Albo2001 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Frustrations ??? 09/01/2018 Netduma Team said "It will be 17 April 2018 and as promised before, it will be a FREE upgrade for all users. " 4 Month Zennon.. And a day before releasing they " Briefly Delay" , not a month , a day before.. Do you think is this correct?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Also why do you think its okay for someone who mods this forum to belittle our arguments about the broken promises that Netduma made? I don't think that's ok. There are no mods belittling customers' frustrations, we have all said that we completely understand the frustration and that we have the same frustration. That's why I asked you to point me in the right direction, I can't find what you're talking about to look into it. N3CR0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procreate Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 This has been longest wait for update in history of man. Not weeks or months... Years have gone by. I've given up. ChriscomIT, MrWhooz and FQs19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChriscomIT Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 This is the first forum I've been to where forum mods are allowed to down talk to paying users, its really astonishing. It's also an indicator on how the company itself deals with customers. Really the bare minimum in every aspect. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChriscomIT Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I understand the frustration and that is why I have not interacted in the thread letting people blow off steam, I have seen people posts about crying, this is incorrect voicing disappointment is not crying. I wish it had been launched already with more gamers using DumaOS as I am sure Iain and the team do too. Has licensing to Netgear scuppered earlier plans for a 2017 release I am sure it has, I think that any business would be crazy to turn an offer from one of the biggest router company's in the world. Has the above upset users of course and Iain will be gutted it has, he is now under pressure twice as much as he used to be, probably more and is fighting to get the DumaOS out for everyone. I may buy a XR500 soon but looking at the specs of the R1 firmware and the Netgear firmware the R1 does so much more at the moment. I am sure when Iain releases it for the R1 he will then have time to write new RApp's and then it will catch up and then super seed the R1 but for now for me the R1 fw is where its at. All of the above are my thought's and not of Netduma as I am just a gamer and help out when I or if I can. Have some people taken it a bit far, yes but only because they have been wound up by other member's to a point where they are getting even more annoyed. If there has been any behavior from mod's or members that is deemed inappropriate please use the report process so it can me monitored and dealt with accordingly. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I was banned for taking a screen shot showing that the release date was pushed back again and saying "Would love to know the excuse this time". I guess that's "inappropriate" behavior? No, it would have been considered a 'non-constructive post', with the only purpose of riling up more discontent. Not helpful. Which was your previous account? N3CR0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dog Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 "Any word on DumaOS for R1 users yet?" "No but we are working hard to get it done asap for you guys." A backward feature need one week or less.. Its not so complicated.. Backward compatibility is a problem that you could resolved in three ways , one of this way could be done in 3/4 hours of work.. I will made a post where i will explaine that way.. It s so simple.. For this reason i said that DumaOs haven t that problem.. Awful. Just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dog Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I understand the frustration and that is why I have not interacted in the thread letting people blow off steam, I have seen people posts about crying, this is incorrect voicing disappointment is not crying. I wish it had been launched already with more gamers using DumaOS as I am sure Iain and the team do too. Has licensing to Netgear scuppered earlier plans for a 2017 release I am sure it has, I think that any business would be crazy to turn an offer from one of the biggest router company's in the world. Has the above upset users of course and Iain will be gutted it has, he is now under pressure twice as much as he used to be, probably more and is fighting to get the DumaOS out for everyone. I may buy a XR500 soon but looking at the specs of the R1 firmware and the Netgear firmware the R1 does so much more at the moment. I am sure when Iain releases it for the R1 he will then have time to write new RApp's and then it will catch up and then super seed the R1 but for now for me the R1 fw is where its at. All of the above are my thought's and not of Netduma as I am just a gamer and help out when I or if I can. Have some people taken it a bit far, yes but only because they have been wound up by other member's to a point where they are getting even more annoyed. If there has been any behavior from mod's or members that is deemed inappropriate please use the report process so it can me monitored and dealt with accordingly. Very diplomatic, Z. But surely these levels of snowflakery would be better dealt with via the Duma furnace? I assume the old girl still fires? Snowflakes, be safe. Be warm. Begone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dog Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 This has been longest wait for update in history of man. Not weeks or months... Years have gone by. I've given up. Pro, no offence intended... but you're going to struggle to stay in my top ten 'best of the rest' list with this kind of attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy love Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm just amazed how people who have been waiting years and are complaining about waiting this long are considered acting unreasonable by a few overrated and over indulging people who post in these forums. ChriscomIT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Crowley Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm just amazed how people who have been waiting years and are complaining about waiting this long are considered acting unreasonable by a few overrated and over indulging people who post in these forums. ^Right?^ The absurdity of the whole situation is unreal. It's absurd that I'm still following this, but my interest is peaked by the level of egregious effort it takes to blow it so bad. It's been such a long time at this point. You could string people along for way longer with much less backlash if they (Netduma Staff) just posted here to say almost anything at this point. The reality is, I don't think they made any bad decisions besides how they've failed to communicate to customers what's going on. Things change and deals happen, and for fun, here's how I imagine it all going down.... 'Look at us developing DumaOS for the R1, this is gonna be sick boys!, Wait, whats this?.... Holy crap!... NETGEAR just made us an offer on our software boys!, heck yeah!, we've finally MADE IT boys!...Wait,....whats this in the fine print,... they want us to sign a ND agreement and we have to switch to developing only for their hardware, hm.....well whatever, we can finish the R1 version right after we are done with the Netgear version! Shouldn't take very long, we banged out the last one in a couple of weeks...' Months later 'Man these Netgear guys are sticky about bugs and testing. This is taking forever....' Months later 'Hey guys, it's strange but the guys who bought the R1 are starting to get aggressive in the forums, what should we do?... Tell em it's coming...' Months later 'Finally we got Duma OS on a real powerful router! It works great boys!, look at all the exposure we have now! We've made it! We deserve champagne, lets toast!...' A week later 'Hey boys, we really gotta get working on DumaOS for the R1, for some reason those boys are chapped.....Ok, ok, lets look at this,.. what do we have here,... WOW, this version is really incomplete, look at all the stuff we have to do to make it as polished as the version we made for Netgear,..bugs,bugs,bugs,.. Ok tell em it will take a month, tell em April 14th. April 13th 'Oh man, bugs, bugs, bugs, "Software development is hard" (actual quote from Twitter), what should we say to them?...nothing, I don't know how long this is gonna take us to sort out and Netgear just called and they want more features working by next week....' end... In reality I have no clue if it's true or not because Netduma hasn't told me any different, I'm just left here to attempt to make sense of it on my own. I get why they did what they did, I'd have made the exact same business decisions, if I were in their shoes. If they would have just kept early adopters in the loop then I'd be that early adopter who is happy to support a small company trying to make it big and I'd even be willing to wait patiently on the sidelines while the boy make it big, but they can't even show me the respect of telling me the truth. Ok, now cue Alex to Netduma's defense, because Netdumas not. Sir_smooch, ChriscomIT, FQs19 and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSXS Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Ding ding! We have a winner here! Lol. I think that is exactly how it went down. BTW, Alex is a Netduma cheerleader around here, rah rah, rah he goes! buddy love 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChriscomIT Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 It was 17th April but nevermind. The essence of what you saying is pretty clear even if its just a guess. And I pretty much agree sadly. Macca65 and buddy love 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crowley Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 It was 17th April but nevermind. The essence of what you saying is pretty clear even if its just a guess. And I pretty much agree sadly. I didn't even bother looking it up, not that it matters much. What's a couple of days after year or more? When was the original DumaOS announcement anyways? I can't even remember anymore, I know last year I had the distinct impression I'd see it before Christmas. Maybe this Christmas after all?, better late than never. I almost considered the XR500, but at this point it's a matter of principal. NM- I found it, July 19th 2016. Original Announcement Also, Check out the hashtag #RouterRevolution Boy was I wrong, I though they said Fall 2017, it was Fall 2016. buddy love and ChriscomIT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL317 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I didn't even bother looking it up, not that it matters much. What's a couple of days after year or more? When was the original DumaOS announcement anyways? I can't even remember anymore, I know last year I had the distinct impression I'd see it before Christmas. Maybe this Christmas after all?, better late than never. I almost considered the XR500, but at this point it's a matter of principal. NM- I found it, July 19th 2016. Original Announcement Also, Check out the hashtag #RouterRevolution Boy was I wrong, I though they said Fall 2017, it was Fall 2016. Lol ChriscomIT, buddy love and joaso 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 BTW, Alex is a Netduma cheerleader around here, rah rah, rah he goes! Don't make him angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry. Alex49H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChriscomIT Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Lol This fridge must have been refilled a friggin lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex49H Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Don't make him angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry. LoL ColonicBoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikun Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 In all seriousness, and without trying to pick a fight, isn't it reasonable to expect some sort of update? At least a measly, "We ran into unforeseen technical difficulties'? RL317 and dav581005 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dav581005 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 In all seriousness, and without trying to pick a fight, isn't it reasonable to expect some sort of update? At least a measly, "We ran into unforeseen technical difficulties'? Yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alba_gamer Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Netduma team, can we get any hint of when the update will be available, that would be greatly appreciated. joaso, boxone and RL317 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy love Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 The more I look over Netdumas twitter page the more I think that update about something big wasn't for the R1 at all. The only mention of the R1 seems to be people asking when is it going to be ready. They sure seem to talk about the XR500 and how great it is. Not so much about the R1. Maybe the silence is a hint. Macca65 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca65 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 The more I look over Netdumas twitter page the more I think that update about something big wasn't for the R1 at all. The only mention of the R1 seems to be people asking when is it going to be ready. They sure seem to talk about the XR500 and how great it is. Not so much about the R1. Maybe the silence is a hint. I love conspiracy theories! I agree the silence is deafening, Conspiracy theory 1 maybe the Netgear hierarchy told Netduma "You can't give the OS for free when our customers have to pay for it" Conspiracy theory 2 "Netgear "If you delay the roll out of the OS, the Duma customers will get pissed of with waiting and buy the XR 500 and we will give you a cut of the sales". Conspiracy theory 3. Duma "We can't the OS to work on the Duma, backwards compatibility is not going to work. Blame the lawyers! I am thinking that, quote from Hamlet "There's something wrong in the state of Denmark" lots of conspiracies in Hamlet! Dirty Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FQs19 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I see only two possibilities: 1) Netduma signed a Non-Compete clause which has still not expired. April of this year would've been 3 months from the release of the XR500. So maybe they have a 6 month Non-Compete clause. 2) The R1 is not powerful enough to run the current DumaOS. Or there's some other technical issue that they are having problems with. I don't think Netduma cares whether customers buy the R1 or the XR500. They are getting paid in both cases. Either way, I don't see Netduma telling us what happened. Eventually you will see a post that says; Here's DumaOS for the R1 or one that says; Sorry, No DumaOS for the R1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 This is the announcement thread. Keep it on topic. If you want to discuss technical things, games, problems or anything else then put it in the correct section of the forum. I have removed the off-topic posts. BIG__DOG and FQs19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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