), etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hell yea it's an expensive hobby that is never ending but it's not nearly as expensive as some of my other hobby's and it's a lot safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PharmDawgg Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It's a matter of point of view. You ask me - no not a all. You ask my wife - hell yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 watch a tmartn youtube vid and he claimed he spent over $8000.00 on supply drops etc on advanced warfare, now i know he made alot more money from his vids with the content he bought but that still crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The path to perfect online gaming has made me realize it is cods fault as you can not polish a turd I have faffed about for years thinking it was my end. When you play on EA Battlefield servers it all becomes clear. But having a good monitor or low input lag tv a great sound system or a modded pad is your choice and I find them to make gaming a more pleasurable entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsta69 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter. But it still smells of s*** though baggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7Legit Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Gaming is a hobby, it costs money, just like collecting coins and stamps, you put in money and if you love what you're doing, you keep doing it. When is enough -- enough you say, whenever you want it to be. We're a niche audience, not everyone sees the logic in buying a Netduma router for better online gaming, or better headphones and amplifiers and/or digital to analogue converters, or better controllers for more accuracy or precision. It has always been up to you/us/gamers, the end user(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 If you want to see an expensive hobby go head over to an audiophile forum lol - be prepared to spend everything you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 As another poster wrote already... Gaming is actually one of the cheaper hobbies in comparison to others. If you use the $1 = 1 HR of game play (enjoyment), I know I have gotten my money's worth out of many full-price retail games e.g. $60. If I can get 120, 300+ hours out of a MP series like CoD, then investing in every release isn't a bad investment for me because I enjoy it and am getting my money's worth out of it, IMO. Also, historically & statistically, gaming hasn't kept up with inflation over a 20 year period. Games used to be $40, and have "only" gone up to $60... $20... The last 20 years. So, a dollar a year isn't bad when you consider they could be well over $100 for a base game. Yes, you can spend upwards of $100+ on a game with DLC and mDLC, but that is optional. You don't need those extras unless it is a MP game (PVP; PVE; MMORPG) and your friends play the new maps. Most games are now selling cosmetic mDLC as a way to gain post-sales income, but as long as it isn't P2W like AW was, I'm fine with it. Having a pink polka dot camo just makes you easier to spot on the battlefield Now, as far as being outplayed via peripherals like Elite and Scuf controllers... That's always going to be a segment of MP gaming because everybody wants to win. I can tell the players who are using modded controllers by how they move and shoot: Paddles or buttons for jumping on the underside usually looks like a AW player, constantly hopping around the map like a Kangaroo and those rapid fire Shieva kills are a modded controller that mimics a fully automatic gun. If they want to use those things, fine, but like another poster also said, it doesn't mean anything in the real world. However, the issue I have with e-sports that was expressed earlier is it gives some of these kids false hope they will be the next Scump, or NadeShot. So, they "try hard" every game and there is nothing we can do about it because they have to learn, eventually, that you should play games for fun and not money. However, when you are 10-15, playing video games for a living is very enticing and something that seems within their grasp. So, the unhealthy cycle continues. There is nothing we can do about unless we just stop playing MP games altogether? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltr7 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 As another poster wrote already... Gaming is actually one of the cheaper hobbies in comparison to others. If you use the $1 = 1 HR of game play (enjoyment), I know I have gotten my money's worth out of many full-price retail games e.g. $60. If I can get 120, 300+ hours out of a MP series like CoD, then investing in every release isn't a bad investment for me because I enjoy it and am getting my money's worth out of it, IMO. Also, historically & statistically, gaming hasn't kept up with inflation over a 20 year period. Games used to be $40, and have "only" gone up to $60... $20... The last 20 years. So, a dollar a year isn't bad when you consider they could be well over $100 for a base game. Yes, you can spend upwards of $100+ on a game with DLC and mDLC, but that is optional. You don't need those extras unless it is a MP game (PVP; PVE; MMORPG) and your friends play the new maps. Most games are now selling cosmetic mDLC as a way to gain post-sales income, but as long as it isn't P2W like AW was, I'm fine with it. Having a pink polka dot camo just makes you easier to spot on the battlefield Now, as far as being outplayed via peripherals like Elite and Scuf controllers... That's always going to be a segment of MP gaming because everybody wants to win. I can tell the players who are using modded controllers by how they move and shoot: Paddles or buttons for jumping on the underside usually looks like a AW player, constantly hopping around the map like a Kangaroo and those rapid fire Shieva kills are a modded controller that mimics a fully automatic gun. If they want to use those things, fine, but like another poster also said, it doesn't mean anything in the real world. However, the issue I have with e-sports that was expressed earlier is it gives some of these kids false hope they will be the next Scump, or NadeShot. So, they "try hard" every game and there is nothing we can do about it because they have to learn, eventually, that you should play games for fun and not money. However, when you are 10-15, playing video games for a living is very enticing and something that seems within their grasp. So, the unhealthy cycle continues. There is nothing we can do about unless we just stop playing MP games altogether? I agree with your first statement, but I believe the growth of peripherals is the evolution of gaming. Look at any other competitive sport, auto racing for example. teams are constantly looking for ways to go faster, so they develop new ways of doing just that. Some of them might bend the "rules" a little to get there but then due to the fact that everyone wants to go faster the rules get changed and we progress. That is why things like scuff controllers are approved by MLG and other competitions, as far as professional gamers go they do have to work at being good not just buying the right hardware. I have a 14 year old girl on our clan and she lays waste to all using nothing but stock equipment and isp provided router and if she wanted to go "pro" I would support her all the way. In the famous words of Shia LaBeouf if you want it "just do it, make it happen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procreate Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 its getting cheaper for me didnt buy AW DLC, didnt buy BO3 or DLC... havent bought "next-gen" console... still playing the old IW titles though so certainly driving the cost per hour down on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranium2001 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For me gaming is a hobby kind of thing, and it is still a lot cheaper than my previous hobby of buying tuning and crashing fast motorbikes. The return per pound spent in enjoyment is is still well worth it in my situation.And it keeps me out of the bars. The wife likes that (I think)?! $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsta69 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yeah that as well cranium lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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