Macabi83 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 HELP US ALL WITH SHIT CONNECTION AND TRY HARD LOBBIES.... ONE AFTER ANOTHER... played 10 matches today and all had players with over 300 plus score per min and 8/10 players over 2.0 k/d , what a way to f... up xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7Legit Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 No SBMM here. Were you playing on XBL by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macabi83 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share Posted December 19, 2015 Check out reddit people say its back and strong! https://www.reddit.com/r/blackops3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltr7 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Doesn't seem to be a problem compared to the team balance issue, I always fall in the top three of the leaderboards in most lobbies. Now the team balance thing that's a big problem, I can be the only one on my team to go positive several games in a row outscoring everyone on the other team and still lose every game fml. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limagreen Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Just in time for the Christmas fresh meat. No more pub stomping and crushing noobs for you. SBMM is needed, and balances the game to keep it a more even playing field. Good job Treyarch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I don't really care about the competition as much as the damn hit detection. Let my bullets score on an even playing field and I will get my kills. The way it is now, I can be shooting you IN THE HEAD, and you have time turn, ADS, and melt me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akic Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Doesn't seem to be a problem compared to the team balance issue, I always fall in the top three of the leaderboards in most lobbies. Now the team balance thing that's a big problem, I can be the only one on my team to go positive several games in a row outscoring everyone on the other team and still lose every game fml. lol been happening a lot to me lately too. Went 34-4 TDM and LOST FMLx2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JConnor Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 To my knowledge there is no SBMM. I know this because I have faced everybody from level one all the way to 65 Master Prestige and up IN A SINGLE MATCH. This is how it should be, IMO. You don't get better playing people your same skill level, or below. Just in time for the Christmas fresh meat. No more pub stomping and crushing noobs for you. SBMM is needed, and balances the game to keep it a more even playing field. Good job Treyarch Why is it that every time people against SBMM are accused of wanting to pub stomp? I just want varied skill levels in one game. I don't want to play everybody the same because it's boring, plain and simple. It seems you are the one who is probably a below average player and wants things set on "easy" for you? See what I did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 SBMM is back in full effect. Lobbies full of similar ranks, similar SPM. No Lower Ranks. Getting shot in the back all the time, just like AW. I've gone from 50 games found 25 good matches. To 5 good games found.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urge Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Ya'll must be having some seriously bad luck finding rooms today. I've been having trash games today but it's connections and has nothing at all to do with SBMM. I don't doubt for a minute that anyone has found high score per minute rooms, i have seen them myself today; but i've seen just as many that have an extreme variance in score per minute as in 133 to almost 400. SBMM has no where been confirmed and is only being spread by a bunch of reddit sheep that everyone is buying into cause they've had bad games. Until Vahn and Treyarch confirm it there's no need to worry bout it, just play on, accept that some rooms are just gonna be hard and have try to have fun. There will be better rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 No wonder why it was taking me 20 minutes to find a game last night... Nobody matches with my SPM in hardcore search lol, I actually said "Uhh this is like AW all over again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7Legit Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I'll try it later, since my eye op my SPM is lower lol Let the rage for my opponents begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 New settings hot fix has been pushed out and removed the SBMM as 22.41pm UK time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7Legit Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Yes it's already gone from BO3, new update. Thank you do not come again! http://youtu.be/m1Ca3JoxQP4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretface Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 haha came and went and I didn't play a min of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Vendetta Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I went from angry about SBMM to laughing that they removed it the same day because of backlash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Z IE IR O II Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 yes! Back to 30-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Purple Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Ridiculous decision to reimplement it in the first place, overnight the game went from fun to super annoying back to fun again. That was going to be a scary year stuck with sbmm, glad common sense has prevailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretface Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 They will find a way to ease into it, they seem to want to put it. Just because they removed it don't mean it ain't coming again. I don't like it because it makes connections even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procreate Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 To my knowledge there is no SBMM. I know this because I have faced everybody from level one all the way to 65 Master Prestige and up IN A SINGLE MATCH. Prestige Level has NOTHING to do with SBMM. there has been a lot of theories how its implemented though... but time played does not equal skill, nor does their level. i have gone in games in AW first game lighting up the other team when that came out going say 45-2 or something, get booted from lobby and stuck in a tryhard lobby with the ensuing poor connections. if i were to guess i would say its based on SPM, maybe with a hint of KDR, mabye WL thrown in a little? but 90% SPM. thats really the only gauge of a good player. a camper can have a high KDR but very low SPM and low WL. ironically my son has been begging to play on my XBL account to play on my 360 playing BO/MW3/BO2/Ghosts rather than play BO3 on his PS4. he is no slouch of a player either... he is usually top of the lobby dropping 30-50 bombs in TDM. he is already sick of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffinFancy Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Folks, Vahn confirmed that they never implemented SBMM. Just a hotfix that folks jumped the gun on thinking it's SBMM due to one person freaking out about playing against people better than him. Here's Vahn's tweets RE:SBMM: http://imgur.com/a/4sc6A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PharmDawgg Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Vahn was trolling us. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathoftank Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Folks, Vahn confirmed that they never implemented SBMM. Just a hotfix that folks jumped the gun on thinking it's SBMM due to one person freaking out about playing against people better than him. Here's Vahn's tweets RE:SBMM: http://imgur.com/a/4sc6A lol, yea... but he pretty much confirms that the tweak accidentally created sbmm. I can absolutely confirm that it was back with full force for about 24 hours, which he also confirmed. Not only did everyone in my lobbies have anywhere from 2-5 kds and 350-550 spm, I also lost the ability to play on my closest dedicated server. If connection is king, then I should always play on my local dedicated server, but after the update I was playing on northeastern servers with 90+ ping. Thankfully they were quick to undo whatever they tweaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7Legit Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Personally, my opinion on the matter (for whatever it's worth) is they can call it whatever they like, that looked and played like SBMM and whilst it was not 100% AW SBMM it was not prioritising connection and I could see that on my Netduma when people connecting to my local dedicated server in Melbourne, Victoria were from places as far as Indonesia, Hong Kong and even Madagascar! Vonderhaar wants to save face, that's my opinion, they blame a "patch", OK, blame a patch, what we all should be more concerned with is the current scrub based match making is going and 3arc want something else in its place and so far it looks and quacks like SBMM. It's not important if we agree or disagree on what "it" was, the important part here is we should be concerned as to what we would have had if the patch worked as they intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psygn Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 lol, yea... but he pretty much confirms that the tweak accidentally created sbmm. I can absolutely confirm that it was back with full force for about 24 hours, which he also confirmed. Not only did everyone in my lobbies have anywhere from 2-5 kds and 350-550 spm, I also lost the ability to play on my closest dedicated server. If connection is king, then I should always play on my local dedicated server, but after the update I was playing on northeastern servers with 90+ ping. Thankfully they were quick to undo whatever they tweaked. Agreed. There was no way in hell that a bunch of 2.5kd and 3.5kd randoms would be in one lobby together with me (417spm 4.17kd in TDM) in a connection-only based lobby and also appearing across multiple lobbies with the same players. That's SBMM-tier where you saw the same names when you're the top 1% in stats. The chances of that happening are next to none in a player pool as big as BO3. Most players with those kind of stats are in parties but we noticed that most players were not in parties in our lobbies while retaining these high stats. The competition was way better than usual and played with the best weapon/attachments and good player moves (peeking, jumpshotting, etc.). It was pretty apparent on our end and after testing 20 matches between us, the lowest ratio player was a .99kd. I wish I took screenshots to prove that whatever unintended consequences there were, it took longer to find matches and was placing highly skilled players together (multiple 2.5kd+ ratio players NOT in a party). My brother (415spm 4.07kd) was the first to post on Reddit asking others if they were experiencing what felt like SBMM, since we wanted to hear from others beyond our own experiences. Here's the kicker: Only one person brought SBMM up after it's release and he was laughed at. When my brother brought it up, people were fearing the same and responded that they were seeing better players than usual. Also another point, there are a lot of "good" players going after challenges and thus their stats are lower and NOT indicative of their skills in-game but the matchmaking algorithm doesn't know otherwise. These people probably felt little to no change compared to the ones chasing high stats and not caring for challenges. And when they reverted the hotfix, suddenly people were saying that SBMM was removed and noticing that the lobby leaderboards had the usual stat players with many players at 1kd, a few above and a few below. Once every 10 to 15 lobbies you'll see a 2kd+ player and often in a party. While Vonderhaar stated that he wouldn't deliberately add SBMM, he did mention "unintended consequences" and for truly exceptional players with high stats, it felt like SBMM of AW. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'll call it for what it is whether it was part of his "unintended consequences". Remember that my brother and I were testing before he even broke the question on Reddit and he's not the type to question things unless he's pretty damn sure of it as the idea of SBMM this far after release sounds ridiculous in itself. There probably were people who were just parroting this as an excuse for their poor games, but remember that we were asking this to each other before we went online to ask if others were experiencing the same, and instead of getting laughed at plenty of people agreed. I always look at the lobby leaderboards as I like to stroke my own e-penis (lol) and see my name at the top and see how others compare. I look at it every time. I know when things are changed. Whatever unintended consequences there were, it definitely felt like SBMM to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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