CRAZYLEGS Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Ok about a year ago I bought the net Duma it worked fine for until now. I don't know if I'm setting up things differently from when I did but I just get the laggiest lobbies (BO3 by the way) and I honestly don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I have every set right, at least I hope I do. Here's my settings: Congestion On Reactive (Because my Up is less then 100) 70% on both sliders when gaming of course. Deep packet unticked Upnp Ticked Cookies ticked Stealth ticked Also I unticked IPv6 in all the places that you can enable it cus I heard it's less of a head ache if you just keep it unticked. So any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 So any ideas? Yup, black ops 3 has been broken since 2 updates ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG__DOG Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 yeah, it is down to the cod servers and updates to game, sorry but that is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipknot31286sic6 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Don't believe that at all. Games not broken. Jus tore excuses. Saying net Duma fixes everything. Won't make you a better player. Living in one state. Playing in a server half across USA. Gives you unfair advantage or opposite. Playing with sliders all weekend, grinding the 350 million games. I seen no difference. Even going as low as 10/10. 50/35 which was recommended by someone here who removed his video since he said this was best for bo3. I honestly don't believe cc affects cod hit markers. I play hc. Test different setups yourself. My buffer bloat always A or whatever. 4 bars every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Don't believe that at all. Games not broken. Jus tore excuses. Saying net Duma fixes everything. Won't make you a better player. Living in one state. Playing in a server half across USA. Gives you unfair advantage or opposite. Playing with sliders all weekend, grinding the 350 million games. I seen no difference. Even going as low as 10/10. 50/35 which was recommended by someone here who removed his video since he said this was best for bo3. I honestly don't believe cc affects cod hit markers. I play hc. Test different setups yourself. My buffer bloat always A or whatever. 4 bars every game. Congestion control is meant to stop packets from queuing up on your network and causing local congestion by other people using your internet while you game. It has absolutely nothing to do with hit markers or how a game will "feel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipknot31286sic6 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Ah agree. But why do I see many people forcing this in forum in YouTube videos? I know you see it too. Thanks for agree on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted August 30, 2016 Netduma Staff Share Posted August 30, 2016 Congestion prevents queuing in you're network. As soon as as the game's packets have to queue, hit-markers will take longer to show and the game will feel laggy. If you've got plenty of free bandwidth then congestion control won't do anything because there is no congestion for it to control. If, for example, you've got 10Mbps upload speed and someone on your network begins to upload a YouTube video, it would most likely cause you to lag. Congestion control prevents this. So the reason it's highly recommended is because it's one of the two points of potential lag that you can control. Bringing the congestion control sliders down really low won't make a difference - it just needs to be enough to stop the network from becoming congested - that's why 70% is the recommended amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Congestion prevents queuing in you're network. As soon as as the game's packets have to queue, hit-markers will take longer to show and the game will feel laggy. If you've got plenty of free bandwidth then congestion control won't do anything because there is no congestion for it to control. If, for example, you've got 10Mbps upload speed and someone on your network begins to upload a YouTube video, it would most likely cause you to lag. Congestion control prevents this. So the reason it's highly recommended is because it's one of the two points of potential lag that you can control. Bringing the congestion control sliders down really low won't make a difference - it just needs to be enough to stop the network from becoming congested - that's why 70% is the recommended amount. Exactly what he said... And even if I put mine at 99% it's enough to stop my network from becoming congested. If I drop it to 2% it doesn't do anything with hit markers... Now if you're talking about throttling, that's a different story. I've done it using my Asus router and I can definitely feel a difference in the hit detection even though from a technical point of view it shouldn't make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 30, 2016 Administrators Share Posted August 30, 2016 If you provide the screenshots asked for here we can see what you need to do in order to optimise your connection further http://support.netduma.com/support/solutions/articles/16000022425-lag-support-instructions-to-post-on-the-forum- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Don't believe that at all. Games not broken. Jus tore excuses. Saying net Duma fixes everything. Won't make you a better player. Living in one state. Playing in a server half across USA. Gives you unfair advantage or opposite. Playing with sliders all weekend, grinding the 350 million games. I seen no difference. Even going as low as 10/10. 50/35 which was recommended by someone here who removed his video since he said this was best for bo3. I honestly don't believe cc affects cod hit markers. I play hc. Test different setups yourself. My buffer bloat always A or whatever. 4 bars every game. You still seem to think you have it all figured out,but I assure you you don't.The reasons for suggestions for starting with 70/70 CC is so you have headroom on your network like Crossy said.The reason you see 70/70 all over you tube and the forums is that is the recommended starting point and people can tweak from there according to there network and it's usage. Not everyone's network is optimial at 70/70 or 60/60 etc it's an individual thing,and like MoD BoX said even if you set CC at 99/99 you're still using it.They recommendations came from the developer and the development team and it's a good place to start,that's why you see the 70/70 recommendation so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc123 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Congestion control is just QoS (google it)...it will stop bufferbloat as well as stopping one device from using your entire network. This will not solve your lag issues in any game what-so-ever otherwise the duma wouldn't be so popular...as QoS is a feature on any router made within the past 9 years... So you are actually having issues with geo-filtering which is something you will need to setup with edge-cloud settings and then pick the bo3 profile. You still might get hit with some laggy servers, when this happens go to the geo-filter page and rate the host poorly or if it is a dedicated server...temporarily ban it. Tada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZYLEGS Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Thanks for the feed back guys! I'll take your advice to heart! I just had solid connection until recently. I know the Netduma is not ment to give you a advange over the other players but I'm not terrible at the game but I'm not getting 60+ a game either. I just get jitter and I feel like they eat a full clip of bullets sometimes. But thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Congestion control is just QoS (google it)...it will stop bufferbloat as well as stopping one device from using your entire network. This will not solve your lag issues in any game what-so-ever otherwise the duma wouldn't be so popular...as QoS is a feature on any router made within the past 9 years... So you are actually having issues with geo-filtering which is something you will need to setup with edge-cloud settings and then pick the bo3 profile. You still might get hit with some laggy servers, when this happens go to the geo-filter page and rate the host poorly or if it is a dedicated server...temporarily ban it. Tada. Although if I understand correctly, not many routers feature the same QOS in the downstream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipknot31286sic6 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I was using dlink gaming router for years before netduma. I think their congestion control just easier to use. Aka qos. Dlink you had to manually configure ports and ips. But if someone downloads a torrent on the network full throttle. Dlink couldnt handle it with qos. Duma has a unique qos. Qos been out since dlink pushed it like 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc123 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Although if I understand correctly, not many routers feature the same QOS in the downstream? this isn't true, the reason for using the netduma R1 router's QoS is because it has an extremely friendly UI. Normally configuring QoS to even be 1/2 as useful as the R1 takes a degree and some trial and error...there are different algorithms for the QoS systems, then you need to configure the speeds, finally you configure which services to use. If you are running OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, ASUS, Netgear they can do QoS but normally you don't get the most helpful options that would solve the multitude of issues involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 this isn't true, the reason for using the netduma R1 router's QoS is because it has an extremely friendly UI. Normally configuring QoS to even be 1/2 as useful as the R1 takes a degree and some trial and error...there are different algorithms for the QoS systems, then you need to configure the speeds, finally you configure which services to use. If you are running OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, ASUS, Netgear they can do QoS but normally you don't get the most helpful options that would solve the multitude of issues involved. I wouldn't know because mine doesn't work lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc123 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I wouldn't know because mine doesn't work lol gotcha, i use my pfsense router QoS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Ah agree. But why do I see many people forcing this in forum in YouTube videos? I know you see it too. Thanks for agree on this A lot of people seem to think that throttling your connection down to a very low level makes you have some kind of wonder connection. It's all part of the myth that having the best connection in the lobby will see you getting penalised by the game. "My internet is so good that the game punishes me". In my opinion, it's rubbish. I think it's all just a placebo. Loads of us have tested this thoroughly (for days) and most saw absolutely no improvement from throttling the connection low. If it actually worked then I would have thought that we should all have seen a distinct improvement in how BO3 'feels'. We didn't. Some are certain that they see improvement but considering that no two lobbies will be the same (even if the same 12 players are in there in will NEVER be the same) it's a very difficult thing to test accurately. I can only base it on my experience and I saw no difference at all, what seemed like a difference one lobby was gone the very next game. To illustrate my point: at one point I thought it's amazing, I couldn't believe how much of a difference it had made... and then I discovered that I was playing without the low throttle - It was just a good lobby. Using the congestion control to stop local congestion (when someone else connects to your home network for YouTube or whatever) is not a myth though, that's what it is intended for and it works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipknot31286sic6 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Agree. Thank you thank you. Finally someone else agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Agree. Thank you thank you. Finally someone else agrees. Not exactly sure what your excited about,you were telling people NOT to use Congestion Control. And Boom was saying that it's not a myth or placebo it actually works,so his statement is going against what you say and believe.As you said CC doesn't work it's a placebo and not to use it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipknot31286sic6 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It doesn't work for hit markers in cod. . As he stated. I run cc at 100/100. No issues running 3 kodi devices, no lag in cod. Other than bs lag comp on their server end. Every network different. Leaving it at that. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 It doesn't work for hit markers in cod. . As he stated. I run cc at 100/100. No issues running 3 kodi devices, no lag in cod. Other than bs lag comp on their server end. Every network different. Leaving it at that. Thanks I'll agree with you on that fact that everyone's home network is different and settings for CC will vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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