nffcbaz72 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 As title, tried everything on the dsl site. Was originally c,c,d, now best I can get is b,a+,f. Is this an ISP issue?? I have tested at different times, and roughly all same, adjusted slider etc on netduma GUI and can't manage it. Only trying as bops3 been average, as is AW and battlefield (xb1). Everything's set right, as had 121 with Fraser. Thanks in advance Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Are you doing the test hard wired to the router or through your wifi? If hardwired, have you tried both the Pre-emptive and Reactive settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffcbaz72 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 Hi Dillinger, hardwired, i only have 35 up and 8 down, is it still worth trying reactive then? Thanks. I just tried putting download cap to a 3rd and got the A, but the quality is affected badly with an D.. Baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 20, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 20, 2016 Some people prefer reactive yes so you could try it with reactive and see if it makes a difference which it may do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 What is your ISP service? DSL or Cable? What is your ISP Modem Mfr and Model #? Do you get good speeds and ping times with out the R1 being connected to the modem? How do you have your R1 settings configured? My R1 using not the most current FW. "If it works, don't fix it!" I set my R1 up for best (A+) BufferBloat and Quality even though the Speed was degraded (D) on dslreports.com. I turn VPN,I Pv6 and wireless off on the R1. Used the following links to help configure the R1: http://forum.netduma.com/forum/48-optimal-settings-guide/ http://forum.netduma.com/forum/51-getting-max-speeds/ Set up reservations and set my congestion controls (REACTIVE) to 92% on Down and 100% on the UP. Since I'm the only one awake and gaming at night, I presume this is ok for my configuration. This may not be if others are awake and streaming or surfing the internet. I set GeoFilter to my home location then clicked two times only to have it auto adjust. Came up with 2300miles. I left it. I added my xbox to the filter however when I did this I saw very slow speeds when testing on the xbox, 5-10Mb on the down so I left the XB1 GeoFilter rule disable and speeds were back up to higher, 70Mb. I have a cable modem SB 6121 and 100/3 service. Speedtesting reported have half while using 92% level however I got A+ for BB and Quality. Xbox reported about 70Mb on it's test. NAT OPEN on both Networking and BO3. I played BO3 last night for about two hours. Had a good time. Will see where things are again this evening. As title, tried everything on the dsl site. Was originally c,c,d, now best I can get is b,a+,f.Is this an ISP issue?? I have tested at different times, and roughly all same, adjusted slider etc on netduma GUI and can't manage it.Only trying as bops3 been average, as is AW and battlefield (xb1). Everything's set right, as had 121 with Fraser.Thanks in advanceBaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I have found that I can use the same slider reading, but my scores do vary if I got from Pre-Emptive to Reactive. Also we have found that REACTIVE seems to give better game plays for a game like BO3 on the PS4. (Opinions are still mixed on this behind the scenes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffcbaz72 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 Reactive I lost 2 grades from quality, but buffer stayed at A, can't shift quality to better than f unless I slide download cap further right, then I lose the buffer to worse grade. I'm on sky router sr102, 37 up and 9 down. Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 http://forum.netduma.com/topic/9701-ping-plotter/ This is a thread on testing your exterior line. You will need to download Ping Plotter and run a couple of tests, but this can help diagnose if you have a problem outside of your home network and needs ISP involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I saw a wiki stating that you should be using Preemtive for ISP speeds lower than 100Mb and not Reactive. Where is your Up slider set for? I set mine for 100 on the up. You have a 9 Downlink and a 37 Uplink? Is that a typo? 9Up and 37Down? And you are testing with a wired PC right with DSL reports? Reactive I lost 2 grades from quality, but buffer stayed at A, can't shift quality to better than f unless I slide download cap further right, then I lose the buffer to worse grade. I'm on sky router sr102, 37 up and 9 down.Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I saw a wiki stating that you should be using Preemtive for ISP speeds lower than 100Mb and not Reactive. Those were early "best case" use examples. A lot of testing has been done since then and we have found benefits to having folks check both options as we have no way of knowing the condition of their home, or exterior plant, wiring and signal strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffcbaz72 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 I saw a wiki stating that you should be using Preemtive for ISP speeds lower than 100Mb and not Reactive. Where is your Up slider set for? I set mine for 100 on the up. You have a 9 Downlink and a 37 Uplink? Is that a typo? 9Up and 37Down? And you are testing with a wired PC right with DSL reports? Sorry yes,37 down, 9 up. bops3 is just aweful, cant play it, no lag, just terrible hitmarking, aw was fine for a few games, now shit again. Wired pc straight to duma yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Maybe an issue with in game performances vs a router problem or configuration. I still saw some lag last night and some hit markers not right however most of the time, hit was spot on. Sorry yes,37 down, 9 up. bops3 is just aweful, cant play it, no lag, just terrible hitmarking, aw was fine for a few games, now shit again. Wired pc straight to duma yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggShooter Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Maybe an issue with in game performances vs a router problem or configuration. I still saw some lag last night and some hit markers not right however most of the time, hit was spot on. Is it "Router" or "Ruuter"? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Is it "Router" or "Ruuter"? LOL! Ask Bagsta about that pronunciation. That Queen's English troll has a WHOLE Monologue worked out on it and will gladly share it with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e38BimmerFN Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The youtube video explaining gaming and lag was kinda fun. Good info though on the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncjez Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I had an issue with line quality grades i bought two new ethernet cables and now i get an A+ on bluffer and mixed A and + on line worth changing cables to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffcbaz72 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Mines brand new cat 6 cable from r1 to xb1, just had 3 hr session on bops 3, was great, have to play it off peak times to get best results. Still can't get them both on A though. Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 As Dillinger posted download and run ping plotter to check for ISP congestion at peak times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizvandutch Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The best I got was a, a, b.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffcbaz72 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 1st two was a,b, and vice versa, then d for speed, still not managed it, and adjusted cc about 100 times. Ggrrrrr. Baz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1st two was a,b, and vice versa, then d for speed, still not managed it, and adjusted cc about 100 times. Ggrrrrr. Baz. I know it's a pain in the ass but it does help a ton.Just keep plugging away and you'll find the best settings for you and your network. But as always run it on a quiet network and do it every 3-4 hours as it will change.I find mine never to be the same,close but not exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If 70% each way does not work then look at pingplotter to find what I am guessing a ping/jitter issue with your ISP. The bloat is showing because of jitter, the duma can stop local jitter but not ISP jitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffcbaz72 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Will contact them shortly, thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Does your ping plotter results show jitter? sorry if you have told me before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nffcbaz72 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Does your ping plotter results show jitter? sorry if you have told me before. How long does it have to run for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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