Shane Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Ran PP for 60 minutes. Is this bad and worth calling BT over or shall I just not bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Ran PP for 60 minutes. Is this bad and worth calling BT over or shall I just not bother? What are you pinging? I think those red arrows along the bottom are where it's switching to different servers, each red arrow correlates to a blip on your graph, which would suggest that whatever you're pinging is suffering some kind of stability issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 What are you pinging? I think those red arrows along the bottom are where it's switching to different servers, each red arrow correlates to a blip on your graph, which would suggest that whatever you're pinging is suffering some kind of stability issue. I was pinging google.com, so you reckon it's something from their side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I pinging google.com, so you reckon it's something from their side? Could well be, try twitter.com If twitter.com gives you a high ping (up near 100ms) then you're hitting the USA, then try 104.244.42.129 which is a UK Twitter server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I was pinging google.com, so you reckon it's something from their side? Could well be, try twitter.com If twitter.com gives you a high ping (up near 100ms) then you're hitting the USA, then try 104.244.42.129 which is a UK Twitter server. The problem with pinging huge sites like google or twitter or facebook is that it uses a CDN or content delivery network so you will never ping the same IP which makes comparing results impossible... I could get you a real game server IP if you'd like me to... As a matter of fact, I may make a list of IPs to ping for each region and post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Could well be, try twitter.com If twitter.com gives you a high ping (up near 100ms) then you're hitting the USA, then try 104.244.42.129 which is a UK Twitter server. I'll try that tonight, might do an overnight one just to try get the best idea of whether my line is poo or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 The problem with pinging huge sites like google or twitter or facebook is that it uses a CDN or content delivery network so you will never ping the same IP which makes comparing results impossible... I could get you a real game server IP if you'd like me to... As a matter of fact, I may make a list of IPs to ping for each region and post it here. You reckon it's better for me to ping a game server over night rather than a website then? Which one would you recommend for UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 You reckon it's better for me to ping a game server over night rather than a website then? Which one would you recommend for UK? Hold off on it, I'll get you an IP later when I can grab it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The problem with pinging huge sites like google or twitter or facebook is that it uses a CDN or content delivery network so you will never ping the same IP which makes comparing results impossible... I could get you a real game server IP if you'd like me to... As a matter of fact, I may make a list of IPs to ping for each region and post it here. It wasn't really to compare to anything, it was just to find one that wasn't funking up like the last one he pinged was. I just picked that Twitter IP because it was the one it gave me and it was stable (for me at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 It wasn't really to compare to anything, it was just to find one that wasn't funking up like the last one he pinged was. I just picked that Twitter IP because it was the one it gave me and it was stable (for me at least). I know... but is there really any IP that is this stable? As a comparison, this is what the same test looks like to a normal website: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I know... but is there really any IP that is this stable? I suppose not but most things I ping don't jump around with those red arrows along the bottom. They can definitely make it look worse than it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I suppose not but when I ping something it doesn't usually jump around with those red arrows along the bottom. They can definitely make it look worse than it is The arrows just indicated that the route is changing. That usually happens when you ping an IP that is on a CDN rather than a direct IP. It could also happen from your ISP just changing the route of your traffic due to congestion. It will always take the fastest path, even if that means routing you into another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The arrows just indicated that the route is changing. That usually happens when you ping an IP that is on a CDN rather than a direct IP. It could also happen from your ISP just changing the route of your traffic due to congestion. It will always take the fastest path, even if that means routing you into another country. But when that route changes it correlates with graph showing the ping spike or stepping up/down. That's making the graph look like there are additional problems when there aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 But when that route changes it correlates with graph showing the ping spike or stepping up/down. That's making the graph look like there are additional problems when there aren't. Not much you can do about it though, that's just how the internet works. Sure it will help to avoid that in a ping test, but if you're gaming and your packets are changing route which could increase your ping then there's nothing you can do lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Not much you can do about it though, that's just how the internet works. Sure it will help to avoid that in a ping test, but if you're gaming and your packets are changing route which could increase your ping then there's nothing you can do lol Totally true. I'm just thinking that most people will think there's a problem with their line from a graph showing those steps in their ping, when it's completely out of their hands. You know better obviously, you're not 'most people' but most people are 'most people' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 6, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 6, 2017 Was this direct from the BT hub as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainping Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 you can ping google for a while & sometimes they don't send back from a request. SOMETIMES. For example if you ping your isp at say .5 second intervals, they could possibly think they are being attacked from 2 many requests so they may ignore said requests which could result in packet loss on your PP graph. Number of reasons why they may appear. Though like I said if your pinging something to quickly it may look like an attack on their end and might reject some pings since pings are of low priority when it comes to Bandwidth. Has much to do with your isp and how they respond to ping requests . Try pinging at 1 second intervals or even 1.5 seconds. At that rate the requests shouldn't be alarming to the isp. Hope that wasn't to much info at once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I find 2.5 interval to twitter has many close servers to users around the world that are not congested are the best to ping too, I understand that other's may like to test using other servers may be best for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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