Bert Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 What if you try to set your actual bandwidth numbers to something like 920/920 or 940/940 ? These bandwidth numbers control the traffic shaping algorithm. The issue with 1Gbit connectivity over a 1Gbit LAN port is that you won't actually make 1Gbit due to overhead. That's why a number of ISP's advertise their service as 940mbit and not 1000mbit. So if you try to push 1000mbit through a 920mbit pipe it will bufferbloat eventually. In the last connection benchmark you can see latency running up on upload, that's buffers filling because of link congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 15, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2021 Target ping vs idle set to 5ms is too little, natural variations in ping can go over that, 10 is a good low figure that will account for natural variance. Try it with that figure and see if it recommends anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bert said: What if you try to set your actual bandwidth numbers to something like 920/920 or 940/940 ? These bandwidth numbers control the traffic shaping algorithm. The issue with 1Gbit connectivity over a 1Gbit LAN port is that you won't actually make 1Gbit due to overhead. That's why a number of ISP's advertise their service as 940mbit and not 1000mbit. So if you try to push 1000mbit through a 920mbit pipe it will bufferbloat eventually. In the last connection benchmark you can see latency running up on upload, that's buffers filling because of link congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 It's still pushing it. What is the highest speed you have seen in a speedtest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: Target ping vs idle set to 5ms is too little, natural variations in ping can go over that, 10 is a good low figure that will account for natural variance. Try it with that figure and see if it recommends anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 11:09 AM, Bert said: It's still pushing it. What is the highest speed you have seen in a speedtest? 950Mbps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 seems like my speed test is all over the place 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 15, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2021 The Connection Benchmark results still need to be improved and the auto setup uses those same servers so can take it with a pinch of salt. In this scenario we usually recommend saturating your connection with downloads, streams etc while following this guide http://support.netduma.com/en/support/solutions/articles/16000074717-how-to-test-your-internet-ping and experiment with the percentages set to always and see what lowers it the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 So just mess with the sliders until I don't see any spikes and Packet loss with out using a speed test during the test? Just use downloads and streams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 15, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2021 55 minutes ago, Kwee said: So just mess with the sliders until I don't see any spikes and Packet loss with out using a speed test during the test? Just use downloads and streams? Yes exactly, the reason I suggest downloads and streams are 1) It's more like what you would be doing normally & 2) speedtests are over too quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 I just updated my netwrok adapter driver and seeing better results now. I just checked my motherboards website and came across a new driver they placed in the download section and bingo I'm getting super low spikes now off topic but should I be using traffic prioritization for my games? I notice upnp always has port 3074 open when I'm playing warzone and thought that would be good enough. I always have open NAT when playing so that's not a issue for me. What should the source port be for best performance? default? I just want every inch of hit reg I can get when playing Warzone (I just made that rule that's why you don't see anything prioritized ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 That rule is backwards. You should set source as 3074 and destination as 1-65535. Also I only use UDP since that is what the actual game traffic uses. Adding it as games console will also work decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Liam Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Kwee said: I just updated my netwrok adapter driver and seeing better results now. I just checked my motherboards website and came across a new driver they placed in the download section and bingo I'm getting super low spikes now off topic but should I be using traffic prioritization for my games? I notice upnp always has port 3074 open when I'm playing warzone and thought that would be good enough. I always have open NAT when playing so that's not a issue for me. What should the source port be for best performance? default? I just want every inch of hit reg I can get when playing Warzone (I just made that rule that's why you don't see anything prioritized ) Thanks for letting us know, the rule you've created will work great, however Warzone is classified in the DumaOS Classified Games Rule so that would probably work better than creating a custom rule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 is it normal for GEO filter to take awhile sometimes? Seems like I've been seeing long wait times when trying to join a server on Warzone. Got my ping assist at 35 and 411 mile distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 16, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, Kwee said: is it normal for GEO filter to take awhile sometimes? Seems like I've been seeing long wait times when trying to join a server on Warzone. Got my ping assist at 35 and 411 mile distance It really depends, if it's outside peak time it could be longer, also how far away are you trying to force servers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 I always get good servers 11-30ms but it's taking 5-10min to join sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just noticed in network status I have 8k unprioritized packets. Could that be a issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 17, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Kwee said: Just noticed in network status I have 8k unprioritized packets. Could that be a issue? Yes that is almost certainly the problem - you have more failed to send packets than successfully sent packets. Change the ethernet cable connecting the XR to your modem - it's quite possible the existing cable is faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Unprioritized is simply traffic that does not go by the traffic prio rules. The reason you have 0 unprioritized transmitted packets is that your QoS rule is backwards. If you say Source TCPUDP 1-65355 it simply prioritises all upload traffic. And hence your QoS is not effective. You should set source as 3074. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 17, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Bert said: Unprioritized is simply traffic that does not go by the traffic prio rules. The reason you have 0 unprioritized transmitted packets is that your QoS rule is backwards. If you say Source TCPUDP 1-65355 it simply prioritises all upload traffic. And hence your QoS is not effective. You should set source as 3074. That's not applicable to this panel, just TP: You can view the amount of data transferred since your router was switched on, including unprioritized packets (packets which did not reach their destination). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Bert said: Unprioritized is simply traffic that does not go by the traffic prio rules. The reason you have 0 unprioritized transmitted packets is that your QoS rule is backwards. If you say Source TCPUDP 1-65355 it simply prioritises all upload traffic. And hence your QoS is not effective. You should set source as 3074. I already switched that to Source as 3074 and destination port is start 1 end 65535. Sorry should have updated that 5 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: Yes that is almost certainly the problem - you have more failed to send packets than successfully sent packets. Change the ethernet cable connecting the XR to your modem - it's quite possible the existing cable is faulty. My wires run through the inside of the house, should I just unplug the ethernet from the modem lan port 1 and plug one directly into it and back into the XR1000? Also my ONT box is connected to another Ethernet that runs through the walls that connects the modem to the ONT so I got 2 ethernet cables that could be the issue. Only thing is my ONT is in the garage so I would need a long cord to run that for a test. I might have them come out and move the ONT to my room so then I can directly plug it into my modem then XR1000 to limit out more issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 17, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2021 Yes do try the first option if you can, it would be better in general as well if everything was coming from the same point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: Yes do try the first option if you can, it would be better in general as well if everything was coming from the same point Should both of them be 0 unprioritized packets? this is with the new ethernet cable running from the modem to the xr1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 17, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, Kwee said: Should both of them be 0 unprioritized packets? this is with the new ethernet cable running from the modem to the xr1000 Ideally yes but a small amount is normal depending on the connection and yours there is 0.07% so that is a lot better and you should have a better experience now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwee Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: Ideally yes but a small amount is normal depending on the connection and yours there is 0.07% so that is a lot better and you should have a better experience now How do you get that percentage? would increasing transmit buffers on the realtek lan in Advqance settings help this at all? right now it's on default 512 but I can increase it all the way to 4096. Receive buffers can't go any higher then 512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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