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My bufferbloat is 0-5ms down and always 0ms up.  My ping is stable within 5ms of the servers lowest ping it guves me, i thought10-30 ping fluctuations were normal… WTF.  Every shot hits, i dont randomly die because my shot didnt register but theirs did.

 

the game just works now

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7 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said:

Great to hear, thanks for showing your experience!

Just had my ISP techs come to my house, turns out my modem and cabling wasn’t running as clean as it should.   Looking at bufferbloat and doing hours of tests I figured it was good to get someone to do some tests and replace some equipment.  Now I can bring it up to 500mb down and get lower bufferbloat!!!!!  My max unloaded latency went from 30ms to 14.5ms when the tech swapped modems, my download latency is at 0ms.. this is crazy.  But the wildest impact is in-game with these controls

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Sure!  I completely ignore the R3 speedtest because it gives me 300mbps when speedtest.net gives me a consistent 890-910mbps.

 

i set my bandwidth to 850mb down, my upload is always stable at 40mb so I leave it at that.

 

then I set congestion control to 50% download of the 850, and 100% upload.

 

i disable ipv6 on lan and wan.
 

 I disable upnp, and set my xbox to have open ports 1-65000.  
 

smartboost enabled on xbox as the only priority
 

i turn off all the settings in the troubleshooting tab, tree, syn flood, whatever those things are.  (I cant remember the exact names)

 

i personally set my dns server to cloudfare, 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 as its my fastest dns server to me.  

 

i disable steady ping.

now its the most stable ping ive everi had on coaxial cable from spectrum… living in Hawaii with the nearest gameservers located in California.

 

ill be optimizing this further as i learn more about the R3 and can use new firmware.  This is on the .23 firmware because I cannot access fortnite on the .40 firmware

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If you cant achieve the same bufferbloat with those settings you have a bad modem, cable, need an amplifier (if coax), or your ISP is just bad

 

Techs just came to my house and replaced my modem and some cabling and i was able to change my download from 20mb to 500mb (after 50% congestion control) so cabling and modem can make a big difference

i didnt even know about bufferbloat until the r3

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2 hours ago, Megatf said:

Sure!  I completely ignore the R3 speedtest because it gives me 300mbps when speedtest.net gives me a consistent 890-910mbps.

 

i set my bandwidth to 850mb down, my upload is always stable at 40mb so I leave it at that.

 

then I set congestion control to 50% download of the 850, and 100% upload.

 

i disable ipv6 on lan and wan.
 

 I disable upnp, and set my xbox to have open ports 1-65000.  
 

i turn off all the settings in the troubleshooting tab, tree, syn flood, whatever those things are.  (I cant remember the exact names)

 

i personally set my dns server to cloudfare, 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 as its my fastest dns server to me.  

 

i disable steady ping.

now its the most stable ping ive everi had on coaxial cable from spectrum… living in Hawaii with the nearest gameservers located in California.

 

ill be optimizing this further as i learn more about the R3 and can use new firmware.  This is on the .23 firmware because I cannot access fortnite on the .40 firmware

You said,

i turn off all the settings in the troubleshooting tab, tree, syn flood, whatever those things are.  (I cant remember the exact names)

I wouldn't recommend turning those off.... they are security features.

I am also unable to load into fortnite after the update....

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3 hours ago, MainLifeline said:

this is nice to see. but im wondering. if you have 1k/1k fiber or even ur speeds. wouldnt it take a lot of bandwith useage for bufferbloat to even be an issue?

You never know what your smart devices are doing.  Your phone.  Your roommates, spouse, family.  I feel the difference in an empty house and im the only one on the internet not even close to my cap.  
 

the only way to know is to do it.  And ive been living a lie thinking the same thing

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If you have to use your internet provider router I would put it in bridge mode, then on the R3 put your ps5/xbox/pc in DMZ. I just returned my Fios router, and connected my R3 to my wall, then put my ps5 in DMZ on the R3 router. simple...FYI for those who have to use there internet provided router,  if you don't put it in bridge mode, you might run into a higher NAT type.

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1 hour ago, Gskillz said:

If you have to use your internet provider router I would put it in bridge mode, then on the R3 put your ps5/xbox/pc in DMZ. I just returned my Fios router, and connected my R3 to my wall, then put my ps5 in DMZ on the R3 router. simple...FYI for those who have to use there internet provided router,  if you don't put it in bridge mode, you might run into a higher NAT type.

I would be very wary of having a PC in DMZ on a shared network. With no security in place from your router all traffic will be allowed in and you only have your windows software to protect you which is not great. Consoles are less of a risk but I would recommend some research on the use of DMZ before using it. 

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i set to 55%/80% always on on 5 tests back to back yielded bb rankings F,B,A,A A+

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=4ad5653f-e0bc-48c1-ab29-7850881e3aee

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=99751d7a-2f5f-4531-a6be-f71552c839c1

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=36b4a2ef-aa66-4423-81be-c2d66f58e147

some single high download ping spikes, but considering its via wifi it actually might be kinda great. i am on FW .20

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10 hours ago, Gskillz said:

If you have to use your internet provider router I would put it in bridge mode, then on the R3 put your ps5/xbox/pc in DMZ. I just returned my Fios router, and connected my R3 to my wall, then put my ps5 in DMZ on the R3 router. simple...FYI for those who have to use there internet provided router,  if you don't put it in bridge mode, you might run into a higher NAT type.

How did you connect the r3 to the wall?  I have Fios,  that big router of theirs does both the internet and cable TV at our house.

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On 1/29/2024 at 4:01 PM, Megatf said:

bro can i contact u on discord, for the past 8 months ive dove extremely deep into why i had such bad bufferbloat and no hit reg in any game i played. can u lmk what was wrong with ur equipment? the upload is +16ms btw

- my discord is setty250

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, settyszn said:

that didnt fix it, it made it worse

Did you disable it in LAN and WAN?

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1 hour ago, settyszn said:

that didnt fix it, it made it worse

Do you have Congestion control settings correct?  IE Always on, limited download and upload

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If you want to fix bufferbloat go to command prompt (admin) and paste      netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable  . Of course before do a restore point or  to renable the command is: netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal .  Tuning the buffer on your end doesn't really solve the issue on their end from sending at a consistent rate.

 

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On 1/30/2024 at 1:49 AM, Megatf said:

Sure!  I completely ignore the R3 speedtest because it gives me 300mbps when speedtest.net gives me a consistent 890-910mbps.

 

i set my bandwidth to 850mb down, my upload is always stable at 40mb so I leave it at that.

 

then I set congestion control to 50% download of the 850, and 100% upload.

 

i disable ipv6 on lan and wan.
 

 I disable upnp, and set my xbox to have open ports 1-65000.  
 

smartboost enabled on xbox as the only priority
 

i turn off all the settings in the troubleshooting tab, tree, syn flood, whatever those things are.  (I cant remember the exact names)

 

i personally set my dns server to cloudfare, 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 as its my fastest dns server to me.  

 

i disable steady ping.

now its the most stable ping ive everi had on coaxial cable from spectrum… living in Hawaii with the nearest gameservers located in California.

 

ill be optimizing this further as i learn more about the R3 and can use new firmware.  This is on the .23 firmware because I cannot access fortnite on the .40 firmware

Where u set ur dns server ? 

In the router or in the playstation? 

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36 minutes ago, MackMurder said:

How do i fix this?

Im on PC not xbox

Does duma have smart que managment?

You'll need to adjust Congestion Control in Ping Optimizer > Advanced to reduce those numbers

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