sal111 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hey guys im having so many questionable deaths in IW im seriously considering ditching this game and moving on to BF here is a quick list of common (very common issues i have in game) before i go on any further ill say that i do have a great gaming connection or at least good enough to play call of duty : 80 meg down - 20 meg up / 8ms ping (from the net duma diagnosis test, 8 ms from speed test and ping test with 1 ms jitter) / 7 ms ping to google from laptop using cmd. A+ for buffer bloat, A+ for quality with a 10 ms ping using dsl buffer bloat test tool do technically i shouldn't have these issues. ( id just like to add i didnt have these issues on Ghost and to a much lesser extent on blackops 3, advanced warfare, battlefield 3 and battlefield 4. 1) The issue isnt the obvious choppy lag but instead scenarios such as i see an enemy slide to cover and get killed behind the wall. Then watch the usual bs of kill cam showing me dying before reaching the wall let along getting behind it. 2) Get into one on one engagement on my screen i aim and get first shot off but die instantly i cant begin to describe how quick i die yet on the kill cam the hit registration thing they have it says the guy hit me 6 times which is insane. 3) Going off point two 1 get into a one on one with a suppressed NV4 i go in with an unpressed Karma on my screen i get off first shot and again die insanely quick AN smg getting out gunned by a suppressed NV4 at point blank range im just in awe of the situation and logic of COD even though i put like 13 - 15 bullets into him (a game which people say 4 - 5 hit deaths) 4) Point one reverse scenario catch someone off guard start shooting get hit markers they run behind cover oddly i still get a hit marker so i assume they are one or two hits max start making my way towards him we both meet and shoot i die .... yet on the kill cam i can see his screen was already red from the previous engagement yet some how he still managed to melt me even with an AR vS an SMG at point blank range. 5) The laggy 4 bar players - near impossible to kill these guys but they melt you without any trouble and even on their kill cam you can see they skipping along the map and destroy you instantly this isnt how a game should work.... 6) underwater warfare this is a little hard to explain the only way i can describe it is like moving underwater i see people fly through the air chaining kills without any issue double / triple kills and move on and in some lobbies i do as well everything i try works and i can destroy people but 80% of the time it seems like im moving slower than everyone else its really difficult to describe but in these games a lot of the issues ive decried above happens. I am not new to Cod and nor am i new to IW ive played it so much during the beta and it was a whole different experience 95% of the games ran so smooth and i was killing people as quickly as they were killing me and i was okay with that but the full game it feels like i need at least 5 - 8 more bullets to confirm kills and the time to kill is nowhere near as quick as my time to death .... Like i said i get the odd really good connection but unfortunately its very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonchine Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think a lot of people are having your exact experience. I don't know how many times I came up behind an enemy that turned around and killed me. You are using a Netduma, I assume? I'm getting inconsistent matches with it. Meaning for 3-4 minutes of a match I'm getting triple and fury kills, then the next couple of minutes I'm getting insta-killed by players using SMGs from sniping ranges. I've tried everything with the Duma....throttling, changing ping assist, changing my geo radius smaller, bigger, etc. Then I tried connecting directly to my modem and bypassing the Netduma all together. Now I'm getting more consistent matches. Still getting some lag here and there, but at least it's not the back and forth crap. I don't know if IW has something in their matchmaking system that just doesn't jive with the Geo-filter or what, but it just isn't working for me. Ultimately I went back to using the Duma without the Geo-filter, and it works like running directly to a modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frustrated Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I've been playing all weekend, and it's been so far I'd say tolerable haha. But you do get the shoot first die last quite often and instant melt, I never have the Geo on its always off, today it's played perfect honestly even I've been amazed, the 4 bar connection means nothing absolutely nothing.. I think I've said this before this lag or hot detection issues is part of it I think they want this in the game so we all get a share of it ..that's what I think. It's those French argghh..laggy monkey's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli Falafel Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hey guys im having so many questionable deaths in IW im seriously considering ditching this game and moving on to BF here is a quick list of common (very common issues i have in game) before i go on any further ill say that i do have a great gaming connection or at least good enough to play call of duty : 80 meg down - 20 meg up / 8ms ping (from the net duma diagnosis test, 8 ms from speed test and ping test with 1 ms jitter) / 7 ms ping to google from laptop using cmd. A+ for buffer bloat, A+ for quality with a 10 ms ping using dsl buffer bloat test tool do technically i shouldn't have these issues. ( id just like to add i didnt have these issues on Ghost and to a much lesser extent on blackops 3, advanced warfare, battlefield 3 and battlefield 4. 1) The issue isnt the obvious choppy lag but instead scenarios such as i see an enemy slide to cover and get killed behind the wall. Then watch the usual bs of kill cam showing me dying before reaching the wall let along getting behind it. 2) Get into one on one engagement on my screen i aim and get first shot off but die instantly i cant begin to describe how quick i die yet on the kill cam the hit registration thing they have it says the guy hit me 6 times which is insane. 3) Going off point two 1 get into a one on one with a suppressed NV4 i go in with an unpressed Karma on my screen i get off first shot and again die insanely quick AN smg getting out gunned by a suppressed NV4 at point blank range im just in awe of the situation and logic of COD even though i put like 13 - 15 bullets into him (a game which people say 4 - 5 hit deaths) 4) Point one reverse scenario catch someone off guard start shooting get hit markers they run behind cover oddly i still get a hit marker so i assume they are one or two hits max start making my way towards him we both meet and shoot i die .... yet on the kill cam i can see his screen was already red from the previous engagement yet some how he still managed to melt me even with an AR vS an SMG at point blank range. 5) The laggy 4 bar players - near impossible to kill these guys but they melt you without any trouble and even on their kill cam you can see they skipping along the map and destroy you instantly this isnt how a game should work.... 6) underwater warfare this is a little hard to explain the only way i can describe it is like moving underwater i see people fly through the air chaining kills without any issue double / triple kills and move on and in some lobbies i do as well everything i try works and i can destroy people but 80% of the time it seems like im moving slower than everyone else its really difficult to describe but in these games a lot of the issues ive decried above happens. I am not new to Cod and nor am i new to IW ive played it so much during the beta and it was a whole different experience 95% of the games ran so smooth and i was killing people as quickly as they were killing me and i was okay with that but the full game it feels like i need at least 5 - 8 more bullets to confirm kills and the time to kill is nowhere near as quick as my time to death .... Like i said i get the odd really good connection but unfortunately its very rare. throttling your upload only so you have 1.5mb at your PS4 or Xbox. download leave it alone. uptick share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal111 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think a lot of people are having your exact experience. I don't know how many times I came up behind an enemy that turned around and killed me. You are using a Netduma, I assume? I'm getting inconsistent matches with it. Meaning for 3-4 minutes of a match I'm getting triple and fury kills, then the next couple of minutes I'm getting insta-killed by players using SMGs from sniping ranges. I've tried everything with the Duma....throttling, changing ping assist, changing my geo radius smaller, bigger, etc. Then I tried connecting directly to my modem and bypassing the Netduma all together. Now I'm getting more consistent matches. Still getting some lag here and there, but at least it's not the back and forth crap. I don't know if IW has something in their matchmaking system that just doesn't jive with the Geo-filter or what, but it just isn't working for me. Ultimately I went back to using the Duma without the Geo-filter, and it works like running directly to a modem. this is very interesting i was going to say this but left it out as i thought people would have laughed it off! Yes the connection changes in game!!! start off really bad getting melted and towards the end it picks up and i end up making up that KD but usually its too late as theres hardly any kills left or i start off amazingly then suddenly start experiencing what i mentioned in op its so strange sometimes you finish a game and it has amazing connection so stay in the lobby not much change maybe 1 or two players but then suddenly it all goes to hell the lag kicks in and its like playing a whole different game yet the duma tells me the host hasnt changed and its the same server .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hey guys im having so many questionable deaths in IW im seriously considering ditching this game and moving on to BF here is a quick list of common (very common issues i have in game) before i go on any further ill say that i do have a great gaming connection or at least good enough to play call of duty : 80 meg down - 20 meg up / 8ms ping (from the net duma diagnosis test, 8 ms from speed test and ping test with 1 ms jitter) / 7 ms ping to google from laptop using cmd. A+ for buffer bloat, A+ for quality with a 10 ms ping using dsl buffer bloat test tool do technically i shouldn't have these issues. ( id just like to add i didnt have these issues on Ghost and to a much lesser extent on blackops 3, advanced warfare, battlefield 3 and battlefield 4. 1) The issue isnt the obvious choppy lag but instead scenarios such as i see an enemy slide to cover and get killed behind the wall. Then watch the usual bs of kill cam showing me dying before reaching the wall let along getting behind it. 2) Get into one on one engagement on my screen i aim and get first shot off but die instantly i cant begin to describe how quick i die yet on the kill cam the hit registration thing they have it says the guy hit me 6 times which is insane. 3) Going off point two 1 get into a one on one with a suppressed NV4 i go in with an unpressed Karma on my screen i get off first shot and again die insanely quick AN smg getting out gunned by a suppressed NV4 at point blank range im just in awe of the situation and logic of COD even though i put like 13 - 15 bullets into him (a game which people say 4 - 5 hit deaths) 4) Point one reverse scenario catch someone off guard start shooting get hit markers they run behind cover oddly i still get a hit marker so i assume they are one or two hits max start making my way towards him we both meet and shoot i die .... yet on the kill cam i can see his screen was already red from the previous engagement yet some how he still managed to melt me even with an AR vS an SMG at point blank range. 5) The laggy 4 bar players - near impossible to kill these guys but they melt you without any trouble and even on their kill cam you can see they skipping along the map and destroy you instantly this isnt how a game should work.... 6) underwater warfare this is a little hard to explain the only way i can describe it is like moving underwater i see people fly through the air chaining kills without any issue double / triple kills and move on and in some lobbies i do as well everything i try works and i can destroy people but 80% of the time it seems like im moving slower than everyone else its really difficult to describe but in these games a lot of the issues ive decried above happens. I am not new to Cod and nor am i new to IW ive played it so much during the beta and it was a whole different experience 95% of the games ran so smooth and i was killing people as quickly as they were killing me and i was okay with that but the full game it feels like i need at least 5 - 8 more bullets to confirm kills and the time to kill is nowhere near as quick as my time to death .... Like i said i get the odd really good connection but unfortunately its very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipknot31286sic6 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Could. Try this. Click misc, lan, scroll down to mtu, disable and manually put in 576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Could. Try this. Click misc, lan, scroll down to mtu, disable and manually put in 576 Misinformation. Last warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 im having so many questionable deaths in IW post up a vid for us to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal111 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 post up a vid for us to see? ill get one tonight (dont have recording equipment so ill use the ps4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted November 28, 2016 Administrators Share Posted November 28, 2016 What's the average ping you're getting as shown by the duma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonchine Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 this is very interesting i was going to say this but left it out as i thought people would have laughed it off! Yes the connection changes in game!!! start off really bad getting melted and towards the end it picks up and i end up making up that KD but usually its too late as theres hardly any kills left or i start off amazingly then suddenly start experiencing what i mentioned in op its so strange sometimes you finish a game and it has amazing connection so stay in the lobby not much change maybe 1 or two players but then suddenly it all goes to hell the lag kicks in and its like playing a whole different game yet the duma tells me the host hasnt changed and its the same server .... Yep. Getting the exact same thing. I'd suggest turning off any Host Filtering services of the Netduma for now, until it starts working better with this game. At least that's what I've done and am getting more stable matches now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidemaquina Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Iv also disables netduma for IW at this moment, sometimes it works others doesnt. Unstable.Like iv said before, DumaOS update should focus Gaming Host Filter options and cloud host database updated by other netdumas without even noticing. Improving all Hosts and Locations in a glimpse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtK24 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Usually have a few games a night exactly like this on IW and MWR. Gets very frustrating. I live near Chicago and I always pull the Dedi in Chicago and St. Louis. And most players in that lobby are usually from that region. I have a couple friends who live in Texas and when they host they never pull the Texas server that was there in BO3. They always connect to Seattle or NY and sometimes Georgia(not sure this is a dedi). My theory right now is the servers are overloaded, but what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted November 28, 2016 Netduma Staff Share Posted November 28, 2016 Usually have a few games a night exactly like this on IW and MWR. Gets very frustrating. I live near Chicago and I always pull the Dedi in Chicago and St. Louis. And most players in that lobby are usually from that region. I have a couple friends who live in Texas and when they host they never pull the Texas server that was there in BO3. They always connect to Seattle or NY and sometimes Georgia(not sure this is a dedi). My theory right now is the servers are overloaded, but what do I know? I've responded to your separate thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal111 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 What's the average ping you're getting as shown by the duma? when i run the DUMA diagnostics i get like 7ms to 8 ms when i join lobbies it varies but usually ranges between 13 - 20 ms to the server then player pings vary... Ping side my connection is usually stable and low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipknot31286sic6 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Yep. Getting the exact same thing. I'd suggest turning off any Host Filtering services of the Netduma for now, until it starts working better with this game. At least that's what I've done and am getting more stable matches now.Better watch they might ban u for recommending that one lol. I don't use geo filter either. Jus join on other ppl when party up and don't host lobby. Play on a server far away. Don't play on close server. Everything is backwards unlike bo3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonchine Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I am having the opposite affect. Playing BO3 on a host 3 states away worked best for me, now playing close by is better for IW. I'm just using the ping host feature of the geo filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted November 29, 2016 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2016 when i run the DUMA diagnostics i get like 7ms to 8 ms when i join lobbies it varies but usually ranges between 13 - 20 ms to the server then player pings vary... Ping side my connection is usually stable and low. 13-20ms for a game ping is fantastic, you definitely shouldn't be experiencing any issues. Looks like the duma is doing it's job of getting low ping lobbies. Better watch they might ban u for recommending that one lol. I don't use geo filter either. Jus join on other ppl when party up and don't host lobby. Play on a server far away. Don't play on close server. Everything is backwards unlike bo3. Firstly, you haven't been banned so even your joke is misleading. You were warned for providing misleading information - which you do frequently. Recent example changing MTU to 576 which is terrible advice. This is a support forum - why would we not warn you for providing misleading information? It only serves to slow down potential solutions for others. Other people provide suggestions such as disabling the Geo-filter - which is fine, I wouldn't recommend it but it's their router to do what they want with and find what works for them. You however provide advice as though it is a fact - which it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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