xr450owner Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 I ensured cellular data is turned off which got me thinking. That toggle is worded cellular “data” and not necessarily cellular “voice” as well. I can confirm data does not work with it turned off along with WiFi. But does that toggle truly disable all carrier functionaity on the device? The rabbit hole grows deeper. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr500user Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 airplane mode should mean all radios shut off , otherwise you may down many airplanes or kill people in the hospitals. lol. if you toggle wifi on it should not toggle on any other radios, so if call works, wifi calling is working .. unless iphone sneaks on the celluar radios? which could be deadly. i know in galaxy its most definitely off it could be just that whatever the phone uses to detect wifi calling is having an issue with the 450, so it's just not showing you that message , but it's actually on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr450owner Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 I totally agree, airplane mode should shut everything off, except if you turn on WiFi and Bluetooth manually. But on iOS, i am not convinced it does. I have no way of ensuring the device is using Wi-Fi calling, except for that logo. But I dont think that logo means it is for sure using wifi calling. For when I was able to make a call on airplane mode, i believe it was cellular because the voice quality sounded muddy like on 4G and not crystal clear like when on Wi-FI calling. All the other times my phone attempts to call on Wi-Fi, its straight up call failed, like its being blocked. Also, I have a Galaxy S6 and it appears to be working just fine with Wi-Fi calling on the XR450. More variables to add to the madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major masingil Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, xr450owner said: I totally agree, airplane mode should shut everything off, except if you turn on WiFi and Bluetooth manually. But on iOS, i am not convinced it does. I have no way of ensuring the device is using Wi-Fi calling, except for that logo. But I dont think that logo means it is for sure using wifi calling. For when I was able to make a call on airplane mode, i believe it was cellular because the voice quality sounded muddy like on 4G and not crystal clear like when on Wi-FI calling. All the other times my phone attempts to call on Wi-Fi, its straight up call failed, like its being blocked. Also, I have a Galaxy S6 and it appears to be working just fine with Wi-Fi calling on the XR450. More variables to add to the madness. in the States we have this thing called e911. Its a way for emergency services to locate a cell phone's GPS position. I guess you Brits have something similar. I would imagine the radios cannot be turned off by airplane mode, because how else would the man be able to zoom in on your position when you're being all nefarious? Maybe whatever is left on for those purposes is all wifi calling needs to validate a call? it's possible? It's also possible that @xr450owner just exposed an issue with iphone radios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr450owner Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 This appears to the most concise article on what is required from a network level to allow WiFi calling that I have found. Will report back after I do more testing at home https://www.networkcomputing.com/networking/your-network-optimized-wifi-calling/292001714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr450owner Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Recent troubleshooting efforts with XR450: UPnP turned on, Disable SIP ALG checked, Disable IGMP checked, no port forwarding or triggering enabled, no QoS enabled. iPhone 7, iOS 11.4.1, Verizon: Wi-Fi calling not working. Turning off cellular data still allows me to make calls. Turning Airplane mode on, with only Wi-Fi enabled, does not allow Wi-Fi calling, icon does not even pop up even though Wi-Fi calling option is enabled on device. Seems to be blocked. iPhone 7 Plus, iOS 12.1.1, AT&T: Had Wi-Fi calling reset around noon by carrier. Turning off cellular data still allows me to make calls. Wi-Fi calling intermittent, but can't confirm it's actually Wi-Fi calling and not cellular. Turning on airplane mode with only Wi-Fi enabled, Wi-Fi icon popped up once and I made a call, but sound quality sounds like cellular. Initially worked with Airplane mode on, but now will not. Seems to be blocked. Samsung S6, 7.0, Verizon: Wi-Fi calling appears to be working. Put device in airplane mode. Turned only Wi-Fi on and was able to make calls. Cellular option isn't even available when airplane mode is turned on, as should be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr450owner Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Testing performed with TP-Link Archer C8 router: So now I am 100% convinced it's an issue with the Netgear router. Plugged in my old router and connected both iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. Put both in airplane mode. Both phones immediately popped up with the Wi-Fi icon and I was able to make calls, no blockage at all. Both had the clear sound quality associated with Wi-Fi calling. I love the XR450 for everything but it's inability to support Wi-Fi calling on iPhones. I will be forced to go back to my TP-Link for now. Can any admins confirm this issue will be fixed anytime soon with Netgear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Killhippie Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Disable Port Scan and DoS Protection: unchecked Default DMZ Server: unchecked Respond to Ping on Internet Port: unchecked Disable IGMP Proxy is checked Nat Filtering is set to secured MTU Size 1492 (PPPoE) Disabled SIP ALG unchecked Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted December 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted December 7, 2018 Could you see if Killhippies WAN Settings work for you please? We can't give any estimates on when they may fix it unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr450owner Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Finally got around to testing suggested settings. I updated to the latest firmware (2.3.2.40) and tested @Killhippie settings. Still not working. My return window closes this week so I’ll be forced to return the router. Was hoping to keep for the geo filter feature but no WiFi calling is a killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Jack Posted December 18, 2018 Netduma Staff Share Posted December 18, 2018 18 hours ago, xr450owner said: Finally got around to testing suggested settings. I updated to the latest firmware (2.3.2.40) and tested @Killhippie settings. Still not working. My return window closes this week so I’ll be forced to return the router. Was hoping to keep for the geo filter feature but no WiFi calling is a killer. I'm sorry to hear that. WiFi calling is something that should be addressed in the future - there's a lot of exciting features on the horizon. As Fraser said though, since these kinds of features are designed by Netgear, we have no idea when the release date would be for any potential fix. It does seem like we've reached the bottom of the barrel for solutions here, so hopefully this issue will be solved sooner rather than later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHeHe Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I found the solution, setup a guest network and only connect the phone (wifi calling) to guest network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeeWii Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, HeHeHe said: I found the solution, setup a guest network and only connect the phone (wifi calling) to guest network. I’m not sure how this is a solution. Presumably your phone then can’t interact with any other devices on your main network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHeHe Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 wifi calling will on and off if connected to main network, but guest network will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted July 6, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2019 Thanks for posting your workaround, I'll let the team know so then Netgear can focus on the differences between why it does and doesn't work on the normal/guest WiFi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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