nollies1 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I'm in a new residence and have set up my gaming rig slightly different than the old one. I am versed in all the basic concepts, familiar with my modem and router/Duma etc. settings, general network setup, and all that jazz. I'm stuck here and am in need of advice/input. To be sure I didn't miss/overlook anything, I walked myself through both the wiki guide as well as a few things in the 'knowledge base' section up here... including 'simple' things like swapping out ethernet cables, tinkering with enabling/disabling IPv6, reactive/preemptive, turbo mode, etc. etc... If/as needed, I will take screen shots, but for now am hoping that I've chimed in on the forums 'enough' per se that hopefully most of you would be comfortable concluding that I've more or less covered the fundamentals here. Maybe Current setup -Modem (SB6141); Comcast cable, 200 package -Duma -All devices in the residence go through the Duma (current total of around 12 devices) So, below will be primarily discussing overall speed test values (vs. ping, which no matter what are ~30 ms) THE ISSUE (in a nutshell), based on at least 6 tests via dslreports speed test; below are average resulting values: 1. laptop (MacBook Pro) directly wired into my modem: 230 Mbps down, 12 Mbps up 2. laptop directly wired to Duma, which is wired into my modem: 230 Mbps down, 12 Mbps up 3. multiple scenarios including the 'standard troubleshooting' up here, followed to the T (hence my post up here seeking other ideas), swapping out various cables, placement of the Duma all over the room, including it being within 6 inches from my laptop: 20 Mbps down (yes, as in twenty), 8 Mbps up My only conclusion so far is two-fold, either (a) somehow I missed something in the walkthroughs(?) or otherwise am not up to speed on the latest troubleshooting tips, or ( is it possible that somehow the Microtek wireless feature took a dump? Lastly, for what it's worth/to help orient, the last step in the wiki/forum knowledge base walkthrough ends with 'try disabling IPv6'... So, if that does not correct for this, any ideas?... where I used to live, I was getting only a slight loss b/w wired vs. wireless (e.g., wired would yield say 180 down, wireless would yield 150 down), which to me is much more understandable. I can't seem to get my head around why at this new place the drop is so extreme. Thanks for reading!!! Regards, -Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yam Yam Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 That's the trouble with WiFi, its too inferior to get a stable test due to too many variables, you can only really test your new environment & compare it to your old setup with a wired connection. You could go a little deeper and change the wireless channel you're currently on as it might be clashing with other wireless signals e.g. electrical curcuits, other modems in the area on the same channel etc etc but apart from that, no one will touch WiFi testing with a 10 foot barge pole as the results are never guaranteed. Edit: Do you have 'Turbo' ticked in the Misc page, this will allow for ISP packages above 50 or 60 mbps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Well first... ditch that SB6141 and get a TC-7610. You'll thank me later. Second, there is no way you were getting 150 Mbps on the Netduma's wifi. Impossible. Third, more than likely it comes down to interference at your new place. Maybe try using a second router as an access point. I recommend the TP-Link Archer C7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'd run a wifi scan and find the least (and hopefully not at all) contested/congested frequency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted June 12, 2017 Netduma Staff Share Posted June 12, 2017 Looks like you've got some great advice above, I would reiterate what they've suggested. Let us know how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm still tinkering and haven't found the 'optimal wireless' settings yet (I know, such the oxymoron ) but will address some of the key comments/inquiries from above. Disclaimer: Thanks to yall above for responding, much appreciated no doubt. 1. ("where I used to live, I was getting only a slight loss b/w wired vs. wireless (e.g., wired would yield say 180 down, wireless would yield 150 down), which to me is much more understandable. I can't seem to get my head around why at this new place the drop is so extreme.") - To clarify, I most certainly did get those numbers... just that it is possible that it wasn't with the Duma/Mikrotek router (sorry for not clarifying; I had two separate lines at the previous place and the other line, also the 150 package, had a nighthawk for the router, and dslreports test for sure gave me about 120-130 down, anyways not at all trying to argue bud, am thankful you reminded me those tests weren't likely with the Duma/M'tek). I've actually hardly used the Duma for anything wireless until this recent move... meanwhile, to your point I'll go and look up that info for knowledge sake (i.e., find out what exactly the theoretical wireless capability the Mikrotek even has. #redinthefacenow), that's a critical starting point here. 2. I've been tinkering with various channels and am still looking to dial in the 'best' one. Been using the network scanner utility thingee on my mac... will keep you posted, for now, I just know that a couple channels are not going to work as there are other nearby networks which are using them, and thus to your point I do not want to risk conflict etc. 3. While for sure wireless is not as stable, I've watched it over here at new place just flat out drop signal all the time, etc. etc. by way of pingplotter... but/still, I was just floored that there was THAT much of a decrease in the speed test values, and, was trying to determine 'how much of that difference' was due to signal issues here at the new place, vs. limitations of the router itselt, and so forth. 4. I'll take a look at the modem cited above for sure... as it's been awhile since I shopped around for what's out there and such, but I should say that I've been perhaps one of the fortunate ones who've never had any major issues with the SB6141, in fact I used one for each of the 2 lines referenced above. The modem that was here at the new place was the (dreaded lol) SBG6580, which was total garbage no matter what I did... hence, I removed it and stuck in its replace one of my 2 SB6141s from the old place. Anyways... good points here and much appreciated. If I make any headway I'll post back here for sure with updates. Thanks! -Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I'm still tinkering and haven't found the 'optimal wireless' settings yet (I know, such the oxymoron ) but will address some of the key comments/inquiries from above. Disclaimer: Thanks to yall above for responding, much appreciated no doubt. 1. ("where I used to live, I was getting only a slight loss b/w wired vs. wireless (e.g., wired would yield say 180 down, wireless would yield 150 down), which to me is much more understandable. I can't seem to get my head around why at this new place the drop is so extreme.") - To clarify, I most certainly did get those numbers... just that it is possible that it wasn't with the Duma/Mikrotek router (sorry for not clarifying; I had two separate lines at the previous place and the other line, also the 150 package, had a nighthawk for the router, and dslreports test for sure gave me about 120-130 down, anyways not at all trying to argue bud, am thankful you reminded me those tests weren't likely with the Duma/M'tek). I've actually hardly used the Duma for anything wireless until this recent move... meanwhile, to your point I'll go and look up that info for knowledge sake (i.e., find out what exactly the theoretical wireless capability the Mikrotek even has. #redinthefacenow), that's a critical starting point here. 2. I've been tinkering with various channels and am still looking to dial in the 'best' one. Been using the network scanner utility thingee on my mac... will keep you posted, for now, I just know that a couple channels are not going to work as there are other nearby networks which are using them, and thus to your point I do not want to risk conflict etc. 3. While for sure wireless is not as stable, I've watched it over here at new place just flat out drop signal all the time, etc. etc. by way of pingplotter... but/still, I was just floored that there was THAT much of a decrease in the speed test values, and, was trying to determine 'how much of that difference' was due to signal issues here at the new place, vs. limitations of the router itselt, and so forth. 4. I'll take a look at the modem cited above for sure... as it's been awhile since I shopped around for what's out there and such, but I should say that I've been perhaps one of the fortunate ones who've never had any major issues with the SB6141, in fact I used one for each of the 2 lines referenced above. The modem that was here at the new place was the (dreaded lol) SBG6580, which was total garbage no matter what I did... hence, I removed it and stuck in its replace one of my 2 SB6141s from the old place. Anyways... good points here and much appreciated. If I make any headway I'll post back here for sure with updates. Thanks! -Q So just put the nighthawk in AP mode and plug it into the Duma for wireless. As for the SB6141... You THINK it works fine, until you use something that actually works. I had the SB6141 too and I will tell you that it works fine sometimes. And that sometimes is almost never. It somehow ignores congestion control allowing certain devices on certain ports to use your full bandwidth no matter what settings you have set. Trust me, go buy the TC-7610 lol Read the whole thing... http://forum.netduma.com/topic/15667-not-sure-what-to-do-here/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollies1 Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 Thanks and good to know about that Re SB6141 issue; will check the link out shortly for sure. I think the nighthawk is either buried in storage or got shipped with my rooommate when we departed so for now that isn't an option unfortunately. I'll post back after some more tinkering. Appreciate your response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Would definitely also recommend the TC-7610 as it is just solid as can be and at a price that won't bust the bank, it matches up very well with the duma. And yes I have one myself and the difference can be described as night and day in stability on my PP results. Most dismiss their modems as an issue when it's suggested but I know a lot of people on this forum who have had issues and switched modems and the issues went away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 20, 2017 Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2017 I haven't weighed in yet and you have advice you can follow already. Probably the max speed I would expect to see through the duma WiFi would be around 85mbps. I would definitely recommend using a router in AP mode to achieve those higher speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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