Acebri Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I am an ok solo domination player 568 spm 68k kills 25k deaths domination only so I'm not bad at the game , I find myself getting outgunned a lot against players not using fast hands and no QuickDraw I'm dead before I can raise my gun up and I'm using fast hands and QuickDraw combined this is happening a lot recently, was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this or as the title says is it just me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apowell Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 It's not just you. That's why I don't really play bo3 too much. Even with the Duma settings it basically happens to me all the time. The latency and lag comp in this game are beyond anything I've experienced in past cod's. But I don't get it because some people will tell you they have no problems. Between this and the stupid match making and glitchy parties and lobbies, being thrown into games that have started already, and the ridiculous supply drops, I've just had enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urge Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 All of us get outgunned. Those are very good numbers and judging by your numbers it isn't happening often. But it happens to us all at times. Nothing to worry about especially with the stats you presented Also perks don't make the player. Everyone tailors their perks to what works best for them, so while you may be a great player with your set up; someone else could be just as good of a player with a different loadout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Most of the time or should I say 99% I end up with 5 team mates, there is something very wrong with this game and on the of that, this game is full of trolls. which makes this game totally boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebri Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 All of us get outgunned. Those are very good numbers and judging by your numbers it isn't happening often. But it happens to us all at times. Nothing to worry about especially with the stats you presented Also perks don't make the player. Everyone tailors their perks to what works best for them, so while you may be a great player with your set up; someone else could be just as good of a player with a different loadout. Thanks, like you said my stats show that i dnt struggle too much , i just dont understand how someone can out gun me when we both bump into each other no one pre aiming and my opponent instant melts me with no quickdraw or fast hands equiped before i can pull my gun up were as i am using quickdraw and fast hands . I have tried going no quickdraw and fast hands and have no chance against anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urge Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Probably that ol ping comp thing that gets us all at times. I'd say they prob had crappy net and saw you first even though it didn't look that way. If they played at home instead of McDonald's you probably would have smacked em round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Everyone should look into their own connection if they see this a lot, if you don't have a stable line then this will happen plenty (speaking from experience). I have constant jitter and regular (like every few seconds) lag spikes and it happens to me all the time, friends on stable connections don't see this much at all. BO3 is a very fast paced game with quick deaths/kills, I think it exposes any instability in your line. You'll see 'melts', bullets round corners, one-bullet-to-the-foot deaths, etc. If this wasn't the case and it was purely the game then everyone would experience it all the time. I've been forced to change ISP because mine isn't reliable enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The supply drops are weak, but with some people getting 5-6 supply drops each game, so I can kind of understand. I remember reading the post about how they broke down the % of the drops and if you should re-roll to get something better. You're talking about care packages as a scorestreak right? You can re-roll those with engineer. I think he's talking about the bonus content supply drops where you 'earn' stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urge Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 You're talking about care packages as a scorestreak right? You can re-roll those with engineer. I think he's talking about the bonus content supply drops where you 'earn' stuff. Yeah i think he was talking about the crypto boxes as well. I just have to shake my head when i see people bash em. I could care less one way or another if they are in the game - those weapons are not over powered at all. They are just different. Sure it sucks if you want a knife or gun and see others with it while you can't get it, but those weapons are not game changers. And why are cosmetic outfits a problem? They don't change the game either. This is one of the silliest complaints about the game - it really is literally just complaining to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'd rather have the supply drops from BO3 than the 'buy your camo' from Advanced Warefare. The AW 'extra-power' weapons annoyed me in that too - at least that doesn't happen in BO3. But I would really like the FFAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebri Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Everyone should look into their own connection if they see this a lot, if you don't have a stable line then this will happen plenty (speaking from experience). I have constant jitter and regular (like every few seconds) lag spikes and it happens to me all the time, friends on stable connections don't see this much at all. BO3 is a very fast paced game with quick deaths/kills, I think it exposes any instability in your line. You'll see 'melts', bullets round corners, one-bullet-to-the-foot deaths, etc. If this wasn't the case and it was purely the game then everyone would experience it all the time. I've been forced to change ISP because mine isn't reliable enough. I have two choices of Isp bt who i am currently with and sky. I have put up my ping plotter results , netduma diagnostic results and no one has said to me that i have a problem . My ping base is in the 30 s . Do i phone my isp and complain about a problem and if so what do i say to get a more stable connection . I am a noob at this kind of stuff and would love to hear suggestions for what i can/should do. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I have two choices of Isp bt who i am currently with and sky. I have put up my ping plotter results , netduma diagnostic results and no one has said to me that i have a problem . My ping base is in the 30 s . Do i phone my isp and complain about a problem and if so what do i say to get a more stable connection . I am a noob at this kind of stuff and would love to hear suggestions for what i can/should do. Thanks You have a base ping of 30ms on BT? That seems unusually high, considering my shitty Virgin ping is about 23ms (if I disregard the jitter). I doubt you'll get far talking to your ISP if there is nothing obvious to report - your ISP may(?!) prick up their ears over evidence like 'ping plotter' or a 'thinkbroadband' graph but they won't give half a shit if you say you're getting melted in BO3. Have you got a thinkbroadband graph running? Let me find your ping plotter results and have a look... edit - can't find them, where did you post them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebri Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 You have a base ping of 30ms on BT? That seems unusually high, considering my shitty Virgin ping is about 23ms (if I disregard the jitter). I doubt you'll get far talking to your ISP if there is nothing obvious to report - your ISP may(?!) prick up their ears over evidence like 'ping plotter' or a 'thinkbroadband' graph but they won't give half a shit if you say you're getting melted in BO3. Have you got a thinkbroadband graph running? Let me find your ping plotter results and have a look... edit - can't find them, where did you post them? never heard of think broad band graph . Not sure on my base ping. BT ISP . Most of my games on black ops 3 are between 35 and 42 ping on my netduma . Sorry im not very good with this stuff . My ping plotter results are in my xbox one lag black ops 3 post in my content done 4 weeks ago. Also not sure if this helps Run Test Ping Good Jitter Exceptional Spikes Exceptional Packet Loss 4 Show Details Ping PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=1 ttl=51 time=27.209 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=2 ttl=51 time=27.409 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=3 ttl=51 time=27.242 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=4 ttl=51 time=27.245 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=5 ttl=51 time=26.948 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=6 ttl=51 time=27.101 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=7 ttl=51 time=27.069 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=8 ttl=51 time=27.177 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=9 ttl=51 time=27.112 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=10 ttl=51 time=27.400 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=11 ttl=51 time=27.220 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=13 ttl=51 time=27.611 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=14 ttl=51 time=27.238 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=15 ttl=51 time=27.279 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=16 ttl=51 time=27.285 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=17 ttl=51 time=27.317 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=18 ttl=51 time=27.332 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=20 ttl=51 time=27.182 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=21 ttl=51 time=27.203 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=23 ttl=51 time=27.224 ms --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 24 packets transmitted, 20 packets received, 16% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 26.948/27.240/27.611 ms Trace traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 192.168.1.254 0.624 ms 0.621 ms 0.610 ms 2 217.32.142.197 10.704 ms 10.709 ms 10.670 ms 3 217.32.142.222 11.622 ms 11.697 ms 11.695 ms 4 212.140.206.50 18.859 ms 18.670 ms 18.559 ms 5 31.55.165.45 16.760 ms 16.513 ms 16.961 ms 6 31.55.165.107 17.027 ms 16.701 ms 17.053 ms 7 109.159.250.100 16.598 ms 109.159.250.70 19.933 ms 109.159.250.54 16.225 ms 8 109.159.250.5 25.030 ms 109.159.255.153 26.923 ms 109.159.252.219 29.954 ms 9 109.159.254.165 27.513 ms 109.159.254.102 26.916 ms 109.159.254.169 24.202 ms 10 195.99.126.185 25.233 ms 24.705 ms 24.735 ms 11 216.239.54.223 24.687 ms 216.239.54.235 25.372 ms 72.14.233.201 24.998 ms 12 216.239.58.107 26.214 ms 216.239.57.107 25.085 ms 26.038 ms 13 8.8.8.8 28.599 ms 26.258 ms 24.723 ms. I am currently experiencing packet loss between 5-10 have tried factory resetting netduma still experiencing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 That's not 'ping plotter'. Ping plotter is a piece of software where you can record your ping over several hours (preferably at peak time, while you don't use the network at all, over ethernet cable). It will help us troubleshoot. If you've done an actual graph using pingplotter then post the link to your post, as I said, I can't find it in your other threads. thinkbroadband is a website were you set up a graph for your external IP address. edit - whatever the issue with your connection, that is causing your 'meltings', it is more than likely the same issue in your other threads. By creating more than one thread you are spreading your support out more thinly which will likely make it slower to resolve. I've had another look for your pingplotter screenshots, can't find anything. Please post the link or re-up the images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zennon Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 The images are so small I can not read them, but the ping itself looks steady. You have quite a deep interleaving set on the line by the DLM you must of had some disconnections or you turn off your modem/router of on a night and the DLM has seen this as errors. Are you on fibre and what make is your green cabinet? http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/fttc-cabinets.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebri Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 im on fibre and my cabinet is Huawei 288fttc cabinet. These ping plots were taken a few days after receiving a new bthh5 i can try get new results to post but it will be impossible for me to run tests after 17:00 due to the kids. The bthh never gets turned off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Is it a version A by any chance as they do not fully support G.inp so you have an interleaved line instead of fast path with on the fly G.inp error correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebri Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 i have a type b bthh5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 As the bbc plot is fine we can deduce that Google is still playing up badly. The plot is ok, you do have interleaving on the line though, see my above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebri Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 having followed this to do a speed test Reactive Algorithm 100% anti-flood Share excess enabled Reset device prioritisation & apply Disable IPv6 in WAN, LAN & misc Disable deep packet in misc Enable turbo mode Ensure the ethernet cables you're using connecting the R1 to hub & R1 to PC are Cat5e+/can handle your speeds. Do a wired speed test from a PC i am getting speeds of 8.43 download out of 77 and upload of 4.89 out of 19 and this test is done via http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/ i dont have a clue what is going on with my line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Do you normally get much closer to the max speed or is this close to what you normally get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebri Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 i am usually around 60 - 77 download and 18 upload . i keep getting this problem every 2-3 weeks .i have recently had a new bthh5 sent out to see if this fixes the problem but it is still happening the only way i can seem to fix it is to turn off my bthh5 a few times then its fine but i have been told not to keep doing this as it messes up my line . i have not had this problem for a few weeks now and boom again it rises .what should i do keep turning my hub off as this seems to be the only solution EDIT when i run a detailed network statistics from my netduma - xbox one wired i am getting 74.33 download and 18.38 upload when i run a speed test from my netduma - laptop wired i am getting speeds of 8.43 download out of 77 and upload of 4.89 out of 19 . so i think my speeds are ok and by the sounds of things i think nothing can be done about my line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 31, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 31, 2016 In terms of game ping vs your base ping you're getting a very low game ping given what your base ping is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonicBoom Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I've got cable internet and never had this huge drop in speeds (whatever you do don't change to cable by the way cos the game suffers badly on Virgin for me). I don't have any experience with BT internet or any 'phone line internet' actually so I don't really know if they are prone to this at all. Do you mean that when the Xbox / Netduma shows high speeds the laptop is showing low speeds, within the same period? Or when the speed drops on one it drops for all? (Obviously don't test them both at exactly the same time, turn off the Xbox completely when you want to test the laptop - if Xbox is in hyperlane it will hold up some of the speed). If your ping is good then I wouldn't restart, tempting as it no doubt is. Do your speeds shoot back up again if you don't do anything, like the following day? Or do they stay low permanently unless you reboot? (I'd test this out and see if it changes back on it's own). Also, swap the cables over and test them both again. You know you can get high speeds through the Xbox so that cable is good. See if the Xbox still gets those same speeds on the laptop's cable and vice versa. And is the laptop up to date? drivers and whatnot. If your Xbox is getting the high speeds then you know it's getting through the Netduma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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