Adding New Games and Applications to DumaOS

[Jermsz]

@DARKNESS Think I have a mirroring switch lying around here somewhere. I'll set it up. 

[DARKNESS]

@Jermsz

Follow your port mirroring manual instructions then set the IP of the console and then the router IP and see what information is being provided as the game is running in the background.

@Netduma FraserSo that's something that can be updated for those that are incorrectly providing files as it easier to comprehend and see if it actually working by looking at information that is easy to read. I say this because I checked certain files and there not doing it correctly and no-one has said a beep about that...

• https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/527/ - Can use as reference for port mirroring
• https://jam.dev/c/ec6b8094-d02d-4941-a137-a68a37d4a2f2 - Video

[Jermsz]

Can we add zoom contact center to the list? I use it for work for calls but when I get a call, it doesn't trigger the VoIP priority I have set in smart boost. I also don't see traffic for Spotify and YouTube music when I stream those. Hoping I have time to add caps from my computer later today. 

[Netduma Fraser]

31 minutes ago, Jermsz said:

Can we add zoom contact center to the list? I use it for work for calls but when I get a call, it doesn't trigger the VoIP priority I have set in smart boost. I also don't see traffic for Spotify and YouTube music when I stream those. Hoping I have time to add caps from my computer later today. 

We can look into that, caps would definitely be helpful thanks!

[TxFrog33]

On 7/7/2023 at 1:32 PM, Tripper said:

• Application name: Halo: The Master Chief Collection
• Device type used for capture: PC
• Any other comments: One is loading up the game, playing the custom game browser, while the other is searching online and playing multiplayer.

Halo MCC Custom Game Browser.pcapng 14.26 MB · 4 downloads Halo MCC Online.pcapng 3.87 MB · 2 downloads

was this ever added the games on Netduma R3? I play this quite regularly and would love to have Halo MCC working. with the GEO and Smart functions as well

[Netduma Fraser]

43 minutes ago, TxFrog33 said:

was this ever added the games on Netduma R3? I play this quite regularly and would love to have Halo MCC working. with the GEO and Smart functions as well

I don't believe so but if you change the PC to a console or use a console anyway it should work

[TxFrog33]

1 hour ago, Netduma Fraser said:

I don't believe so but if you change the PC to a console or use a console anyway it should work

ok Il try changing pc to console I def don't use any console anymore lol

[Tripper]

2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

I don't believe so but if you change the PC to a console or use a console anyway it should work

@Netduma FraserStill comes up with Unknown with console 

 

[Netduma Fraser]

1 hour ago, Tripper said:

@Netduma FraserStill comes up with Unknown with console 

I meant more so for the Geo-Filter it should still filter

[Jermsz]

• Application name: YouTube Music Web Player, Spotify Desktop App, Spotify Web Player
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 Laptop
• Any other comments: This traffic was showing as unknown, so hoping to add this to the DPI, for the online elements, Chrome browser was used.

Spotify Web Player 2.pcapng Spotify Web Player 1.pcapng Spotify Desktop App 2 .pcapng Spotify Desktop App 1.pcapng Youtube Music 2.pcapng Youtube Music 1.pcapng

[Jermsz]

• Application name: Amazon Prime Video
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 Laptop
• Any other comments: This traffic was not lighting up the Amazon Prime Video button in smart boost so hoping to add this to the DPI; chrome browser was used. I think I had twitch playing on another tab so I apologize for that.

Prime Video 2.pcapng Prime Video 1.pcapng

[Jermsz]

• Application name: Global Protect
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 Laptop
• Any other comments: This is a VPN that I use when I work from home connected via the IPSec protocol. So I guess it would classify under work from home/VPN

Global Protect 2.pcapng Global Protect 1.pcapng

[Jermsz]

• Application name: Windows Update
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 Laptop
• Any other comments: Was downloading the most recent update and saw the traffic was showing as unknown in smartboost

Windows Update 4.pcapng Windows Update 1.pcapng

[Jermsz]

• Application name: Streameast  & Methstreams
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 Laptop
• Any other comments: Websites that are used from streaming sports, just want to make sure that they get recognized by smartboost so they can be prioritzed.

Streameast 1.pcapng Streameast 2.pcapng Methstreams 1 .pcapng Methstreams 2.pcapng

[Jermsz]

• Application name: Zoom Contact Center & Bomgar
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 Laptop
• Any other comments: Zoom Contact Center is used for for calls (VoIP) Bomgar is remote software I use to remote into users machines. This is basically work from home traffic.

Zoom Contact Center 2.pcapng Zoom Contact Center 1.pcapng Bomgar 2.pcapng Bomgar 1.pcapng

[Netduma Fraser]

Super helpful, thanks a lot!

[V1k1]

Hi,

Valorant seems to be a hit or miss being detected in its existing Activity under Gaming (or Valorant activity itself).

• Application name: VALORANT-Win64-Shipping.exe (Riot games Launcher -> Launching the primary Valorant exe)
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 on PC desktop, hardwires, closed other apps.
• Any other comments: Not using xbox gamepass. DumaOS R3 latest beta firmware since October '24, R3 is brand new. PC was labeled as PC device, had issues. Relabeled as game console, same issues. I noticed when it does detect the first game of the day, once I go back to the main menu and requeue, the Valorant/Gaming Activity stays offline. Relaunching doesn't bring it back as active for smartboost. Riotgames/Valorant does have a webpage on what ports they use. Maybe this will be a good resource on top of the files. I really want valorant to always be detected when myself and/or wife are playing on separate PCs.

Valorant menu to matchmaking to a few rounds in game.pcapng valorant end of swiftplay to menu and back to a swift play 2 rounds in.pcapng

[Netduma Fraser]

14 hours ago, V1k1 said:

Hi,

Valorant seems to be a hit or miss being detected in its existing Activity under Gaming (or Valorant activity itself).

• Application name: VALORANT-Win64-Shipping.exe (Riot games Launcher -> Launching the primary Valorant exe)
• Device type used for capture: Win 11 on PC desktop, hardwires, closed other apps.
• Any other comments: Not using xbox gamepass. DumaOS R3 latest beta firmware since October '24, R3 is brand new. PC was labeled as PC device, had issues. Relabeled as game console, same issues. I noticed when it does detect the first game of the day, once I go back to the main menu and requeue, the Valorant/Gaming Activity stays offline. Relaunching doesn't bring it back as active for smartboost. Riotgames/Valorant does have a webpage on what ports they use. Maybe this will be a good resource on top of the files. I really want valorant to always be detected when myself and/or wife are playing on separate PCs.

Valorant menu to matchmaking to a few rounds in game.pcapng 22.92 MB · 0 downloads valorant end of swiftplay to menu and back to a swift play 2 rounds in.pcapng 24.22 MB · 0 downloads

Thank you, I've passed it on!

[V1k1]

7 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Thank you, I've passed it on!

Thank you!

When this is received and passed over to the team, how long does it typically take (outside of holidays) to be added to the DPI self-learning engine to where users would see this reflected in SmartBoost/DumaOS?

Is it months? Weeks? I know there won't be a set date for every case. I'm asking if it's looked at frequently enough or does it lag behind for months and months. Does someone scrub through new wireshark uploads weekly, analyze it then sync it?

Just curious how fast this type of support is, assuming we've provided what Netduma needs (the files and anything else).

I'm also looking to see if I can utilize wireshark/other programs to only look at packets related to a program so it doesn't have any other packets in the file - maybe this would help identify it faster on your end.

[Netduma Fraser]

59 minutes ago, V1k1 said:

Thank you!

When this is received and passed over to the team, how long does it typically take (outside of holidays) to be added to the DPI self-learning engine to where users would see this reflected in SmartBoost/DumaOS?

Is it months? Weeks? I know there won't be a set date for every case. I'm asking if it's looked at frequently enough or does it lag behind for months and months. Does someone scrub through new wireshark uploads weekly, analyze it then sync it?

Just curious how fast this type of support is, assuming we've provided what Netduma needs (the files and anything else).

I'm also looking to see if I can utilize wireshark/other programs to only look at packets related to a program so it doesn't have any other packets in the file - maybe this would help identify it faster on your end.

I really can't give you a satisfying answer, it depends how popular the game is, whether we need to test in addition to the captures, the workload of the person who does it etc. It can lag behind, I do my best to nudge along to keep it ticking. 

[V1k1]

Fraser and Netduma team, after wireshark, I stumbled across a program called NetLimiter.

Under Activity it looks like you can right click one of your programs, click Connection History, and it shows some nice info pertaining to IP addresses and Ports that it's using.

Could something like this ever be utilized if we export the .CSV file of this page?

Not sure if it seems more or less direct that Wireshark, as to me, it appears to be showing connection info tied to the specific .exe.

Or I wonder if users can take this and add it to an existing Activity or a manual activity that we can set in SmartBoost as needed. Then we won't have to pester the Netduma team

Figured to just spitball here. I could be completely wrong that this data would be of any use. Neat program either way!

[Fuzy]

Hi ! for information:
you can already see all this information in smartboost/parameter/stats for nerds, without needing to add any third party software.

[Netduma Fraser]

6 hours ago, V1k1 said:

Fraser and Netduma team, after wireshark, I stumbled across a program called NetLimiter.

Under Activity it looks like you can right click one of your programs, click Connection History, and it shows some nice info pertaining to IP addresses and Ports that it's using.

Could something like this ever be utilized if we export the .CSV file of this page?

Not sure if it seems more or less direct that Wireshark, as to me, it appears to be showing connection info tied to the specific .exe.

Or I wonder if users can take this and add it to an existing Activity or a manual activity that we can set in SmartBoost as needed. Then we won't have to pester the Netduma team

Figured to just spitball here. I could be completely wrong that this data would be of any use. Neat program either way!

You can see that info above as well though of course if it's unidentified then it'll stay that way. It's a good idea but we're less interested in IP addresses and ports really. I haven't used that program but as we inspect the packets specifically I'm not sure if it would help as much, plus we're Wireshark pros at this point!

[V1k1]

I understand and have seen the stats for nerds page. Unidentified doesn't really tell me which activity ports are which, unless it's a hunch.

What I meant was using NetLimiter to click a specific .exe and see exactly which parts are being used, then I could go into the router and manually add those ports for said program and put it let's say under "gaming" activity. 

Otherwise it seems we need to still submit to the Netduma team and it may lag behind, when having the option to do it ourselves may be beneficial. I can do this on the Asus AX11000 Router via Asus Merlin/FlexQoS. Just would be nice to be able to do it here on the R3.

I'm excited for what's to come with the R3 either way!

[Netduma Fraser]

14 hours ago, V1k1 said:

I understand and have seen the stats for nerds page. Unidentified doesn't really tell me which activity ports are which, unless it's a hunch.

What I meant was using NetLimiter to click a specific .exe and see exactly which parts are being used, then I could go into the router and manually add those ports for said program and put it let's say under "gaming" activity. 

Otherwise it seems we need to still submit to the Netduma team and it may lag behind, when having the option to do it ourselves may be beneficial. I can do this on the Asus AX11000 Router via Asus Merlin/FlexQoS. Just would be nice to be able to do it here on the R3.

I'm excited for what's to come with the R3 either way!

I'm all for the idea, it would help me and the customers a lot, I can put it forth as a request but couldn't say when/if it might happen. Hopefully this next update is a good middle ground for the time being.