G_Lee Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Hello: I am interested in getting some assistance in determining whether a Netduma R1 router will help me. I am located in Toronto, Canada. My ISP is Rogers and I have their top tier internet service. My internet setup is as follows: - Hitron CGN3ACSMR modem (provided by ISP) in bridge mode; - D-Link DIR-890L wireless modem; - computer running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit connected to router via Ethernet; - Asus Strix Nvidia GTX 980ti video card; - I also have an Open NAT, and Origin and Steam are port forwarded in the D-Link router. This setup gives me the following internet connection, typically: Because we use my wife and I both use the internet connection for business (she uses wireless), I am quite happy with the performance of the D-Link router. However, for my gaming, which is primarily Call of Duty Advanced Warfare and Titanfall and presumably soon to be followed by Call of Duty Black Ops 3, I am hoping to get better gaming performance with respect to lag/lag comp etc. Even with this internet connection, my experience with lag/lag comp in CoD AW has been very frustrating at times. Will the Netduma R1 improve my gaming experience? Thanks in advance for you assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted October 25, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted October 25, 2015 Hi Lee, welcome to the forum The best way to setup if you get the Netduma would to have all devices going though it and then any other devices as an access point. You'd then be able to use congestion control and any other future features (such as the upcoming new congestion control algorithm) that needs everything connected to the Netduma. The GeoFilter should also help lots with getting low ping games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Lee Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 Hi Crossy: Thanks for your reply. Right now is the R1 bandwidth-limited? That would be a concern for me, as I would want the full bandwidth of my internet connection available to me. Why I am having problems with low ping games given my internet network connection? One other general question. With the player base declining in CoD AW, would it make it more difficult to find low ping games (or any games for that matter), especially once the Netduma further filtering the number of games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted October 25, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted October 25, 2015 Hi Crossy: Thanks for your reply. Right now is the R1 bandwidth-limited? That would be a concern for me, as I would want the full bandwidth of my internet connection available to me. Why I am having problems with low ping games given my internet network connection? One other general question. With the player base declining in CoD AW, would it make it more difficult to find low ping games (or any games for that matter), especially once the Netduma further filtering the number of games? Hi Lee, Yes, at the moment the R1 is bandwidth limited. There is an update currently in beta that takes the speeds up to gigabit - this update should be about in the near future. If the host for the game is far from you the ping will increase - the GeoFilter helps combat this by making sure the host is close to you (therefore hopefully a low ping). As you have a hight bandwidth connection it isn't too important for you to connect all devices to the Netduma as local congestion probably isn't something you get so if you can't connect all your devices to the Netduma then it doesn't really matter It would make it more difficult, yes. I'm not sure how much success people have had with AW but I know that for lots it has worked very well with the old CoDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsta69 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 AW is pretty hit and miss tbh but personally I have seen a positive result overall for it, I have run non scientific tests of 5 or 6 games without duma geo filter and cc and 5-6 games with and there is a marked difference on the positive side for using the R!. AW is an awful game and I would not still be playing it if it wasn't for the R1 but here I am still playing the game despite the occasional WTF moment which are far less with the R!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 First off welcome to the forums... No question the duma works great with older titles and it still helps a ton on AW,but AW was not a huge hit with the COD community.And they IMO didn't put a lot of effort into their dedi's. I can still have good game son AW,but just don't like the game.But the duma is for real and does live up to the hype,it preforms as advertised... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Lee Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 Hi everyone: Thank you for your positive replies. Perhaps you can explain something to me. If I play a private FFA match with say 9 bots, in my experience the gameplay, hit registration, etc is far better than most online games that I have played. Will a low ping game come closer to the private match experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukasz Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hello welcome to the DUMA ARMY Buddy. Sure it will be closer but it will never be connection like playing LAN. After all there is a reason why all of the major tournaments happens to be on LAN. LAN which in that case is playing with boots its the ideal goal. This router had massively change my gaming experience. And i Just dont see how i could not play on low ping lobbies. However its is not LAN but still its a difference of night and day at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hi everyone: Thank you for your positive replies. Perhaps you can explain something to me. If I play a private FFA match with say 9 bots, in my experience the gameplay, hit registration, etc is far better than most online games that I have played. Will a low ping game come closer to the private match experience? I would say yes as playing private match against bots is always gonna be low latency.You gotta remember when you play online that your hooking up with people with good and bad internet,so it's not gonna be exactly like playing in private mode against bots. But you will find a lot more lower ping lobbies by using the GF than by not using it as you might be connected to a host 2000 miles away without the GF.And with the GF enabled you can set the distance when you search for a game.So no more connecting with a host or server in Brazil when you live in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 26, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hey Lee welcome to the forum! I can only reiterate what people have said here. There will be an update out soon so you'd be able to utilise your full connection. It can definitely help get you low ping games and will also support BO3. So that you can have the best experience possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Lee Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hi Everyone: So to clarify, as I have very little experience with all this, a private match with bots on your local machine is similar to playing on LAN. However, the Netduma will allow me to access lower ping hosts while playing online, which will improve my gaming experience, just not to the point of LAN. I have experienced some good games which approach the experience of a private match; however they have been few and far between. If the Netduma can improve this, then I am very interested once the release to Gigabit speeds is available. Would I go modem, Netduma, router (as access point), or modem, router, Netduma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 26, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hi Everyone: So to clarify, as I have very little experience with all this, a private match with bots on your local machine is similar to playing on LAN. However, the Netduma will allow me to access lower ping hosts while playing online, which will improve my gaming experience, just not to the point of LAN. I have experienced some good games which approach the experience of a private match; however they have been few and far between. If the Netduma can improve this, then I am very interested once the release to Gigabit speeds is available. Would I go modem, Netduma, router (as access point), or modem, router, Netduma? Yes that's correct, the best ping I have gotten and I believe other people have as well is about 10ms which is about the best you'd get on the internet, not saying you will get a game with that low a ping but yes we can help you achieve much lower average ping games then using any other router. Modem > Netduma > Router as access point would be the best setup as then every device connected to the AP router still gets all the benefits of the R1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Lee Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 What would I have to do to my router to use it as an access point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted October 27, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted October 27, 2015 What would I have to do to my router to use it as an access point? On the router settings just change the settings so that it is an access point This thread should show how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Lee Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Thanks for the instructions. The only thing I am waiting on is the release for Gigabit bandwidth in the Netduma R1. Any ideas of when that will be available? I can't wait, because I was in a lobby with players from Japan earlier today, and being located in Toronto, Canada, the experience was very frustrating and less than pleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted October 28, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted October 28, 2015 Thanks for the instructions. The only thing I am waiting on is the release for Gigabit bandwidth in the Netduma R1. Any ideas of when that will be available? I can't wait, because I was in a lobby with players from Japan earlier today, and being located in Toronto, Canada, the experience was very frustrating and less than pleasant. There isn't really an official ETA anymore for release (see here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 28, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2015 You could always get it now and just use it for the Geo-filter to prevent getting Japanese games, and then when the update is out switch all your devices over to the R1 for the congestion control abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy clam Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Agree with Fraser,I would get it now and you could still use the features of the duma and when the update comes out run them all thru the duma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted October 28, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2015 Hi G_Lee, sorry a bit late to this. With gaming ping is key, ping in simple terms is the time it takes for you to perform an action like shooting and for it to take effect. When you play in a local lobby with bots the ping is essentially 0ms (or few microseconds to move accross your xbox motherboard). With LAN its between 1ms-5ms and time it takes to move from switch to other devices. One of the main causes of ping increase is distance, so if you connect to a host far away for e.g. UK/Aus for you. The ping will be 100ms+. If it's in your city it can be as low as 10ms. Our Geo-Filter can't guarantee your city/town as there maybe no players or servers there but you will be able to restrict it significantly so you don't get those distance hosts. Finally congestion control will stop other people at your home making your ping rise when they use the Internet. So combined you should see a large difference. Hope that helps and welcome to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Lee Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Thanks Iain. My only concern right now is that I do use my bandwidth for business purposes. While I would love to be playing on a Netduma R1 right now, I am constrained by the bandwidth limiting. One other question, what is the effect of a distant (presumably high ping) player joining a low ping lobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 28, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2015 Do you need more than 120mbps for business? That should be plenty for most uses. It can have an effect on the lobby, making them harder to kill etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted November 9, 2015 Administrators Share Posted November 9, 2015 As Fraser said it's hard to say, but in general the low ping player should have much bigger advantage over high ping player. If you have 120mbps that is more than enough for nearly any scenario I can think of. Put it this way 4k video is 22mbits. So you have enough for about 6 4k videos simultaneously. That is ample Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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