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    Bert got a reaction from Cajun72 in PSN or Microsoft servers for Call of Duty?   
    They are not hosted by Sony or MS, servers are 3rd party hosted. So it doesn't make a different anyhow.
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    Bert got a reaction from N3CR0 in PSN or Microsoft servers for Call of Duty?   
    They are not hosted by Sony or MS, servers are 3rd party hosted. So it doesn't make a different anyhow.
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    Bert reacted to GHOST-1-EC in Does anyone have a wireshark capture for MW?   
    Been a busy week at the office, had little time to game but when i did jump on, everything still felt as good as when i last played. 
    Using ping assist at 50ms instead of geofilter in this gameplay......this was a <42ms lobby. 
    With no cloud update i'm still stuck playing <58ms lobbies majority of the time. 
    ABB set to 'Never' - using manual qos rules specifically for the servers i connect to.
    Enjoy!! 
     
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    Bert got a reaction from SM961 in Three Different Speed tests   
    If you have windows 10, try using the speedtest.net desktop app. For me, their website always reads low but for some odd reason the desktop app is bang on.
     
    DSL reports usually doesn't give me accurate results due to the distance to their server.
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    Bert got a reaction from purpleandgold33 in Three Different Speed tests   
    If you have windows 10, try using the speedtest.net desktop app. For me, their website always reads low but for some odd reason the desktop app is bang on.
     
    DSL reports usually doesn't give me accurate results due to the distance to their server.
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    Bert got a reaction from N3CR0 in trying to fix lagcomp expiriment   
    They have always done that. So many times when I quit a match they just toss you back in the same lobby.
     
    You can run and gun just fine in this game but the more slow playstyle currently has a lot of advantages.
     
    However. There is probably 10+ ways a player can improve himself. Most people just stand opposite of eachother, shoot, or strafe a bit and shoot, or at best use cover. If you're in a 1:1 situation you need to figure out other tactics than shoot and aim for the best.
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    Bert got a reaction from bagsta69 in Great hit reg on MW   
    I think you both had the same thought LOL.
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    Bert got a reaction from bagsta69 in Great hit reg on MW   
    4:06 wtf haha.
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    Bert reacted to bagsta69 in Great hit reg on MW   
    Im still really enjoying this new Modern Warfare. I have some good games and bad but for the most good. Hit reg on this game seemed to be excellent. 24-3 with 3 captures and 9 defends. 
     
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    Bert got a reaction from progprogprog in trying to fix lagcomp expiriment   
    IMHO if you add asymmetric latency on up and download. Adding 50ms of ping in both directions doesn't alter much.
     
    I have been testing and looking at others.
     
    On YT, clips have a 30FPS format. so we can assume there is 33ms between frames.
     
    My own connection, no artificial delay, 60ms in game latency gives a hitmarker after 2 frames, ie 66ms (+/- 33ms). This is what you would expect. Add another 60ms artificial latency so we show 120ms in game, and measure the same, I get a hitmarker after 4 frames, ie 133ms (+/-33ms) also pretty much what you would expect. I played back a game from when I was in Europe a few weeks ago where I show roughly 25ms in game, 8ms on Duma OS and my shots land on the next frame, ie below <33ms.
     
    That is what you would expect it to be. 120ms is perfectly playable by the way you really only notice this when you start measuring or if you are a pro from a hitdetection point of view.
     
    I just need to find a game with high latency users now and see if it changes, ie are connections equalized or not. Because this is all measured in games where my connection was good.
     
    You can replicate this by connecting to a far away server that gives you higher ping but the issue is that there is more hops in between that can mess with your traffic so getting a server close and adding artificial latecy gives a far more accurate result. Like from the past I know that the Japanese server often has huge unexplainable delays. Ping in game in both MW and BO4 are measured directly off the in game UDP packets so is by far the most accurate. The server itself doesn't actually answer ICMP requests so I am guessing that DumaOS goes off the last hop it can get a ICMP response from.
     
    These measurements are very rough, ideally you need a capture card. PS4 and YT footage is recorded at 30FPS but 60FPS would produce a more accurate result.
     
    I have looked at others as well. On YT, if you pause a video you can play them frame by frame by pressing , and . on the keyboard. Korean Savage has 3-4 frames delay and on Apathy BZ I can see a 3-4 frame delay as well. These are guys I expect to play on a really good connection. What actually surprises me is how good first shot accuracy on Korean Savage is. He almost never misses the first shot. But it indicates a latency of 100-133ms for them, either they are beeing compensated against or their connections isn't as good as you think.
     
    My best game yesterday was on regular 40ms yesterday though (60ms in game) so really I don't think it helps much. I think it might just cause the game to be visually more fair when you are at a slightly higher latency, closer to the lobby average. Ie the guy coming around the corner laserbeaming you in a nanosecond would likely still have had you if your ping was higher. Just the killcam would have looked more decent.
     
    Conenction balancing would make the game fair but it does obviously affect the quality of the game for low ping users.
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    Bert got a reaction from Grafti in trying to fix lagcomp expiriment   
    You use a PC and a console.
     
    The PC needs to have 2 network ports or wifi. You connect 1 port to the Netduma and 1 port to your console. Then turn on Internet Connection sharing.
     
    In DumaOS call your PC a games console and add it to the geofilter, port forwarding etc. Forward ports in windows ICS and voila.
     
    Now you can use wireshark to capture traffic and you can also run a connection emulator to add additional latency. I use SoftPerfect Connection Emulator. It lets you target a specific protocol like UDP and a specific port if you want to. But CoD MW seems to be changing it's ports every time so I just delay all UDP. You can adjust the latency values while it's running.
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    Bert reacted to Bat 'n' Ball in trying to fix lagcomp expiriment   
    Before adding an XR500 to my hardware collection, I used to use HMA VPN to connect to US servers across the pond (via a DD-WRT-flashed router), primarily because EU servers tended to match me with continental European players who did not speak English - I like to communicate with players and I only speak English, hence the VPN usage. The chances of English-speaking players on an east coast US server was maybe 95%, as opposed to maybe 50-50 when playing on a European/UK server. I’ve generally been playing over a VPN for nearly 10 years!
    My ping to a US VPN server on the east coast from the UK was around 72ms; not bad at all considering the distance. The in-game ping would generally go up due to the extra hop from the VPN server to the game server but despite the relatively high latency of 72ms and above, vs a closer European server, I found that the lag comp generally went in my favor.
    I now use my XR500 to change my home location rather than use a VPN but if anyone is interested, ProtonVPN is free and works with the Hybrid VPN feature of DumaOS. You need to paste your credentials into the Advanced tab of your router VPN section. https://protonvpn.com/
    After many, many tests over the years, some quite complicated ones involving Windows ICS and specialised Connection Emulator software to artificially invoke lag to the connection etc., as with you ‘ugotstretched’, I tend to have the opinion that the better my connection, the worse my gaming experience is. This is not definitive; it’s just a general observation which I’ve made over the years of playing COD.
    Most serious gamers pay for the best connection they can afford and therefore this is fundamentally wrong. Lag compensation algorithms/netcode should not chastise a gamer with an excellent connection. 
    I’m a fair player BTW and I never ‘tinker’ with my connection in order to gain an unfair advantage. I’m quite satisfied to lose to a better team, but when I am going game after game with hardly any kills and I see a player on the other side seemingly in ‘god mode’ whom nobody can touch, with 30/0 KD, I will go out of my way to figure out what is going on.
    I never used to take much notice of the kill-cam replay’s because what you see on your screen and what the other player sees on their screen are two different things. But what you do see with the replay, is what the server itself saw, not what you or the other player saw. It can sometimes hint as to what is going on with the lag comp.
    Online gaming can seem infinitely complicated sometimes if you are an avid gamer. I often spend more time changing settings than I do playing. I don’t mind experimenting but wouldn’t it be nice to just sit down and have a fair game without having to worry about settings!?
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    Bert got a reaction from Netduma Fraser in Server Connection   
    Just move it above it. But you can only do that on the dashboard page.
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    Bert got a reaction from bagsta69 in Crossplay   
    I had crossplay on and most PC players are not hard to beat. But then they started spamming that 725 shotgun in lobbies and that combined with MKB input is just impossible to beat consistently. Aiming with MKB and a weapon that you just need to fire in the general direction of your enemy is simply faster than a controller.
     
    On PC it's actually easy to run programs to increase latency. Same for console but it requires routing console through a PC and that needs a little tooling.
     
    Side note is that wifi often doesn't cause much extra latency. When I use my normal ethernet connection I will read about 33ms to the server and on wifi that is 34ms, its about 1ms slower and that is because base ping to the router seems 1ms slower. Only when you run a ping plotter check you will see slightly more jitter. That is with the router 1.5m away. But there is big differences in wifi quality though.
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    Bert got a reaction from N3CR0 in BN: MW Net Code   
    I think 30% accuracy is actually really good.
     
    For reference I usually average around 20% and my 2.6 K/D friend is around 26% The best player that I know averages around 46% against bots but online your accuracy is always lower.
     
    As for Cronus Max, I have one so I can run my Logitech GT wheel on my PS4. And I have looked into these GPC scripts out of interests but they don't give that much advantage:
     
    -Aim assist mods: Nothing that a CM can do that I don't do, I always move so rotational assist kicks in. The way these work is that it simply lets your character move ever so slightly even when standing still.
     
    -Recoil mods. Simply program a little thingy that lets the CM control the stick. There is a little caveat here and those are your analog stick curves. CoD basicly has a 0.2 sec timedelay from where it ramps up from zero to your stick position. So that causes two things. The first is that if your recoil control kicks in it's not consistent. Ie the device doesn't know about this 0.2 sec ramp up time. That's why it doesn't always work so well, only for sustained firing. When you let go off the trigger and fire again this 0.2 sec kicks in again throwing you off target. Also you have to understand that while firing the game thinks you're moving the stick. So when you apply a manual correction with the stick, this 0.2 sec ramping up curve is not there and it's throwing you off and making aim inconsistent. There is another bunch of technical / programming reasons why this becomes inconsistent but I'll leave it at that.
     
    There is only two things that really work. One is rapid fire for burst weapons. Like the Deamon in BO4 can be made full auto. And the other is recoil control for slow firing weapons, below +/- 650 RPM. The way it works is that in the later CoD's, your recoil pattern resets if you let off the trigger. So instead of holding the trigger down, the program just cycles the trigger and that eliminates nearly all recoil on weapons like the KN-57 and Grav, Rampart etc in BO4 without messing with the analog values.
     
    Most of all this is very low level stuff and I think that good players don't actually play better with a CM. Most value of the device is in it's remapping functions. Like in BO4 you can let your character autosprint, then you simply set L3 to jump and R3 to slide and you have the same capabilities as a 200 dollar scuf controller.
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    Bert got a reaction from N3CR0 in BN: MW Net Code   
    By the USB device you mean Cronus Max?
     
    Actually it does very little and you get extra input lag as bonus.
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    Bert got a reaction from East in The tickrate debate   
    Do you have a business account with a regular ISP in your area or a actual 1:1 lease line? (These are different as you are still using the same backend as the rest of the users on the ISP network on a business account, just the SLA is different and more strict than a residential connection) 
     
    For a lease line they essentially dig a complete new cable to your place and you connect directly onto a backbone. And there is litterally no other users on your line, so no oversubscription. You can get a 10G line if your pockets are deep enough for example.

    I think that there is also other tricks going on sometimes, like joining games with very low skilled players to circumvent SBMM. I have noticed some YTers always magically leave the matchmaking out of their videos for example. Downside is that you would need to do this every game over.
     
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    Bert got a reaction from East in The tickrate debate   
    There is no need for VPN etc there is much more advanced ways.
     
    First of all, most big youtubers use a private lease line instead of a commercial / residential ISP. That gives them a big leg up.
     
    VPN, bandwidth throttling etc.
     
    If you want to screw around with latency. Use a PC, add a second networking card. Connect your PS4 or Xbox to that and use the windows ICS option. Then on your PC use a program like SoftPerfect Connection Emulator (this works but is expensive) or Clumsy (free but more tooling required) and you can set your latency to the server independent on upload, download, traffic classes etc. For example with the first program you can set the extra latency to UDP traffic only. If you set that, ping google from the PC or whatever and it will show a nice 10ms, but play MW and all of a sudden you can have a 1000ms latency or whatever you set it to. These tools are actually banned by a lot of anti cheat software. For example I had a old copy of BO3 on my PC and Steam will detect the clumsy program and shut down the game. But obviously this will work if you run a console through a PC. And for the record I consider this cheating.
     
    With the above you just set the PC in your geofilter as you would normally do with your console. And it works flawlessly. For port forwarding, you need to port forward from your router to your PC and on your PC forward to the console to get open NAT.
     
    With the above I was able to in fact establish that the latency measurement in MW is done through UDP somehow. When I set extra lag on UDP traffic the latency meter in game shoots up straight away but the other traffic and the latency meter on DumaOS is not affected.
     
     
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    Bert got a reaction from bagsta69 in The tickrate debate   
    Do you have a business account with a regular ISP in your area or a actual 1:1 lease line? (These are different as you are still using the same backend as the rest of the users on the ISP network on a business account, just the SLA is different and more strict than a residential connection) 
     
    For a lease line they essentially dig a complete new cable to your place and you connect directly onto a backbone. And there is litterally no other users on your line, so no oversubscription. You can get a 10G line if your pockets are deep enough for example.

    I think that there is also other tricks going on sometimes, like joining games with very low skilled players to circumvent SBMM. I have noticed some YTers always magically leave the matchmaking out of their videos for example. Downside is that you would need to do this every game over.
     
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    Bert got a reaction from purpleandgold33 in So Many Variables!!!   
    You will never get this totally right.
    A Netduma router or any other router with QoS can only control traffic outgoing at your own network and there is stops. Netduma/DumaOS also have the option to use a geofilter to limit connections, that's where you get the major advantage over other brands.

    First of all, there is no dedicated servers in CoD in true sense of the word. A true dedicated server is an actual physical server dedicated to running the hosting software and has it's own internet connection.  What we call dedicated servers in CoD is a program running in a cloud, this cloud has multiple access nodes  which all have their own traffic load, and the cloud itself is running numerous other programs requiring internet bandwidth and prioritization levels. So performance of the hosting/server program is reliant on total usage of the cloud it's running in and total bandwidth usage of the cloud. If you have ever seen a complex like this, my place in Europe is close to a Microsoft datacenter, and the place is massive. You're easily talking over 10 football fields long and wide, having over 25 warehouse sized buildings containing their serverpark. So you can imagine it doesn't get it's internet through a single UTP cable, there is multiple fiberoptic backbones coming in. It has actually happened that I was connected to the same server complex. DumaOS showed 41ms ping. Game finishes, next game loads, I am playing on another uplink on the same servercomplex and ping read 33ms. So we can already see that their servers themselves are inconsistent.

    Before I continue, this is a good basis read:
    http://denkirson.proboards.com/thread/5972/networking-lag-compensation-hit-detection
    I think it's posted here before but it's a good foundation as to why there is issues and what is this terrible lag comp people on the internet talk about.

    Traffic coming from your router doesn't go straight to the server, but first has to cross your ISP's network. From there it goes on one or more backbones owned by a third party. From there, it usually gets connected up to a internet exchange, a place where these backbones meet and a lot of high end serverparks have a very close connection to these places, or are directly plugged in. On every segment, the owner of the network sets his own traffic shaping and prioritization ques.

    One of the largest Internet Exchanges in Europe is AMS-IX. For reference you can see how much traffic they process: https://stats.ams-ix.net/index.html What is funny here is that you can see exactly what peak time is for internet usage and peak load on the backbones and the network.

    Beginning at your ISP. Your ISP is usually oversubscribed factor 100 to factor 500. They expect their customers to use their internet in bursts so they can sell the same bandwidth multiple times if you want to call it that. Or another way of putting it. I live in a town with about 50.000 households covered by my ISP. I have 300/300 bandwidth. So if everybody had that and fired up their speedtest website, the ISP has to have 15Tb of bandwidth to my town alone, that's simply not happening. As you can see in the link above, the actual AMS-IX roughly has a 6 Tb/s throughput. 

    Since they don't have this amount of bandwidth, the ISP has to deal with bandwidth management and they do this by something called traffic shaping. They have multiple traffic ques for different types of traffic, each having their own priority level. My ISP in Europe for example, they offer free VOIP between customers. You don't want this to be laggy, so this will be prioritized highest. Furthermore, the ISP's believe that a regular customer will simply spend most time downloading stuff, surfing the internet and watch streaming content etc. Their traffic shaping algorithms are optimized towards that. You can tell simply by the fact that download is much higher than upload on most residential connections. So while traffic is filling their traffic ques, the shaping algorithm decides what to send out and what to buffer. When the buffer is full, traffic simply gets dropped (the idea behind bufferbloat as often discussed on these forums)

    Gaming traffic is UDP traffic. And generally is just one way traffic. One reason why a ISP likes to put UDP traffic in the very lowest priority que, is that when a packet is dropped it is simply ignored after, the sender simply sends the next packet. TCP on the other hand, sends a packet, awaits confirmation from the receiver and then sends the next. So if the original sender doesn't get this confirmation, it will simply resend the packet. This is why network operators choose to drop or delay UDP traffic. Once it's gone it's gone. TCP traffic will be resend over and over and if there is any sort of congestion issue dropping TCP packets will simply make this worse. 

    Also, since different traffic has different priorities, you have to look at how ping is calculated in game or by a website etc. Is it physically sending a ICMP request, or does it do what sites like DSL reports do, send a HTTP get request and time how long it takes to get an answer? These things are all different. Point being here is that while you can have a great ping in game, it's a different traffic class than UDP gaming traffic. So while your ping might look great, your gaming traffic can be lagging all over the place since this is qued and buffered differently. 
    When your traffic arrives at the backbone, largely the same thing will happen, your traffic is prioritized and gaming traffic is once again in the lowest tier. Every hop to the server will have it's own traffic ques and traffic shaping schemes. All the way up to the server complex.

    So this lag comp people speak of? Following the above. Latency for UDP traffic can be very different than ping suggests but can also be more unstable due to buffering etc. What is more annoying, is that it can also be asymmetric. Since most ISP's provide asymmetrical connections, their traffic shaping model across their network will follow a similar model. What's happening when the famous "Lag comp is against me" occurs? Your real-time UDP latency on download is higher than on your upload to the server. If you have read the article about lag compensation at the start, it will be obvious by now. When this occurs, your traffic reaches the server faster than you are gettig the gamestate updates from the server. And thus you will appear at your enemies screen before they appear on yours. And they seem to shoot you in a nanosecond. Some players try to influence this by clogging their upload on purpose, so they delay upload to the server. 

    Fine example of exactly this happening to me a few days ago:
    You can see he was clearly not on the screen when I was taking damage.

    This mainly why you get a different feel for the connection every time you play, or even from game to game or half way the game. You can control your own network, but next to you and the host, there is at least 3 other different parties involved who have a influence on the quality of your traffic. It makes me chuckle when some Youtuber connects up router A and afterwards router B and decides on feel that one or the other is better because he had a slightly faster hit detection in one of the games.

    Also, when you are setting up your network, and follow the directions for setting up anti-bufferbloat, you're simulating a fully loaded internet connection. Most of the time when playing, this is not the case. When I play CoD and I have my DumaOS screen open, I generally have a traffic load of 0.5 Mb/s on a 300/300 Mb/s connection. Bufferbloat is absolutely not going to be an issue no matter what you set the sliders to. 

    When is all this important? QoS and anti bufferbloat is simply important if you have a low upload connection, or better said low compared to your usage. On a connection with 10/20 Mb/s upload, a phone simply syncing can already congest your network. This is where you need to have your bufferbloat and QoS set up right. If you are using a 1000/1000 Mb/s connection this is of very little interest. QoS will do very little for you here. You read about people complaining that they are using 1000/1000 Mb/s internet and still have a crappy game. Thats simply because traffic coming from their network is simply still affected by traffic shaping between their ISP, backbone and server and this is not any different than any other connection.

    Geofilter is the prime functionality for R1 and DumaOS routers for me. It simply makes sure that you are connected to the closest server. I measured ping across Europe. To Amsterdam I get 8ms, to Italy 28ms. If you were to have a game that was truly having 28ms latency, it would be perfectly playable. It's only that from Amsterdam to Italy, there is so many extra hops in the traffic route that the chance of you meeting over congestion is exponentially growing. As geofiltering limits your matchmaking, you have to find a balance here between connectivity and quality. Typically in Europe I have Amsterdam, Frankfurt and London in my filter giving 8-15ms ping. Paris for some odd reason gives 25ms and always has a lower game quality. 

    I have friends that use R1 routers and mess about with the sliders every day and they can never get it right either. That's because it's impossible to get it right and it's all pissing in the wind. If you have a setting that gives you a clean line without bufferbloat, then you did all you can do and the rest is simply out of your hands.

    Other settings? DNS, MTU? Is all BS. Set it to what your provider defaults and done. It's all snake oil. I swapped my XR500 for my R1 once to do some testing, forgot to update the connection setting in the PS4 and it was pointing to a non functional DNS adress. And the game ran fine. I only found out because I went to upload a video afterwards and it was coming up with DNS errors. So conclusion here is also it doesn't matter which DNS you use.
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    Bert got a reaction from ColonicBoom in MarkofJ's MW review... He makes ALOT of good points!   
    No it's made for SBMM and other BS. That's why you will never get a serverbrowser.
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    Bert got a reaction from ColonicBoom in MarkofJ's MW review... He makes ALOT of good points!   
    You're never ever going to get a server browser simply because they want you to go by their matchmaking algorithm.
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    Bert got a reaction from Zippy in Tick rate all over the place   
    Exactly that.
     
    On the R1 everything like wifi is outdated but it's geofiltering ability is still very usable.
     
    You can run a different form of QoS if you want and still use R1 for the geofilter. Just turn off QoS and set the sliders to 100% or even just set 1000/1000 mbps speeds.
     
    Also there is instances where a standalong R1 just doesn't work, like if you need a PPPoE connection. I have done the above and there is no performance difference when compared to my XR500 in standalone.
     
    There is something different between the 2 as well when it comes to packet processing. On my XR500 my PS4 Pro will show a download speed of 150-250mbit and a very low upload of 10 mbit. For some reason when I use ISP router + R1 in it's place it returns a stable 60/60. I am not convinced the standalone XR500 is better but it's hard to test this without falling into the placebo trap.
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    Bert got a reaction from WalkedDave in OPENWRT and XR5OO (only for geo-filter)   
    To be honest I think it needs setting up in the same way a normal 2 router configuration gets set up.
     
    So basically you have 
    ONT -> 3200 ACM -> XR500.
     
    Now you can do it several ways.
     
    First of all, put the XR500 in DMZ on your 3200ACM.
     
    Then, on 3200ACM enable QoS with Cake. Set the bandwidth limits to about 80-85%.
     
    On XR500 totally disable bandwidth control and QoS, and simply run only geofilter.
     
    Now you can choose to do with the rest. In this setup I would use your XR500 just for Playststion or console and have the rest connected to the 3200ACM since that controls QoS anyway. It's a bit of a waste of features of the XR500 to be honest, you could simply do with a R1 instead. 
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