Alix Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Hi just wanted some advice I have changed connection is this bufferbloat I did a hard wire speed test it's saying download is 103ms and between 89. The upload is between 16ms and 17ms. Went to waveform website and did a bufferbloat test my score is A but says your Latency increased slightly under load what does that mean please? Edited August 22, 2023 by Alix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 @AlixIt means exactly what it says mate you have high latency spikes and low bandwidth so I don't necessarily think they're a fix for this...though you can try decreasing your download slightly and test the results since that seems to be your affected area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alix Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Hi thanks for replying sounds like a daft question I have a low latency which is around 7ms is latency different to bufferbloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Hi ! It's a good question, the tone of some in writing is just difficult to interpret or to their image..! Regarding your question, it's 2 tests are performed on 2 different servers which could explain the difference between ookla and waveform. Rely on waveform for your connection bloat test which is more accurate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alix Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 31 minutes ago, Fuzy said: Hi ! It's a good question, the tone of some in writing is just difficult to interpret or to their image..! Regarding your question, it's 2 tests are performed on 2 different servers which could explain the difference between ookla and waveform. Rely on waveform for your connection bloat test which is more accurate! I think speed test was showing bufferbloat to confirmed by waveform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 22, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2023 Experiment with your Congestion Control percentages and you should be able to reduce those figures significantly Alix and Fuzy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alix Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Hi Fraser if you have bufferbloat do you move the slider's down or up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Also don't forget to set the abb to always, if you want the sliders to work!😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 22, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, Alix said: Hi Fraser if you have bufferbloat do you move the slider's down or up? Generally down, though some people have good results with higher values Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alix Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) I think I have sorted it what do you think? Edited August 22, 2023 by Alix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 22, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alix said: I think I have sorted it what do you think? That looks good as far as I can tell, basically no change from the baseline which is what you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alix Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Do you think the idle ping is high? I know do download and upload ping look nearly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 22, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, Alix said: Do you think the idle ping is high? I know do download and upload ping look nearly the same A little but that's probably more to do with the server it's using to test as your speedtest.net ping as low so I think you're all good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alix Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Is there away of bringing the idle down? or like you say it's the servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted August 22, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, Alix said: Is there away of bringing the idle down? or like you say it's the servers I think it's the servers based on the speedtest result so you've brought down Ping Under Load to the best level, it will carry over to that low ping if you see what I mean so won't go much higher than it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun72 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Hi, I run the waveform bufferbloat test on my xbox, and as you can see the upload latency looks really bad (117ms). Can someone give me some advice please in how I can reduce the upload latency, if possible, on either my R1 or R2 router? I run a separate pingplotter test and all looked fine with no more than 30ms spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 @Cajun72It your upload that affected so try decreasing your upload slider by 5/10 percent and find the sweet spot we’re there’s the least amount of buffer Cajun72 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Cajun72 said: Hi, I run the waveform bufferbloat test on my xbox, and as you can see the upload latency looks really bad (117ms). Can someone give me some advice please in how I can reduce the upload latency, if possible, on either my R1 or R2 router? I run a separate pingplotter test and all looked fine with no more than 30ms spike Hi, Do you use pppoe? If you have a main router, the best is to put the R2 in DHCP behind for the moment! Do the test and tell us your result please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun72 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, Fuzy said: Hi, Do you use pppoe? If you have a main router, the best is to put the R2 in DHCP behind for the moment! Do the test and tell us your result please! Hi. I leave it default - DHCP. The Netduma is the main router and is connected to an openreach modem. Shall I keep lowering the upload slider or is there anything else I need to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Cajun72 said: Hi. I leave it default - DHCP. The Netduma is the main router and is connected to an openreach modem. Shall I keep lowering the upload slider or is there anything else I need to do? If I understand the netduma is behind an ONT (modem openreach)? And you have configured it with your pppoe or MAC Address Cloning identifier on the WAN part to obtain internet access ...or not... I could see users having this UL result with the R2 on this https test! Did your ISP provide you with a router? Can you take a screenshot of your modem please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun72 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Yes the Duma is connected to the openreach modem (see screenshot). Sorry not sure what you mean reg: MAC address cloning etc.. ? I just set up the duma with recommended settings. Both Wifi and wired internet are through the duma. Yes the ISP is talk talk who provided the modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Ok, you are on G-Fast (copper line +++) https://download.huawei.com/dl/download.do?actionFlag=download&nid=DOC1000254586&partNo=6001&mid=SUP_DOC&play=1 I know very little about this "technology" because it is not offered in France. Try lowering the ul slider and see how the waveform test behaves! PS : (for information: if your access provider has provided you with FTI identifiers (pppoe), you will probably be able to delete this modem with the R2)... For the planet and your electricity bill😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun72 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Fuzy said: PS : (for information: if your access provider has provided you with FTI identifiers (pppoe), you will probably be able to delete this modem with the R2)... For the planet and your electricity bill😉 How will I know if my ISP has provided me with FTI identifiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 What is your ISP? Either it was sent to you by post or email, or accessible via your customer account on their web page, or by calling customer service! Alix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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