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hello i am getting lag spikes whilst playing cod when my netduma is connected, any help? I done one of the tests on the software and spikes comes up bad everything else is great.

 

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  2. What speeds do you get from multiple speed tests?
  3. What is your current setup? E.g. ISP hub/modem (Specify model) > R1 > all devices 
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i have looked through everything and cant find anything to help it, im getting this come up when i do an internet diagnosis https://gyazo.com/29bf8ea82ac7180e746c4d79a03f2654?token=0d28b1e8b008c04b9058476e14b3d402and im not sure why, i have the latest software version and my speed tests vary but average about 15upload and 5 download when wireless, the specific issue is lag spikes whilst playing the game, these usually go when i turn my laptop off but before i had the netduma i diddnt have to turn it off so i dont feel like i should have to now for my internet to work properly, if u could help me fix this it would be great, thanks

 

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As MoDBoX said, we really need to know your setup and your settings.

 

My setup for example:

 

Huawei HG612 modem > Netduma > Asus AP > Devices

[all connected over ethernet]

 

If you could attach screenshots of your settings from Congestion Control, Miscellaneous Settings, Geo Filter, and the Internet Diagnostics page (also click 'Show Details'), that would help us a lot.

 

Also, where are you roughly (UK city, US State)?

What are you playing?

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i have looked through everything and cant find anything to help it, im getting this come up when i do an internet diagnosis https://gyazo.com/29bf8ea82ac7180e746c4d79a03f2654?token=0d28b1e8b008c04b9058476e14b3d402and im not sure why, i have the latest software version and my speed tests vary but average about 15upload and 5 download when wireless, the specific issue is lag spikes whilst playing the game, these usually go when i turn my laptop off but before i had the netduma i diddnt have to turn it off so i dont feel like i should have to now for my internet to work properly, if u could help me fix this it would be great, thanks

 

Lewis

 

What is your current setup? E.g. ISP hub/modem (Specify model) > R1 > all devices

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What is your current setup? E.g. ISP hub/modem (Specify model) > R1 > all devices

 

Good point.

 

As MoDBoX says, everything needs to go through the Netduma to minimise local congestion.

 

If you have an ISP hub in there then you have to make sure it's wifi is disabled and that nothing else is connected to it.

Otherwise those devices will be 'outside' of the Anti-Flood and can cause spikes.

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As MoDBoX said, we really need to know your setup and your settings.

 

My setup for example:

 

Huawei HG612 modem > Netduma > Asus AP > Devices

[all connected over ethernet]

 

If you could attach screenshots of your settings from Congestion Control, Miscellaneous Settings, Geo Filter, and the Internet Diagnostics page (also click 'Show Details'), that would help us a lot.

 

Also, where are you roughly (UK city, US State)?

What are you playing?

Okay so 

 

Im From UK (Essex) 

Im Playing Call Of Duty (PS4)

Setup BTHub5 Modem > Netduma 

Only Device connected to the netduma by ethernet is my ps4 

Links 

Congestion Control 

https://gyazo.com/b8458e99a1b62c9e5707e299524dc2d5

https://gyazo.com/a09b9226208a3a02b15ba1db1356485e

https://gyazo.com/5b5943ceba5a8f3c3c4591e6e930237c

 

Internet Diagnostics 

https://gyazo.com/b8458e99a1b62c9e5707e299524dc2d5

 

Geo Filter 

https://gyazo.com/8e80a268ee42e6c99facdd590afd7172

 

Miscellaneous Settings

- https://gyazo.com/35b5432b21f9fc0e57395f370bf5df85

 

hope this helps 

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Ok, cool, there's plenty on here with BT.

 

In miscellaneous settings untick the following (you can enable them again later if you actually need any of them):

Untick Deep Packet.

Untick Remote Access.

Untick UPnP Forwarding unless you need it to get an open NAT (you probably don't).

Untick Multicast Snooping (you probs don't need that either).

Untick IPv6.

 

IMPORTANT. Tick Cookies (you need this).

Then reboot your Netduma from Miscellaneous Settings.

 

 

 

Your Geo looks fine, although I'd turn off Auto-Ping host for the moment while we're looking at the issue.

 

You can try the Reactive algorithm too. I only have 20mb/5mb but I use Reactive (I know the instructions say use Pre-Emptive, don't worry about that).

For the moment, 'Reset Distribution' in 'Device Priority', make sure 'Share Excess' is ticked.

 

Post up the link again for Diagnosis (Show Details), your link above was wrong.

 

Make sure the wifi is disabled completely on the homehub. Everything should be connected to the Netduma wifi instead.

Are any devices attached to the homehub by ethernet? They need to be connected to the Netduma to stop them causing spikes.

 

I'll off but I'll check back in here tomorrow.

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Okay so 

 

Im From UK (Essex) 

Im Playing Call Of Duty (PS4)

Setup BTHub5 Modem > Netduma 

Only Device connected to the netduma by ethernet is my ps4 

Links 

Congestion Control 

https://gyazo.com/b8458e99a1b62c9e5707e299524dc2d5

https://gyazo.com/a09b9226208a3a02b15ba1db1356485e

https://gyazo.com/5b5943ceba5a8f3c3c4591e6e930237c

 

Internet Diagnostics 

https://gyazo.com/b8458e99a1b62c9e5707e299524dc2d5

 

Geo Filter 

https://gyazo.com/8e80a268ee42e6c99facdd590afd7172

 

Miscellaneous Settings

- https://gyazo.com/35b5432b21f9fc0e57395f370bf5df85

 

hope this helps 

 

Hey Lewis; definitely follow the advice ColonicBoom has suggested and see if your spikes drop at all. Unfortunately though, there's only so much the Netduma can do to fix issues like that. If you try all of Colonic's suggestions and nothing changes, you'll need to do a more extensive test to get to the root of the problem.

 

After trying those settings, download Pingplotter and run a test for 2 hours with your Netduma connected, and 2 hours without. (Pinging a site like Twitter.com). Make sure to screenshot the results since they'll be the best indicator of where the issue is coming from. If you see bad spikes without the Netduma connected, then it indicates problems with your line. At that point, the equipment itself could be to blame - a new Ethernet cable might reduce it, for example.

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Hey Lewis; definitely follow the advice ColonicBoom has suggested and see if your spikes drop at all. Unfortunately though, there's only so much the Netduma can do to fix issues like that. If you try all of Colonic's suggestions and nothing changes, you'll need to do a more extensive test to get to the root of the problem.

 

After trying those settings, download Pingplotter and run a test for 2 hours with your Netduma connected, and 2 hours without. (Pinging a site like Twitter.com). Make sure to screenshot the results since they'll be the best indicator of where the issue is coming from. If you see bad spikes without the Netduma connected, then it indicates problems with your line. At that point, the equipment itself could be to blame - a new Ethernet cable might reduce it, for example.

okay thank you i have just followed his setting changes and am about to play for a little bit to see if its fixed, if not, i will follow your instructions. 

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Ok, cool, there's plenty on here with BT.

 

In miscellaneous settings untick the following (you can enable them again later if you actually need any of them):

Untick Deep Packet.

Untick Remote Access.

Untick UPnP Forwarding unless you need it to get an open NAT (you probably don't).

Untick Multicast Snooping (you probs don't need that either).

Untick IPv6.

 

IMPORTANT. Tick Cookies (you need this).

Then reboot your Netduma from Miscellaneous Settings.

 

 

 

Your Geo looks fine, although I'd turn off Auto-Ping host for the moment while we're looking at the issue.

 

You can try the Reactive algorithm too. I only have 20mb/5mb but I use Reactive (I know the instructions say use Pre-Emptive, don't worry about that).

For the moment, 'Reset Distribution' in 'Device Priority', make sure 'Share Excess' is ticked.

 

Post up the link again for Diagnosis (Show Details), your link above was wrong.

 

Make sure the wifi is disabled completely on the homehub. Everything should be connected to the Netduma wifi instead.

Are any devices attached to the homehub by ethernet? They need to be connected to the Netduma to stop them causing spikes.

 

I'll off but I'll check back in here tomorrow.

i have followed all of the instructions and as for the router, the only thing connected by Ethernet is the netduma and as for wifi, im not 100% sure but im pretty sure most if not all things are connected to the netduma

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im not 100% sure but im pretty sure most if not all things are connected to the netduma

 

All things MUST go through the Netduma, wifi and ethernet, or the anti-flood won't work.

Nothing can be connected to the ISP hub except for the Netduma.

 

As Jack said, if you have it set up like this and you still have spikes then you need to run a test (over ethernet while wifi is disabled) on your line with Ping Plotter.

A 30 minute test at peak time will usually be enough for us to tell if there's an issue.

 

It could still be one of the cables though, it's always a good idea to swap them out and see if it improves things.

Obviously it could be any of the cables in the chain, modem, hub, xbox, laptop, depending on where the spikes are appearing.

It could also be a problem in the little box on the wall where your BT signal comes in.

 

If you're still seeing spikes it's not the end of the world though, BT are pretty good and there's lots of things the problem can be.

Let us know how you go.

 

*If you're playing IW, it's been pretty funky on Xbox this week. Testing your line is the best way to see what's up rather than just in-game.

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