sharpz44 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 So after going through Wi-Fi strengths on the app I think they are not 100% correct , I can give examples of seeing a phone saying fair but it has a full strength signal on the phone , another is a laptop which goes fair and sometimes poor but maintains 3 bar Wi-Fi signal , this must be something to do with how DumaOs is seeing it and think it does not fully represent the signal 100% , they all work and get full speeds so bit odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpz44 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Also I have noticed that one of the antenna is rattling inside which means something is lose , where can I get a replacement one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG3NOC1D3 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 42 minutes ago, sharpz44 said: So after going through Wi-Fi strengths on the app I think they are not 100% correct , I can give examples of seeing a phone saying fair but it has a full strength signal on the phone , another is a laptop which goes fair and sometimes poor but maintains 3 bar Wi-Fi signal , this must be something to do with how DumaOs is seeing it and think it does not fully represent the signal 100% , they all work and get full speeds so bit odd Wifi strength is not indicative of speed and capability, it also factors in noise floor and signal deprecation. You can still get good speed but you will have added latency and when playing games or trying to look at live footage. If there is a camera getting a lower signal, you will notice delays when live viewing and issues loading up the app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpz44 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Im aware of the depreciation factors associated with Wi-Fi ,my point is that the app status bars for Wi-Fi are not correct , I’m sitting 12 feet away from the router with full strength on my phone but fair on app , so that’s not correct.also the aforementioned pc has no latency with fair Wi-Fi whilst gaming , the app is inconsistent with the Wi-Fi status Newfie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindlash Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 51 minutes ago, sharpz44 said: Also I have noticed that one of the antenna is rattling inside which means something is lose , where can I get a replacement one When I got mine, while installing I tapped male ends of the antennas before screwing them on - I too noticed that one had a 'rattle' vs the other 3 that felt solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpz44 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, mindlash said: When I got mine, while installing I tapped male ends of the antennas before screwing them on - I too noticed that one had a 'rattle' vs the other 3 that felt solid. Bit strange that, probs be ok , still rattles if I tap it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sharpz44 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 This is my point , that not low signal it’s full and like I said I’m about 12 feet away Disrek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 @sharpz44I do believe it something actually related to the capabilities of the wireless connection since I have my XR in AP and everything is perfect however changing to the R3 wireless connection it does show weaker signal to devices on the UI and am not an expert on frequencies and haven't done proper testing so this could be just an UI bug the best way to test this would be using wifi analyzer to get more accurate results based on some research. sharpz44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG3NOC1D3 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 52 minutes ago, sharpz44 said: Im aware of the depreciation factors associated with Wi-Fi ,my point is that the app status bars for Wi-Fi are not correct , I’m sitting 12 feet away from the router with full strength on my phone but fair on app , so that’s not correct.also the aforementioned pc has no latency with fair Wi-Fi whilst gaming , the app is inconsistent with the Wi-Fi status Well, 12 feet away in a heavily saturated area with a competing wi-fi ssid on the same channel can cause the fair signal issue. Since you are aware of the deprecating issue with having competing channels, I assume you know that phones and tablets only go off signal strength in general and do not base the signal on other factors. However, if you didn't, I would download wi-fi analyzer and then scan for what wi-fi channels are around you. Once you find your least congested channel, aka minimal strength of wifi, Use 1,6,11 for 2.4ghz and for 5ghz i'd stick to 36,40,44,48,52,56,60,149,153,157 and 161. These channels are all non overlapping which means you won't get signal bleed in from other channels. Hope this helps. mindlash and sharpz44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpz44 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 10 minutes ago, TG3NOC1D3 said: Well, 12 feet away in a heavily saturated area with a competing wi-fi ssid on the same channel can cause the fair signal issue. Since you are aware of the deprecating issue with having competing channels, I assume you know that phones and tablets only go off signal strength in general and do not base the signal on other factors. However, if you didn't, I would download wi-fi analyzer and then scan for what wi-fi channels are around you. Once you find your least congested channel, aka minimal strength of wifi, Use 1,6,11 for 2.4ghz and for 5ghz i'd stick to 36,40,44,48,52,56,60,149,153,157 and 161. These channels are all non overlapping which means you won't get signal bleed in from other channels. Hope this helps. I was looking at Wi-Fi analyzer seems the best best one is android , I only have iOS , i don’t see many other wifi broadcasts due to not living in a built up area , though I do see the neighbours routers x 3 of them .ill look at the analyzer , might buy an android device . cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 4 Administrators Share Posted January 4 To provide more information on how the router determines the strength it does the following: -65+ = Max -67+ = High -70+ = Mid -80+ = Low Does that correspond with what you've been seeing if you check the db values using an analyzer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpz44 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 49 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: To provide more information on how the router determines the strength it does the following: -65+ = Max -67+ = High -70+ = Mid -80+ = Low Does that correspond with what you've been seeing if you check the db values using an analyzer? No - reading 5ghz @-25dBm channel 44 and 2.ghz @ -42dBm channel 11 , however I can see that other networks are not using those channels -seems Sky Ac uses channel 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfie Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 WiFi 6 was designed to help in congested areas and did succeed to a degree but also failed as not every subset was added. Preamble puncturing was there but was never implemented for example where on WiFi 7 this will be more of a standard. Unifi do a plug in unit for IOS that is a WiFi analyser or you can use Apples own app called airport utility which is very basic. The router needs to show more info to help users understand their WiFi connection. I’m not sure if -70dBi is mid if that’s how it’s worked out. That would be more classed as poor. Sky is always 36 and 80Mhz. You could change to 40Mhz to gain a bit more distance and avoid some interference if you have issues or move to DFS if supported but really DFS has its drawbacks and pluses. The upper 5Ghz frequencies changed as OFCOM relaxed the reg here in the U.K. but it’s a mess as clients and most routers don’t meet that standard. Great idea but failed completely as not enough support. Would be nice to know exactly what WiFi 6 subsets are up and running too. Not a single piece of info on this. sharpz44 and Disrek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 5 Administrators Share Posted January 5 16 hours ago, sharpz44 said: No - reading 5ghz @-25dBm channel 44 and 2.ghz @ -42dBm channel 11 , however I can see that other networks are not using those channels -seems Sky Ac uses channel 36 Interesting okay, so you should be getting max, thank you for the report, I will pass it onto the team. sharpz44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpz44 Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: Interesting okay, so you should be getting max, thank you for the report, I will pass it onto the team. Is there something wrong with the unit then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 5 Administrators Share Posted January 5 42 minutes ago, sharpz44 said: Is there something wrong with the unit then No, Device Manager is just under reporting the strength of the WiFi, the WiFi is strong given the db values you're getting sharpz44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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