XR700 Beta Update

[falsinho]

2 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Hey everyone, it's been a long time coming, I feel your pain, the wait is (basically) over!

So we were planning to put the XR700 out today in Early Access, the mobile view you may have seen on the R2 requires the app to have that working on the 700 rather than a mobile web browser, as of now it's looking as though the app will be approved/go out on the respective app stores on Monday so we're holding off on the grand launch until then as without it you're missing a big part of what has gone into the update.

HOWEVER, I know you guys have been waiting for a long time and so I wanted to at least give you something. So, if you absolutely cannot wait until Monday, please post below and I will PM you the firmware. Do keep in mind you'll be missing the updated mobile view which is a big part of it.

I will like your post when I've sent you a PM with it.

Hi Fraser,

Can i test please?

Kind regards.

[ranu007]

3 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Hey everyone, it's been a long time coming, I feel your pain, the wait is (basically) over!

So we were planning to put the XR700 out today in Early Access, the mobile view you may have seen on the R2 requires the app to have that working on the 700 rather than a mobile web browser, as of now it's looking as though the app will be approved/go out on the respective app stores on Monday so we're holding off on the grand launch until then as without it you're missing a big part of what has gone into the update.

HOWEVER, I know you guys have been waiting for a long time and so I wanted to at least give you something. So, if you absolutely cannot wait until Monday, please post below and I will PM you the firmware. Do keep in mind you'll be missing the updated mobile view which is a big part of it.

I will like your post when I've sent you a PM with it.

hey boss,
i wanna test ,please send to me

[xfalax]

QoS problem when try delete rule in Traffic Prioritization

RPC error 'ERROR_NOENT': Rule not found in chain

Edit: Reboot xr700 and now can delete rule.

 

 

 

[Netduma Fraser]

50 minutes ago, xfalax said:

QoS problem when try delete rule in Traffic Prioritization

RPC error 'ERROR_NOENT': Rule not found in chain

OK

 

 

 

Did you do a factory reset after the upgrade?

[Proud R3 Owner]

I noticed when installing the new FW, hard reset doesn't work.  You have to go into the gui and software reset.  Also the BRS setup wizard is still painfully slow. After BRS wizard and setting everything up - going back into the DumaOS apps still gives you the popup for the tour.  The restart seems to take longer but maybe that's a good thing - giving the router longer to load up the Rapps.  All in all it seems like a pretty solid piece of firmware.  I especially appreciate you all willing to throw us XR700 people out here a bone and give us an early access to this.  The pages load quickly and I haven't had any issues so far.  I would just suggest not capping the number of devices in Geofilter, not capping the download/upload speeds to 1000Mbps in QoS and maybe adding a QoS Exempt device like an AP on the Devices App so our wired Access Points aren't capped at what we set QoS speed sliders to. 

[Netduma Fraser]

49 minutes ago, XR700 Owner said:

I noticed when installing the new FW, hard reset doesn't work.  You have to go into the gui and software reset.  Also the BRS setup wizard is still painfully slow. After BRS wizard and setting everything up - going back into the DumaOS apps still gives you the popup for the tour.  The restart seems to take longer but maybe that's a good thing - giving the router longer to load up the Rapps.  All in all it seems like a pretty solid piece of firmware.  I especially appreciate you all willing to throw us XR700 people out here a bone and give us an early access to this.  The pages load quickly and I haven't had any issues so far.  I would just suggest not capping the number of devices in Geofilter, not capping the download/upload speeds to 1000Mbps in QoS and maybe adding a QoS Exempt device like an AP on the Devices App so our wired Access Points aren't capped at what we set QoS speed sliders to. 

If you could check at some point if the hard reset now works after the software reset that would be great. Good points, I'll make a note of them. In regards to the Geo-Filter capping devices, it's already very hard to distinguish which icons refer to which devices when added if they're all being used at the same time, we do have plans to have separate Geo-Filters to resolve this, not sure if that will hit the 700 or not (I don't think it's near ready for any platform). For AP and such, it shouldn't matter as the AP just acts as the bridge to the devices connected to it so they should receive the throttle percentage speed, is that not the case?

[Proud R3 Owner]

It's not the case.  I have 2 separate routers (ax11000 and C5400X) as my AP's  with the wifi disabled on the XR700.  Connecting to these AP's and doing some stress testing of the wifi (just downloads of large files really) I notice that the hardwired AP's are being subject to the QoS.  After that test I decided to set the QoS slider for download to a stupid low number something like 50Mbps and sure enough my speedtest (Even though I was connected at 433Mbps) would only see 50Mbps on the speedtest (Ookla).  As for the seperate icons on the Geo map, I can understand that honestly if people were expecting to see which server was being used by which client.  However, removing and adding, re-removing and re-adding devices does get pretty old after a while.  We don't usually  ever use every single gaming device at the same time but also I don't really look for what server I'm using either as I use geo mainly to simply ping the servers used to deter lag spikes. I'm going to play with the new features a bit more then I'll try to do a hard reset over the weekend.  On a side note - I'm noticing the Youtube channel on my Roku TV's have a buffering/freeze issue once I enabled the Adblocker.  I did add the default list (https://netduma.com/adblocker-lists/default-list.txt) even though the 2 uneditable lists (Ads and Tracking) were already there.  I don't know if I have doubled entries by doing this as I saw this method for the XR1000 that had no entries. 

[Netduma Fraser]

53 minutes ago, XR700 Owner said:

It's not the case.  I have 2 separate routers (ax11000 and C5400X) as my AP's  with the wifi disabled on the XR700.  Connecting to these AP's and doing some stress testing of the wifi (just downloads of large files really) I notice that the hardwired AP's are being subject to the QoS.  After that test I decided to set the QoS slider for download to a stupid low number something like 50Mbps and sure enough my speedtest (Even though I was connected at 433Mbps) would only see 50Mbps on the speedtest (Ookla).  As for the seperate icons on the Geo map, I can understand that honestly if people were expecting to see which server was being used by which client.  However, removing and adding, re-removing and re-adding devices does get pretty old after a while.  We don't usually  ever use every single gaming device at the same time but also I don't really look for what server I'm using either as I use geo mainly to simply ping the servers used to deter lag spikes. I'm going to play with the new features a bit more then I'll try to do a hard reset over the weekend.  On a side note - I'm noticing the Youtube channel on my Roku TV's have a buffering/freeze issue once I enabled the Adblocker.  I did add the default list (https://netduma.com/adblocker-lists/default-list.txt) even though the 2 uneditable lists (Ads and Tracking) were already there.  I don't know if I have doubled entries by doing this as I saw this method for the XR1000 that had no entries. 

That's what I would expect to happen though, the device you're using connected to the AP is restricted to the 50Mbps for example set on Congestion Control, it'll apply network wide, unless I've misunderstood your meaning? 

That makes sense! Yes you've doubled entries so best to remove that, if you add YouTube.com as an allowed/whitelisted domain does it then work on the TV?

[Proud R3 Owner]

The APs themselves are restricted to the QoS restrictions. If I set it to 100 and do a speed test on 2 devices, the sum of both devices are about equal to the total of the restriction (i.e sliders set to 100 - one device gets 70 and the other gets 30) I will whitelist YouTube.com as a domain and see how that works out. I'll post results of that and a hard reset later this weekend.

[robert27841]

13 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Hey everyone, it's been a long time coming, I feel your pain, the wait is (basically) over!

So we were planning to put the XR700 out today in Early Access, the mobile view you may have seen on the R2 requires the app to have that working on the 700 rather than a mobile web browser, as of now it's looking as though the app will be approved/go out on the respective app stores on Monday so we're holding off on the grand launch until then as without it you're missing a big part of what has gone into the update.

HOWEVER, I know you guys have been waiting for a long time and so I wanted to at least give you something. So, if you absolutely cannot wait until Monday, please post below and I will PM you the firmware. Do keep in mind you'll be missing the updated mobile view which is a big part of it.

I will like your post when I've sent you a PM with it.

@Netduma Fraser can I test the new firmware please 

[xfalax]

10 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Did you do a factory reset after the upgrade?

No, only factory reset old firm (Firmware Version 1.0.1.50) them uptade early access. Looks nice but speed test in my Orbi RBR 750 =967 up and 996 down..............xr700=790 up 678 down (Speedtest and Nperf) but Duma Os looks and works well.GG team.

[prince-horus]

Hi Fraser Can i have thé beta firmware for xr700 please

[Netduma Fraser]

5 hours ago, XR700 Owner said:

The APs themselves are restricted to the QoS restrictions. If I set it to 100 and do a speed test on 2 devices, the sum of both devices are about equal to the total of the restriction (i.e sliders set to 100 - one device gets 70 and the other gets 30) I will whitelist YouTube.com as a domain and see how that works out. I'll post results of that and a hard reset later this weekend.

That would happen for 2 devices not connected to the AP though if you see what I mean, so they're not being anymore restricted than they would be if there weren't connected to the AP.

1 hour ago, xfalax said:

No, only factory reset old firm (Firmware Version 1.0.1.50) them uptade early access. Looks nice but speed test in my Orbi RBR 750 =967 up and 996 down..............xr700=790 up 678 down (Speedtest and Nperf) but Duma Os looks and works well.GG team.

Always best to do the factory reset after, especially when there have been some major changes, try that and then see. Glad to hear it's working well other than that though!

[bebito_fiufiu]

Solicito el nuevo firmware, gracias.

[robert27841]

Thanks 🙏 @Netduma Fraser he be like 

[Proud R3 Owner]

Adding YouTube.com to the whitelist domain did not fix the issue. 

[Netduma Fraser]

7 hours ago, XR700 Owner said:

Adding YouTube.com to the whitelist domain did not fix the issue. 

Try these URLs specifically instead:

• ads.youtube.com
• fcmatch.youtube.com
• s2.youtube.com

[Proud R3 Owner]

I wonder if the system would recognize something like *.YouTube.com

[Proud R3 Owner]

Ok so I've added everything mentioned, even *. YouTube.com and the issue still remains. All RokuTV YouTube channels freeze with a buffering circle or black screen. 

[Proud R3 Owner]

Looking at the blocked log for multiple RokuTV's in the house the most I get is:

scribe.logs.roku.com

b.scorecardresearch.com

ssl.google-analytics.com

pubads.g.doubleclick.net

static.doubleclick.net

I'm not exactly sure which one is the culprit but I have my assumptions about google (obviously) I don't think scribe logs from roku would be the issue honestly but everything "doubleclick.net" is evil sooooo... Not sure if I'd even want to whitelist those ones.  I'm wondering do you guys get your lists from Pi-Hole or do you compile your own?  

[Netduma Fraser]

The wildcard won't work unfortunately, in the list these are the mentions of roku, try with these as well:

• ads.roku.com
• logs.roku.com
• mobile.logs.roku.com
• p.ads.roku.com
• scribe.logs.roku.com
• traces.sr.roku.com
• austin.logs.roku.com

Not sure on how we compiled the list, I'd have to ask on that one.

[Proud R3 Owner]

Ok so I got it to work with as little whitelisted domains as possible.  This is what I added to the domain list:

tpc.googlesyndication.com
pagead2.googlesyndication.com
ade.googlesyndication.com
googleads.g.doubleclick.net
static.doubleclick.net

I hope this helps if anyone bumps into this issue again. 

On a side note - it would be a nice feature if you could whitelist by device so like my rokuTV's could have these domains whitelisted but other things like phones and computers etc would still keep them blocked.  Just food for thought.  Thanks for all your help so far and thanks for working so hard for us Fraser!

[Netduma Fraser]

53 minutes ago, XR700 Owner said:

Ok so I got it to work with as little whitelisted domains as possible.  This is what I added to the domain list:

tpc.googlesyndication.com
pagead2.googlesyndication.com
ade.googlesyndication.com
googleads.g.doubleclick.net
static.doubleclick.net

I hope this helps if anyone bumps into this issue again. 

On a side note - it would be a nice feature if you could whitelist by device so like my rokuTV's could have these domains whitelisted but other things like phones and computers etc would still keep them blocked.  Just food for thought.  Thanks for all your help so far and thanks for working so hard for us Fraser!

Good to know, thanks for the update, so it's blocking the ads which is blocking the playback as well, that's why we've having trouble blocking YouTube ads in general so makes sense!

[Proud R3 Owner]

Yeah I noticed a lot of people using pi-hole had issues with search history and searching for content on YouTube itself. Most of those issues were resolved by whitelisting DoubleClick.net but that's also bad news since that's one of the ones you'd like to block without a doubt. The domains I posted as whitelisted were labeled ads on the adblocker so none of those are trackers. Also, those are the only domains whitelisted, so I can leave all the others like Netflix and Roku blocked with full functionally. (The way it should be imho) you should be able to block ads and trackers without losing functionally but you know.... Google.... 🤷‍♂️

[Proud R3 Owner]

On 7/21/2023 at 9:29 AM, Netduma Fraser said:

Hey everyone, it's been a long time coming, I feel your pain, the wait is (basically) over!

So we were planning to put the XR700 out today in Early Access, the mobile view you may have seen on the R2 requires the app to have that working on the 700 rather than a mobile web browser, as of now it's looking as though the app will be approved/go out on the respective app stores on Monday so we're holding off on the grand launch until then as without it you're missing a big part of what has gone into the update.

HOWEVER, I know you guys have been waiting for a long time and so I wanted to at least give you something. So, if you absolutely cannot wait until Monday, please post below and I will PM you the firmware. Do keep in mind you'll be missing the updated mobile view which is a big part of it.

I will like your post when I've sent you a PM with it.

So what new goodies should we expect today?