adding a 2nd router behind duma?

[Victor-Yout]

is it good to add a second router behind the duma just for wifi? only my consoles would be connected to the duma then and of course the second router. i think zennon said when no devices are connected to the router you dont have bufferbloat. so the bufferbloat would be on the wifi router, where i dont care if my devices have bufferbloat, and my duma would have very little bufferbloat.

[Slipknot31286sic6]

Better to get an access point.

[PharmDawgg]

If you have another dual band wifi router lying around that you like some routers have the ability to be turned into access point mode which would be basically turning off all the routing capabilities and just keeping the wifi turned on.

[ColonicBoom]

is it good to add a second router behind the duma just for wifi? only my consoles would be connected to the duma then and of course the second router. i think zennon said when no devices are connected to the router you dont have bufferbloat. so the bufferbloat would be on the wifi router, where i dont care if my devices have bufferbloat, and my duma would have very little bufferbloat.

 

I have a second router behind my Duma, purely for wifi duties, set in Access Point mode.

It's an Asus RT-N66U. I already had it because my old ISP hub had terrible wifi range and would poop out if too many devices were connecting to the wifi at any one time.

My housemate has somehow managed to break the 2.4ghz receiver on their phone, I set it up after the Duma so they can still use our internet.

I've just realised what a hero I am 

 

You're half right in your understanding of what Zen said...

When you have no other devices using your connection (so your console is the ONLY thing using your connection), you will not suffer the buffer bloat that occurs when the bandwidth gets saturated (as gaming uses so little). And as nothing is 'jumping in' and destabilising things you don't really need to worry about congestion control.

 

However, the devices that will connect through the wifi on this extra router will still be on that same connection, as it's not a separate line, so you will still need to use congestion control (any devices connected through an additional router are still available to control individually through the device priority 'flower' by the way).

That's my understanding of it anyway, I have the additional router and I still have to use congestion control to keep the housemates' streaming/downloads in check.

 

In short, don't buy an additional router thinking it will stop you needing to use congestion control because it won't.

If you just want additional wifi range or a 5ghz network then go for it because that kind of setup works fine.

[Zennon]

 i think zennon said when no devices are connected to the router you dont have bufferbloat. so the bufferbloat would be on the wifi router and my duma would have very little bufferbloat.

The router would need to be in access point mode or buy a access point so it can use the congestion control of the duma.

 

If you do not the wifi's bloat would affect the whole network.

[iAmMoDBoX]

Whether it's in access point mode or not makes no difference. You can plug another router into the Netduma and it will still function normally... The ideal setup is to disable DHCP on the 2nd router and let the Netduma handle DHCP requests so it can see all devices on your network. Either way, as long as you have your congestion control set there won't be any bufferbloat.

 

First router - 192.168.88.1

Second router - 192.168.88.2 - Disable DHCP

[Alex49H]

Whether it's in access point mode or not makes no difference. You can plug another router into the Netduma and it will still function normally... The ideal setup is to disable DHCP on the 2nd router and let the Netduma handle DHCP requests so it can see all devices on your network. Either way, as long as you have your congestion control set there won't be any bufferbloat.

 

First router - 192.168.88.1

Second router - 192.168.88.2 - Disable DHCP

 

I have a networking question about DHCP. DM sent.

[antithesis]

I have multiple Apple routers setup as a roaming network to extend wireless coverage. More info here - https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202056 and here - https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204616

 

This doesn't just apply to Apple networks, the principles are the same for PC.

[Zennon]

Disabling DHCP is making the router an access point for all intense and purposes.

[antithesis]

Disabling DHCP is making the router an access point for all intense and purposes.

 

Yes. The R1 serves the DHCP, the other network routers are bridged.

 

To clarify, roaming networks connect all routers to each other via ethernet, whereas extended wireless networks uses wireless to connect the routers to each other. Roaming networks offer greater throughput and less signal degradation than extended wireless networks and offers better wireless coverage because the signals don't need to overlap and there's less competition for bandwidth. Wireless devices simply attach themselves to the nearest or strongest signal on the roaming network, hence the name.

 

Long story short - it's better to wire additional routers or access points to the R1 via ethernet than use wireless extenders.

[ColonicBoom]

it's better to wire additional routers or access points to the R1 via ethernet than use wireless extenders.

 

Definitely.

I'd cry if I had to use wifi extenders.