CRarsenxL Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 2:55 PM, fiefo said: I believe I am getting lost UDP packets as well. Ping is fine but my hit reg/hit detection is so off that something has to be off. How can I fix this? Measure it or? @Netduma Alex @blackfirehawk Any tips to measure UDP packet flow from ps4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Alex Posted August 13, 2020 Administrators Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 10:39 PM, Phantomblu said: I found out long story short that the problem is congestion at the nodes before getting to the game servers. This door congestion has packet delays. Beware delays, not loss. The field tests I did by connecting to Mudfish Proxy choosing the nodes to be tested .Netduma routers are not the cause. However, instead of giving precedence to the UDP protocol I gave precedence to TCP and I had a more than positive response . It was time. Congestion Control on DumaOS is designed to fix the packet queuing problem. I'll explain how it works below. Apologies for the long post but it sounds like you want a more in-depth explanation. The Congestion Control slider will essentially reduce your bandwidth, which on its own would be useless, but when combined with Traffic Prioritization, it becomes a powerful tool. It may seem counter-intuitive to reduce your bandwidth when you're attempting to reduce your ping, but it makes sense when you understand why we're doing it. Somewhere along the line between your router and the server you're trying to connect to, there will be a bottleneck where traffic is having to queue. This means that traffic is being delayed because of a factor outside of your home, and therefore outside of your control. The idea behind Congestion Control is that, by reducing your bandwidth slightly, the bottleneck moves from outside of your home to inside your home. Now that the bottleneck is on your router, you can manipulate the queue of traffic, moving the most important (time-sensitive) traffic to the front. So, in order to have the best QoS setup, you need to use Congestion Control and Traffic Prioritization together. The first step is to add your gaming device to Traffic Prioritization using the correct profile. If you're using a games console, use the Games Console profile. If it's a PC, choose the specific game you're playing. If your game is not present, contact Netduma Support for advice. You have to be careful to prioritize as little as possible, because the more you prioritize, the less effective it will be. For most people, DumaOS Classified Games will cover what they need, but it's always best to be as selective as possible. To be clear: DumaOS Classified Games covers all of the games in the profiles list, and all UDP traffic from Games Consoles. If you want to experiment, you can choose to prioritize specific ports using the Advanced tab. This will not be as accurate as a custom DumaOS games profile, because we use advanced Deep Packet Inspection technology to pick out the exact packets for each game, but if we haven't yet got your game in the list, this is the next best thing. In the Congestion Control side menu, you need to enter your maximum bandwidth values. I would suggest using the AUTO DETECT function when your internet connection is relatively idle, and at a non-peak time of day. You want to enter the best speeds you have ever recorded on your connection. It doesn't matter if it's a few Mb off, so feel free to round up to the nearest 10. Now for the Congestion Control sliders. We have a new Auto Detection function feature in DumaOS 3.0 which will automate the process of finding the "sweet spot" on the sliders. Switch your Congestion Control sliders to Auto-Enable, then click Auto-Detect. You can choose to Prioritize Ping or to Prioritize Bandwidth. This option will adjust how aggressive the test is. I would suggest starting with Prioritize Ping, and if your bandwidth results are unreasonably low, try again with Prioritize Bandwidth. The test will take a few minutes, and when it's done it will make a suggestion for slider placement. Once these values are saved/entered, your bandwidth will be reduced to this level when the rules you have entered in Traffic Prio are triggered. From this point onwards you shouldn't need to touch QoS very much, just make sure that Traffic Prio triggers when you play a game, and make sure that you're not experiencing lag anymore. If you are, try lowering the sliders a little bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
designerema Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 8:14 PM, WilliamCL57 said: I have found that enabling IPv6 is actually allowing me to connect with pings around 50ms less than usual. 120ms average ->60-70ms average. I don't understand why this is happening, but disabling it returns to the high ping. Neither CoD MW or PS4 officially support IPv6, so could this be the proxy servers that are used to connect to Warzone causing this improvement? I have also gotten 30ms ping matches now while using it. I tested this within 2 hours of each other across multiple days in the 3pm-5pm PST range. I know IPv6 doesn't work well with DumaOS at the moment, but could someone explain the technical reason why this is working? I went an entire day with is disabled again and I never saw lower than 90ms ping. Re-enable and I was back down the 60ms in my next match.. Proof it works. I took this with it enabled. i wanna try this on my xr300 to see if i get a ping lower than 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRarsenxL Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 The issue I feel with the xr300 is that the light ticks on and off randomly. It seems download and upload get measured at different times as well. Is the XR300 gunna get Duma os 3.0 whne XR500 gets it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 14, 2020 Administrators Share Posted August 14, 2020 4 hours ago, fiefo said: The issue I feel with the xr300 is that the light ticks on and off randomly. It seems download and upload get measured at different times as well. Is the XR300 gunna get Duma os 3.0 whne XR500 gets it? The XR500 is in beta now so not exactly then but we are working hard to get it tested and released as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaiyoabc Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 4:55 PM, Netduma Alex said: Congestion Control on DumaOS is designed to fix the packet queuing problem. I'll explain how it works below. Apologies for the long post but it sounds like you want a more in-depth explanation. The Congestion Control slider will essentially reduce your bandwidth, which on its own would be useless, but when combined with Traffic Prioritization, it becomes a powerful tool. It may seem counter-intuitive to reduce your bandwidth when you're attempting to reduce your ping, but it makes sense when you understand why we're doing it. Somewhere along the line between your router and the server you're trying to connect to, there will be a bottleneck where traffic is having to queue. This means that traffic is being delayed because of a factor outside of your home, and therefore outside of your control. The idea behind Congestion Control is that, by reducing your bandwidth slightly, the bottleneck moves from outside of your home to inside your home. Now that the bottleneck is on your router, you can manipulate the queue of traffic, moving the most important (time-sensitive) traffic to the front. So, in order to have the best QoS setup, you need to use Congestion Control and Traffic Prioritization together. The first step is to add your gaming device to Traffic Prioritization using the correct profile. If you're using a games console, use the Games Console profile. If it's a PC, choose the specific game you're playing. If your game is not present, contact Netduma Support for advice. You have to be careful to prioritize as little as possible, because the more you prioritize, the less effective it will be. For most people, DumaOS Classified Games will cover what they need, but it's always best to be as selective as possible. To be clear: DumaOS Classified Games covers all of the games in the profiles list, and all UDP traffic from Games Consoles. If you want to experiment, you can choose to prioritize specific ports using the Advanced tab. This will not be as accurate as a custom DumaOS games profile, because we use advanced Deep Packet Inspection technology to pick out the exact packets for each game, but if we haven't yet got your game in the list, this is the next best thing. In the Congestion Control side menu, you need to enter your maximum bandwidth values. I would suggest using the AUTO DETECT function when your internet connection is relatively idle, and at a non-peak time of day. You want to enter the best speeds you have ever recorded on your connection. It doesn't matter if it's a few Mb off, so feel free to round up to the nearest 10. Now for the Congestion Control sliders. We have a new Auto Detection function feature in DumaOS 3.0 which will automate the process of finding the "sweet spot" on the sliders. Switch your Congestion Control sliders to Auto-Enable, then click Auto-Detect. You can choose to Prioritize Ping or to Prioritize Bandwidth. This option will adjust how aggressive the test is. I would suggest starting with Prioritize Ping, and if your bandwidth results are unreasonably low, try again with Prioritize Bandwidth. The test will take a few minutes, and when it's done it will make a suggestion for slider placement. Once these values are saved/entered, your bandwidth will be reduced to this level when the rules you have entered in Traffic Prio are triggered. From this point onwards you shouldn't need to touch QoS very much, just make sure that Traffic Prio triggers when you play a game, and make sure that you're not experiencing lag anymore. If you are, try lowering the sliders a little bit more. Where is auto-enable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 20, 2020 Administrators Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Chaiyoabc said: Where is auto-enable ? Auto-enable is the renamed version of 'When High Priority Traffic Detected'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaiyoabc Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Netduma Fraser said: Auto-enable is the renamed version of 'When High Priority Traffic Detected'. Sry, i meant to ask what auto qos is and where i can find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 20, 2020 Administrators Share Posted August 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, Chaiyoabc said: Sry, i meant to ask what auto qos is and where i can find it The Auto Setup is only on the R2 at the moment but will come to the other routers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I just seen this thread and i wanted to say somthing Cod modern wafare 2019 does indeed use tcp ports I have done a ot of testing and always found it uses ports Between these ranges 50000-65535 tcp But these ports are for source port not destination unlike my previous ports i posted 30000 -45000 udp these was destination ports Heres how you would write them into tp if you want to Source start 50000 end 65535 destination start 3074 end 3075 protocol tcp Very little sata goes through these ports If you look at traffic priortization when playing cod I just thought i would mention it to any one intrested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cussiv Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 10 hours ago, kinel said: I just seen this thread and i wanted to say somthing Cod modern wafare 2019 does indeed use tcp ports I have done a ot of testing and always found it uses ports Between these ranges 50000-65535 tcp But these ports are for source port not destination unlike my previous ports i posted 30000 -45000 udp these was destination ports Heres how you would write them into tp if you want to Source start 50000 end 65535 destination start 3074 end 3075 protocol tcp Very little sata goes through these ports If you look at traffic priortization when playing cod I just thought i would mention it to any one intrested I used to have dst port 30000-45000 udp but I remember my friend said it was better when he 30000-65535 tcp/udp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytran Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 what's the difference between doing the ports vs having console added to traffic prio? isn't it easier just adding the console cause it would cover the ports needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 22, 2020 Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2020 40 minutes ago, johnnytran said: what's the difference between doing the ports vs having console added to traffic prio? isn't it easier just adding the console cause it would cover the ports needed? Yes it is easier that way. Some people feel choosing the ports specifically gives them better gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 7 hours ago, johnnytran said: what's the difference between doing the ports vs having console added to traffic prio? isn't it easier just adding the console cause it would cover the ports needed? Some of us here think it gives us better hit detection when we use custume ports Becaucause we feel it narrows down the ammount of ports As game console adds more ports But i think we only need a ceratain range of ports for best hit detection Btw johhnyran i think you helped me out ages ago in anther forum Headfi .Org It was to do with astro a40 presets i think the user had same user name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytran Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Yep that was me, I remember giving someone a link to presets there I will try disabling the console and using the custom ports, see if I notice a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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