XR700 DumaOs 3.0 Beta

[sharpz44]

1 minute ago, Netduma Fraser said:

We built 3.0 on the R2 so yes it is optimized for it and comes out on that first, we'd also done a lot of work previously getting older DumaOS onto the R1 so the hard part there was already done. They get faster updates because there are less processes that have to be followed to get it out. For example, we've done the next version for the XR500 build but we're waiting on the NG QA team to approve it before it can go out. All companies will continue to innovate and NG and ourselves are no different. The XR1000 went through months of beta testing by users, it wasn't just thrown together. The other XR routers are being worked on but it is a lot of work porting it to different router architectures. I can assure you they will all receive it. 

If magic wands could be used I’m sure Netduma would , I myself swapped to the XR700 from 500 and to be honest mine works perfectly ,so basically I do not see what the big issue is with 3.0 as I bet most XR700 users routers work fine.

[Newfie]

6 minutes ago, sharpz44 said:

If magic wands could be used I’m sure Netduma would , I myself swapped to the XR700 from 500 and to be honest mine works perfectly ,so basically I do not see what the big issue is with 3.0 as I bet most XR700 users routers work fine.

It’s going to be the security side of the routers that’s worth thinking about.

[dy1945]

Waiting

[Mobel]

7 hours ago, Killhippie said:

As you can see from what Fraser said the XR700 router is now END OF LIFE so after 3.0 if it even gets that it will have no more updates from Netgear or Netduma as it is not in production, basically the AX1000 is the official replacement for the XR700. On Amazon as well as the price having been dropped to clear old stock and it states there is a newer model available as you can see in the link below. So The XR700 wont even get security updates after its final patch which may or may not be 3.0 who knows patch. Here is the Amazon UK link showing the AX1000 as the newer item for replacing the XR700. Sorry guys its bad when this happens but newer tech always replaces old and you bought the router as it was and it had no promise on the packaging for 3.0 so if do get that as a final patch be thankful, but also be aware your router will become a security risk as it no gets security patches, I'm not even sure it will get plex updates as a EOL device.

 In all fairness even my router is having a v2 revision in the new year and will need replacing (RAX120) its having a newer CPU added for wave 2 AX features, this is just life and you 'You pays yer money and you takes yer chances' Nothing is future proof.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-XR700-100EUS-Nighthawk-Gaming-Router/dp/B07GZ138X8

I didnt buy a 2018 router for €400 to buy another one after 2 years.

I strongly doubt it they will stop supporting a 2 years old router (XR700 came out sep/oct 2018) and if so then the train stops here for me because other manufacturers support their products for many years after it comes out.

[robert27841]

9 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

We built 3.0 on the R2 so yes it is optimized for it and comes out on that first, we'd also done a lot of work previously getting older DumaOS onto the R1 so the hard part there was already done. They get faster updates because there are less processes that have to be followed to get it out. For example, we've done the next version for the XR500 build but we're waiting on the NG QA team to approve it before it can go out. All companies will continue to innovate and NG and ourselves are no different. The XR1000 went through months of beta testing by users, it wasn't just thrown together. The other XR routers are being worked on but it is a lot of work porting it to different router architectures. I can assure you they will all receive it. 

Really this guy.  Then why even give us the option to use that font size.  Looks like almost censorship, but ok.  Then why even tell us to sign up for the beta from your CEO.  I'm just tired of the lies okay.  Like you're saying, the R2 is optimized for it.  So you telling us that the XR700 is over $500 router with better spec can't handle it.  But the R2 $150 can and has high priorities.

[robert27841]

Hey Fraser if you'er going to edit my post just delete my account .Since you can edit post 

NOW YOU KNOW HOW FRUSTRATED THE NETGEAR XR OWNER ARE 

[Newfie]

14 hours ago, Mobel said:

I didnt buy a 2018 router for €400 to buy another one after 2 years.

I strongly doubt it they will stop supporting a 2 years old router (XR700 came out sep/oct 2018) and if so then the train stops here for me because other manufacturers support their products for many years after it comes out.

Normally NG supports a few security updates once a router reaches its end of life. Other manufactures stop quicker, some support their products longer.

im in the same boat, My RAX120 is due to have the updated chipset so it will be a V2 version and I would not be surprised to see a few security updates then that’s it for my version of the 120. With NG that’s how they operate and I’ll change it. It’s a $500 router but it’s how the cookie crumbles.

I could keep it and run the risk of security and I know there will be features missing that the V2 will have but that’s routers and we are moving quickly into wifi6 and the advanced chipsets that offer more features. 
 

I took the move to have a early WiFi 6 router, you took the step to have an ageing router due to spec. 
 

I hope the beta arrives on the XR700 but I feel it’s reached it’s EOL due to sales, it was priced to high for its spec and the XR500 was better positioned. 
the other issue is that router is a 2016 device. It’s based on the R9000 which was released in 2016. The XR700 is that router but a different case and software but the hardware is old. Yes it was released in 2018 but it was old tech. The R9000 was EOL earlier this year so we knew what was coming.

 

[Newfie]

14 minutes ago, robert27841 said:

Hey Fraser if you'er going to edit my post just delete my account .Since you can edit post 

Calm down, just take a step back. 
Yes It’s frustrating not to get the beta as quickly as the other routers and all being well you will receive 3.0. Netduma and Netgear are in partnership and probably took the route of what router is the most popular and went from there and it may also be easier on the code on that router. 
 

To be fair the text was rather large, I’m sure you got your point across. 

[Guest Killhippie]

14 hours ago, Mobel said:

I didnt buy a 2018 router for €400 to buy another one after 2 years.

I strongly doubt it they will stop supporting a 2 years old router (XR700 came out sep/oct 2018) and if so then the train stops here for me because other manufacturers support their products for many years after it comes out.

Actually its £248 on Amazon so not much more than a XR500, the price drop is to get rid od old stock. Its the same as buying a top end TV, the following year new features come out and your TV looks old fashioned spec wise, but you don't spend say £2000 a year to keep up your TV up to date and after a  year they also stop making your model as the new model comes in,  tech moves forward. As Newfie has pointed out the XR700 is based on a four year old PCB the R9000 was also not a great seller back in its day, research helps but its down to what makes  a company money, and 802.11ad didn't take off, that was an added expense to manufacture, the routers ended up I imagine sitting in warehouses not being sold at the same rate as the XR500, hence the fire sale to get rid of the old stock which means a loss for Netgear and hence the XR700 being made EOL. Its life, it happens to us all.

Not all Netgear routers have such a short life, the R7800 is still being sold four years later and still supported even though its just security updates as it has a full feature set. Its probably one of Netgear's bets sellers, like the R7000. You just got unlucky as it wasn't a great seller by the looks of it and its not Netduma's fault its just business.

[Guest Killhippie]

11 hours ago, robert27841 said:

Hey Fraser if you'er going to edit my post just delete my account .Since you can edit post 

NOW YOU KNOW HOW FRUSTRATED THE NETGEAR XR OWNER ARE 

Stop yelling! Large font is seen as shouting, in your case its ridiculously large. Just because something is there does not mean you have to use it and there is forum etiquette also. No need to have a go at Fraser who works really hard on here and who is at no fault.

[Netduma Fraser]

12 hours ago, robert27841 said:

Really this guy.  Then why even give us the option to use that font size.  Looks like almost censorship, but ok.  Then why even tell us to sign up for the beta from your CEO.  I'm just tired of the lies okay.  Like you're saying, the R2 is optimized for it.  So you telling us that the XR700 is over $500 router with better spec can't handle it.  But the R2 $150 can and has high priorities.

I'll address all your points:

1. We did not create the forum software, it was created by Invision Community, those are the options they give you for font size.
2. If I was going to censor you then I would have deleted parts of or all of your post, instead I changed the font size back to the default. You can read our Official Forum Code of Conduct that has been unchanged for over 5 years that you agree to by posting here if you think I'm out of line: https://forum.netduma.com/topic/2764-official-forum-code-of-conduct/
3. Development is an ongoing process with delays and changes all the time, that doesn't stop us getting everyone ready for it.
4. "So you telling us that the XR700 is over $500 router with better spec can't handle it.  But the R2 $150 can and has high priorities." No I didn't say that, please re-read the post.

12 hours ago, robert27841 said:

Hey Fraser if you'er going to edit my post just delete my account .Since you can edit post 

NOW YOU KNOW HOW FRUSTRATED THE NETGEAR XR OWNER ARE 

If me changing your font size, that distracts from the whole topic and comes across as aggressive really bothers you that much then please let me know and I will delete your account as requested.

I am on the forum almost every day all day across all our platforms, trust me I know what people are frustrated about, your shouting/large font doesn't make a difference to that fact.

[robert27841]

5 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said:

I'll address all your points:

1. We did not create the forum software, it was created by Invision Community, those are the options they give you for font size.
2. If I was going to censor you then I would have deleted parts of or all of your post, instead I changed the font size back to the default. You can read our Official Forum Code of Conduct that has been unchanged for over 5 years that you agree to by posting here if you think I'm out of line: https://forum.netduma.com/topic/2764-official-forum-code-of-conduct/
3. Development is an ongoing process with delays and changes all the time, that doesn't stop us getting everyone ready for it.
4. "So you telling us that the XR700 is over $500 router with better spec can't handle it.  But the R2 $150 can and has high priorities." No I didn't say that, please re-read the post.

If me changing your font size, that distracts from the whole topic and comes across as aggressive really bothers you that much then please let me know and I will delete your account as requested.

I am on the forum almost every day all day across all our platforms, trust me I know what people are frustrated about, your shouting/large font doesn't make a difference to that fact.

I apologize ,For being loud but come on just be up front with the fans that LOVE y'all and the software . Im just done of getting the run around with netduma and netgear.

netgear support is telling me there waiting for netduma for the OS 3.0  and  then you Fraser from Netduma Tech & Customer Support is saying waiting for Netgear QA team to approve it before it can go out.It's been 5 months and nothing for the XR700 user . just delete my account man I'm just done .

Thank's for all the help you have done.

[Netduma Fraser]

1 hour ago, robert27841 said:

I apologize ,For being loud but come on just be up front with the fans that LOVE y'all and the software . Im just done of getting the run around with netduma and netgear.

netgear support is telling me there waiting for netduma for the OS 3.0  and  then you Fraser from Netduma Tech & Customer Support is saying waiting for Netgear QA team to approve it before it can go out.It's been 5 months and nothing for the XR700 user . just delete my account man I'm just done .

Thank's for all the help you have done.

I was referring to the XR500 version not the XR700. I understand your frustration, I just pass on the information I have, you may not like it but I'm not a developer so I can't speed it along unfortunately. I understand that you're annoyed now but I'll leave your account until tomorrow as it would be helpful to have still, if you still want it deleted I'll do that.

[hi-low_20]

XR700

[jeanclaudedus]

2022 for Xr 300 ?

it's on a good marketing stunt to make us buy the R2.

 

[Newfie]

46 minutes ago, jeanclaudedus said:

2022 for Xr 300 ?

it's on a good marketing stunt to make us buy the R2.

 

I would think if you follow your thinking the push would be towards the XR1000 as that is the newest standard after all. 

[SHAMOX]

J'ai un XR700, et oui j'attends avec impatience la version 3 du DUMA OS

[V3ndeTTo]

We don't get a beta for the xr700 now?

[Teddy_Ballgame]

XR700 here as well. Can't wait for the 3.0 to arrive

[Deprave]

Wait.. is the beta going to be public or to the people that has signed up? lol I’m a little confused. If there is a sign up page link it to me please 🙏💪 Don’t want to be left out. 

[ksper]

XR700 waiting

[Netduma Fraser]

12 hours ago, V3ndeTTo said:

We don't get a beta for the xr700 now?

Yes you will be getting a beta don't worry!

3 hours ago, Deprave said:

Wait.. is the beta going to be public or to the people that has signed up? lol I’m a little confused. If there is a sign up page link it to me please 🙏💪 Don’t want to be left out. 

The signups aren't open anymore. I imagine it will be an open beta but don't worry even if it isn't I'll make sure everyone here has access when it drops.

[fefe64fr]

 

I'm late to try the new version on the xr700 here from France 

[frooder]

XR700 running V1.0.1.34

[Hardware9]

still waiting , maybe by Xmas