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    Zippy reacted to RedBull2k in Gaming Hardware and Settings - Controllers, Headsets, Monitors, Router/s   
    Yes I can do that after some sleep. 
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    Zippy got a reaction from Netduma Fraser in Xbox One X & Party Chat   
    Thanks Fraser for your reply. I will try this again and see if the cloud update has improved anything for me.
    That is unfortunate that we don't have some access to this. Most automatic firewalls are really problematic when it comes to identifying traffic correctly. Specially inbound..
    As far as the mtu. What I was talking about there was the mtu value for tunneling. Not the base set mtu of the router. If the firewall doesn't allow external hosts to ping internal hosts then one might get inconsistent game play. IPv6 relies on this completely in order to set the tunnel mtu. IPv4 sends a message back stating the packets are to large. While IPv6 doesn't. IPv6 just drops the packets without sending any info back letting one know that the tunneled mtu is to big. So that is why I asked about the firewall access. So now I understand why you say to put the Xbox in the DMZ of the XR500. Hopefully every ones party chat is working better now after this cloud update!
    I hope you guys at Netduma are being proactive on IPv6. I know most think of it as the devil. But it is the present and future. Even though most of the IPv6 settings are up to Netgear I just hope you guys can make your OS work with both.
    Thanks!
    Zippy.
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    Zippy reacted to Bert in Bufferbloat issues and others.   
    You can set prioritization on your R1 but it won't do much in reality since only your PS4 is connected.
     
    When I ran my R1 in cascade with another router I just set the bandwith limits to 1000/1000, Super turbo mode on. And then let your other router handle whatever QoS you want to run for the rest of your network. I just used it as a Geofilter, nothing else.
     
    Not using port prioritization is the whole point of Cake and FQ_Codel. It's basicly a algorithm that favors small realtime packets and doesn't differentiate between sources. If you want to use port prioritization you probably need to run PFIFO. 
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    Zippy got a reaction from Sunaikinti in Were these routers given up on?   
    I wouldn't say given up on.. But one would think we should see something soon! But you also have to remember it is up to Netgear on firmware updates. They will make the last call on that.. And they also have things of there own they need to fix on there end.. Im more curious about bug repair. And also curious to see if we will see all the new features of the Duma 3.0 or some of them or none of them.. There is a lot of unknowns with this Netduma/Netgear thingy..
    Zippy..
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    Zippy reacted to Netduma Alex in Were these routers given up on?   
    I don't know how much i'm allowed to say regarding which hardware we'll put DumaOS 3.0 on due to legal mumbo jumbo that i'm restrained by...
    What I will say is that we're not dropping support for any existing hardware, and we're planning to release DumaOS 3.0 for every current DumaOS device. I can't promise it yet, but that's what we're planning on.
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    Zippy reacted to Killhippie in Were these routers given up on?   
    The R1 will probably get it first, it will be interesting to see how that router handles all the new features on such old hardware. Netgear will either take it all or some of it, or just leave it, I cant see the latter happening, but as Zippy said there are a lot of unknowns and with no feedback on Netgear hardware support from either Netgear or Netduma, nobody really knows for sure. As to release dates they can slip so the guys are being cautions and that's sensible. I'm also with Zippy on patching bugs, both Netgears ones and Netduma ones, looking back over 2019 one official release for the XR500 (2.3.2.56) was not exactly what most people were hoping for and it still had disconnection issues for some, and it seems the Netduma team may not have the resources to patch and write new firmware at the same time, as Milestone 1.3 received no major bug fixes last year which it really needed. Hopefully that will change this year, but we will just have to wait and see.
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    Zippy got a reaction from Killhippie in Were these routers given up on?   
    I wouldn't say given up on.. But one would think we should see something soon! But you also have to remember it is up to Netgear on firmware updates. They will make the last call on that.. And they also have things of there own they need to fix on there end.. Im more curious about bug repair. And also curious to see if we will see all the new features of the Duma 3.0 or some of them or none of them.. There is a lot of unknowns with this Netduma/Netgear thingy..
    Zippy..
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    Zippy reacted to Bert in Tick rates issues and port prioritization   
    If you used wireshark, what ports did you get and how did you use wireshark? Ie what was the physical hookup. In Modern Warfare for example the ports change from server to server and also with the way I have hooked it up. Ie when I run my PC in between the XR500 and console I get source ports in the range 62000-65000 and with my PS4 directly connected I get 3074 as source port. 
     
    The suggestion to use the games console setting is actually a valid one as it simply works for all games.
     
    A quick search on Google brings me to the EA site and the UDP port range of 10000-20000 is only quoted for Playstation 4, not Xbox.
     
    One other thing, the UDP packet you display from Wireshark shows the following:
    Source: 59012
    Destination: 10577
     
    That means it's not in any of your QoS rules hence the light not coming on.
    You need to change the last rule to UDP Source 55000-65000 and destination 10000-20000. It seems like you have that reversed.
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    Zippy reacted to Killhippie in Tick rates issues and port prioritization   
    Zippy is highly knowledgable, if Admin agree which they have why don't you "try" the suggestion, having an attitude like the one quoted wont get you far, and we always learn things as we move forward so you may well be wrong, looking at what you have done I would back Zippy up here, also you do only want to see the red light come on when you start playing not when you turn the xbox on. Its a friendly forum with some very knowledgable people, as I said trying what they suggested wouldn't hurt. However if you think you "know how this customer thing works" there is no need to be here asking for advice.
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    Zippy reacted to GHOST-1-EC in Tick rate all over the place   
    You are correct in saying that it is a 'reading', however, there is more to it, the information gathered is clearly showing that the connection to the server is 'erratic/unstable'
    The very purpose to its inclusion was to show the end user what stats they are receiving from the server they are connected to.
    There should be no argument that the fluctuating tickrate as well as the send and receive rates are causing all the XR500 users problems with their respective gaming experience.
    What i dont understand is why this is not being escalated to 'whoever' it is that needs to see it and an actual legit response gets given to everyone.
    As things stand now it doesnt matter if u have a single digit ping ingame or on the router, you will still not have a consistent gaming experience as the tickrate and send and receive rates will still not be consistent.
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    Zippy reacted to Netduma Admin in Tick rates issues and port prioritization   
    This is a great response. I'd really recommend undoing that list and going back to using DumaOS classified games as it will detect all UDP traffic on any consoles connected to the router (or PC's with a console device type e.g. Playstation).
    Thanks for the tick rate issue. A little odd that one, we'll look into it.
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    Zippy got a reaction from Netduma Admin in Tick rates issues and port prioritization   
    Those port arrangements are wrong and incorrect. Most of those ports you added are what the game says to port forward.. Not prioritize.. Also very rarely do you ever prioritize a TCP port. Usually you only prioritize UDP ports because those are the ones that are critical ones for in game use.. If you are going to set manual rules you just want in game UDP ports.. That's it.  I would delete everything you have and start over.. You really only want to see the red light come on while in game play. Not when you turn your xbox on..  Btw your Source Port is very rarely the same as a Destination port.  If you need help setting this up let me know. I have a few things for you to try..
    Zippy.
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    Zippy got a reaction from Killhippie in Fix for "DumaOS not loaded yet!" (XR500 users only)   
    Fraser I have to ask are these cloud updates at least being done over https? This is an answer I feel needs to be asked. I get this is a gaming router but I sure hope Cloud Updates are over a secured connection. 
    Also why does this router rely so heavily on clearing ones browser cache and cookies? I have beta tested a lot of routers over time and I honestly have never seen so much talk about browser cache and cookies. I have the XR500 and this type of talk doesn't scream superior to me at all. And the fact ive never run across this before from other routers might mean its not a good idea. So when I log into my router does it make a connection through my browser to some server every time I login? Is the router trying to make a connection to a server? How about when one flushes the cloud on the Geo Filter? Is it trying to communicate to a server for these cloud or profile updates? Also what about these R-Apps. Why is it these start to take longer to load? Are those only communicating between me and my browser/router? Those aren't trying to communicate outside to some server are they?
    Thanks
    Zippy.
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    Zippy reacted to Killhippie in Fix for "DumaOS not loaded yet!" (XR500 users only)   
    Thats no excuse for not being more upfront about having that capability and not giving people the option of a 'not now'  solution. Cloud updates were assumed to be for gaming updates mostly and the odd geo filter update not crashing the interface! Sounds like DumaoS 3.0 will be talking to the mothership even more, not sure how I feel about that considering what just happened. Also I hope this cloud stuff (not keen on remote servers talking to my home routers these days) is over https. There is no way a routers GUI should go down because of a hidden update the users cant block and causing the user base to have to reboot, some people have big families and this router may be in the middle of streaming files game updates, downloading critical patches for operating systems etc, its not all about gaming. This really should have been a small update people could have downloaded like the GUI language updates at their leisure over the update system via Netgear, who may have caught the fatal error before you released it (unlikely) but you never know...
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    Zippy reacted to Killhippie in Just bought my XR500, not bad but not as advertised.   
    Speeds are slow because the code running that (Netgears) is not up to date, Voxel who is on smallnetbuilder and has worked on the R7800 (this router is a R7800 with 128mb more flash memory and no esata, that's it)  apart from a aggressive gaming shell, so USB speeds are not that fast because the code wont be optimised by Netgear, but you are dealing with a 32 bit SoC  that will be 5 years old in January too...

     HT160 is best left off unless you have devices that can utilise it, same as using 40 Mhz bandwidth instead of leaving 20/40 coexistence ticked as per the Wi-Fi Alliance guidelines for 40 Mhz and 20 Mhz coexistence, as 2.4Ghz bandwidth is saturated and like HT160 can slow your network down by causing packet collision. AX routers wont have this issue with much greater speeds over 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz as long as you have the clients which are now  starting to hit the shelves. Wi-Fi 5 routers (802.11ac) will be outdated tech by mid 2020 as more manufacturers release AX gear.I'm sure Netduma and Netgear may possibly release a AX gaming router at some point but that's a guess.

     As to factory reset  Netgear routers do prefer them after a update, and don't use a backup from a previous firmware instead of manually entering the settings as it can bring with it low level changes that cause issues. As to Geo Filter, that may change with Duma OS 3.0 but that's Netduma's department, I'm guessing the OS and the router hardware on both XR500 and XR700 just cant deal with it possibly or its a code limitation, not sure tbh, but Fraser or one of the Netduma team will let you know.
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    Zippy reacted to Killhippie in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    All netgear routers use the same version of miniupnpd, it should be easy to update but because Netgear have patched it with their secret sauce and never bothered updating it properly, nobody can replace it now as the fixes are proprietary. Voxel who creates the R7800/R9000/Orb, Netgear fork 3rd party firmware, updates all the stuff Netgear does not, but even he cant update miniupnpd, he turns UPnP off as its a security risk, which to be fair it always has been on any router which is why business routers don't use it.
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    Zippy got a reaction from Killhippie in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    Thanks Killhippie! Really makes me wonder what have we bought into here! Sounds like a mess to me. I guess this next new milestone is going to tell us all! But I have a pretty good feeling I will need to shop for something different.
    Happy Holidays!
    Cheers!
    Zippy.
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    Zippy reacted to purpleandgold33 in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    I think we crush! 
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    Zippy got a reaction from purpleandgold33 in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    Well by killhippies reply I can see why Upnp doesn't work. That is so very outdated its not even funny. And I know its not doing its job when I look into the Upnp port map table and see   3074-3074 UDP. I know that's incorrect because it should be reading 3074-3544 UDP.  I guess when I was buying my XR500 I didn't know I was buying an antique. lol.
    Ready for the Super Bowl tonight!! Its going to be a barn burner!! 👍
    Have a good Christmas!
    Zippy.
     
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    Zippy reacted to Killhippie in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    UPnP (miniupnpd) on the XR500 is about 15 years now Netgear never updated it, its just been patched in binary its proprietary so cannot be amended. The same goes for Open SSL, its over two years old now and that can be updated., but Netgear do not update the code of their routers that much, in fact take the R9000 the R7800 and the XR500 all have different versions of OpenSSL when they should have the same version, it depends on the writers in Taiwan, some are better than others and some are just lazy. You will find streamboost is still in the XR500 code, from its predecessor the R7800, Netgear just add new code and leave the old code as dead but never write fresh firmware as such. Netgear routers are like a note pad you scribble on and it makes it hard to patch when there is so much clutter from previous routers.
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    Zippy reacted to RaWxDeaL in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    @zippy thanks for the tips,ill try them out when i get a chance 
     
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    Zippy got a reaction from purpleandgold33 in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    Yes that is correct! I have mine setup cable modem>Asus>XR500. And my XR500 is put into my Asus DMZ. I totally understand I have a hard time myself holding back about my XR500. It really is missing some very important features/settings that really need to be here. And really the QoS on my XR500 isn't by any means great. I get much better ping plotter results using my Asus. And I don't have to constantly tinker with it either. Not the case when owning a XR500. And I know things like Upnp are out dated. And very little IPv6 options which don't work proper with DumaOS. In my case since I game on Xbox I need a router that has settings that will give me a full Teredo connection. 
    Im not saying you should go out and buy an Asus. You can buy any brand you want. But whatever brand you buy make sure it has good QoS and has full IPv6 control. And it wouldn't hurt to have something that has an active connection log. Theres a lot of good routers out there. Once we get the next new milestone we will know where we stand with the XR500. Im already looking for new options myself even though my Asus is doing its job atm. Lets see what the next new firmware does..
    Btw lets send those Packers packing!! Cant wait for tomorrows game! 👍 If theres one game I want the Vikings to win its this one!
    Zippy.
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    Zippy got a reaction from purpleandgold33 in Factory reset best practice   
    Tallone  Imo I would start fresh. Specially if you have the XR500. It is the most tempered router ive ever owned.  Even when I make adjustments or change settings ive noticed they either don't always take or it takes some time for them to take effect. And when I say some time.. I mean it seems to take as long as until the dhcp does its renew and release in order for things to take effect. Strange but just what ive noticed on my end. Always clear your browser cache and cookies and crumbs!   Hope that helps!
    Zippy.
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    Zippy got a reaction from RaWxDeaL in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    Welcome to the forum! If you add your XR500 in your tp link routers DMZ then you can use it like that. You have to add it into the tp links DMZ or otherwise you will likely run into a double Nat type situation. And that is something you don't want..
    Heres how I have mine currently set up. Cable modem >Asus Router >XR500. I have everything turned off in the XR500 and only use the GeoFilter when need be. The only thing I have plugged into my XR500 is my Xbox. That's it. My Asus does a much better job at QoS. And everything else is running through my Asus. Another advantage of this setup is if my XR500 goes down it wont effect everyone else in the home. As my XR500 is very tempered and I cant trust it staying connected or stay reliable..
    Hope this helps! If you have any question let me know!
    Zippy.
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    Zippy got a reaction from purpleandgold33 in I have two routers but i only want the xr500's geofilter,not the qos   
    Welcome to the forum! If you add your XR500 in your tp link routers DMZ then you can use it like that. You have to add it into the tp links DMZ or otherwise you will likely run into a double Nat type situation. And that is something you don't want..
    Heres how I have mine currently set up. Cable modem >Asus Router >XR500. I have everything turned off in the XR500 and only use the GeoFilter when need be. The only thing I have plugged into my XR500 is my Xbox. That's it. My Asus does a much better job at QoS. And everything else is running through my Asus. Another advantage of this setup is if my XR500 goes down it wont effect everyone else in the home. As my XR500 is very tempered and I cant trust it staying connected or stay reliable..
    Hope this helps! If you have any question let me know!
    Zippy.
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