Kahari Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'm getting strict and moderate NAT types in PC games. How can I fix this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Alex Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 You might need to do some port forwarding. Look up online what ports need to be forwarded for the game you're playing. Also, let me know what your XR500 is connected to upstream, it might be that we need to put the XR500 into the DMZ of the upstream router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 I’m completely new to PC so I would need a step by step tutorial on what to do. How would I find out if is connected to upstream? I did add it to my geofilter. How would I forward the ports? I do know the port numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Alex Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Sorry I should've made that clearer, what I mean by "upstream" is, what is the XR500's yellow WAN port connected to? To do port forwarding, go to Settings > Advanced Settings > Port Forwarding and then Add Custom Service. Now you need to enter the required ports, you can usually find this on the website of the game you're playing, or by searching "<game title> port forwarding" on Google. Now select your device from the list, hopefully you'll be able to see it by it's title. If not, you could open Command Prompt on your PC and type "ipconfig", this will show you your IP address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 The WAN port is connected to my modem via ethernet. (always has been) I don't have this NAT problem with console. Only with PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 15, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 15, 2019 If you remove your PC from the Geo-Filter is the NAT then open? Have you also performed the port forwards as suggested by Alex? What game(s) are you playing on PC? PC games usually don't show a NAT status unless it's something like CoD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 I’m playing COD on PC. When it was removed from the Geofilter, NAT type was strict. (Which led me to try adding it to the geofilter) It is now moderate. Tried the port forwarding and it’s still moderate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 15, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 15, 2019 That's odd it would usually be the other way around. What is your modem model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 Netgear cm1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 17, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 17, 2019 Have you put your console in the router DMZ by any chance? If so then you may be having port conflicts so I would suggest removing that and then just using UPnP and see if you get an open NAT then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 No I haven’t tried that. How would I do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Alex Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Well Fraser appears to be suggesting not to do it, but you can put your PS4 into the DMZ by going to DumaOS > Settings > Setup > WAN Setup. Now tick Default DMZ Server and enter the PS4's IP address. You can find the IP address in device manager if you don't know it, or the connection information on the PS4 itself. Once you've done that, go to LAN Setup, press ADD at the bottom, choose your PS4 from the list and press ADD again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hey Alex, this topic is actually for PC. Does the same method apply? But I don't think I was completely clear as well. I don't believe I've put the PC in DMZ. Only in the Geofilter. My question is, How would I go about only using uPnP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunaikinti Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Change your nat from secured to open under wan settings. https://kb.netgear.com/23020/Opening-ports-for-internet-games-and-applications-on-NETGEAR-routers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 19, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Kahari said: Hey Alex, this topic is actually for PC. Does the same method apply? But I don't think I was completely clear as well. I don't believe I've put the PC in DMZ. Only in the Geofilter. My question is, How would I go about only using uPnP? Yes still applies for PC. UPnP is enabled by default so if you didn't disable this before trying port forwarding then you may be getting conflicts here so if you remove your port forwarding rules that will just allow UPnP to open ports that are needed. Try it that way, then if that doesn't work you could actually try putting it into the DMZ or the suggestion above as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 Putting it in the DMZ worked. But how much of a risk is it to my computer using that method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 19, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Kahari said: Putting it in the DMZ worked. But how much of a risk is it to my computer using that method? It's not ideal so I wouldn't suggest keeping it like that. So using UPnP on its own didn't keep the NAT Open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 The uPnP method kept it moderate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 19, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 19, 2019 The Geo-Filter can sometimes cause misreadings for the CoD NAT status. This just means that you're actually open but it's showing as moderate most likely because the filter is blocking their NAT server. Easiest way to tell is to boot up the game with the Geo-Filter in Spectating Mode and see if it appears open then. If so then you can just keep it in Filtering Mode and ignore the reading they give you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahari Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 Tried booting the game up in spectating mode with the DMZ unchecked, and it went back to Moderate. The message it gives is: “The game tried to use UDP port 3074 to open the required port for an open NAT in-game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted October 20, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 20, 2019 Does port 3074 show up in the UPnP table list when CoD is on? Have you tried Sunaikinti's suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Alex Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 DMZ is a good troubleshooting step but is a bad long term solution due to it's security vulnerabilities, especially if you're using a PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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