CryptoKeys - what a joke!

[DARK BAWGS]

Today I cashed in 1,252 keys and guess what I got - junk!  No weapons, no really interesting camo just a bunch of cards I will never use.  Gun camo's that are useless as I have Diamond on most and am working to Dark Matter.  Anyone that wastes money on coins is nuts!  I have since the start cash in thousands of keys and got only on weapon a sniper rifle that I don't care if i every use. 

 

Note besides the original 1,252 I cashed in all the duplicates and yes I did try some of the 60 point bribes but they were nothing special at all.

 

This whole thing is not worth the bother as far as I am concerned.  Just thought I would pass this along.

[UK_Wildcats_Fans]

Agreed. 

[ColonicBoom]

At master prestige 267 now, done most of the challenges, nearly 60,000 kills in TDM and most weapons are diamond nearly dark matter (meaning I've been through a LOT of crypto keys) and all I've unlocked is the brass knuckles...

And a butt-load of duplicates.

[Dillinger]

I had some keys I had saved up from the weekend and spent some last night.

 

60 Key bribe got me one new dance, "The Dip Low".   I had it already, but I remember being disappointed that 60 keys went that fast as that was ALL that I got that was "Rare" or above.

 

30 key normal crate got me an Argus fast mag variant, a Rare "Confusion" Good game gesture and a Steampunk (Legendary) head, both for Battery.  Scam much?  Half the price and better gear?

 

I then open a 10 key crate and got one blue item I already had and two basic camos I already had.  Repeated the process and had to cash in all six things I opened as dupes to get 5 crypto keys back, so yeah.  That was worth 20 keys.  

 

My analysis is in line with yours DB - Not worth the "bribe" price and if I had spent money on that lame of an opening I would have been more than disappointed.

[daz]

i had a theory that when a weapon comes out they go into the normal supply drop rotation for a while so some people get them without paying but then are removed so you can ony get from the paying ones but my bro got knuckle dusters the other day so that idea is busted lol

[Macca65]

I have just got SHIT but who's complaining

[SM961]

It's a scam people don't fall for it.

[MrTrakky]

Today I cashed in 1,252 keys and guess what I got - junk!  No weapons, no really interesting camo just a bunch of cards I will never use.  Gun camo's that are useless as I have Diamond on most and am working to Dark Matter.  Anyone that wastes money on coins is nuts!  I have since the start cash in thousands of keys and got only on weapon a sniper rifle that I don't care if i every use. 

 

Note besides the original 1,252 I cashed in all the duplicates and yes I did try some of the 60 point bribes but they were nothing special at all.

 

This whole thing is not worth the bother as far as I am concerned.  Just thought I would pass this along.

Thats ridiculous mate surely the game should recognise the time you've put in and reward you with at least one decent drop 

[ColonicBoom]

the 'bribe' crates are definitely not worth it, neither are the cheap ones in my opinion. I always unlock the 30 key crates

[ColonicBoom]

still got sod all to show for it though

[iAmMoDBoX]

I have 13 days played, 3.0 k/d, 5.0 win/loss and I've spent easily 3,500+ keys and never got a single weapon.

 

I got a refund for my DLC maps, and since I had 14.99 sitting in my PSN wallet I decided to throw another 5$ into it and buy a 19.99 cod point pack.

 

I got the Shadow Claw, MX Garand, and the sword. All with a single $20 opening.

 

So to me 3,500+ keys couldn't get a single weapon, but a $20 cod points opening gets 3... Just proves that you have to pay for a weapon.

[fuzzy clam]

I don't buy the keys but agree that it's almost like they know who buys the keys and who doesn't,and when you buy you get better shit.I know that's not the case but damn if it doesn't seem like it,goes along with my" they flip the switch at halftime" of DOM theory...

[daz]

I don't buy the keys but agree that it's almost like they know who buys the keys and who doesn't,and when you buy you get better shit.I know that's not the case but damn if it doesn't seem like it,goes along with my" they flip the switch at halftime" of DOM theory...

but if it wasnt the case your money would buy you crypto keys and you would just click on the 30 crypto key box but instead you have to click on the 200 cod points so they do know if you bought or earned when you click on the supply drop

[JConnor]

In an ironic twist of events, a lot of the CoD Community is now fed-up with Supply Drops and other microDLC, and are taking a visible stand against Activision.

 

Somebody did a YT video where they calculated the chances of getting anything worthwhile were like 1/2500, or more. That seems to be accurate from the majority of people's reports.

 

David Vondeharr apparently fought tooth and nail for paid Supply Drops & CoD points to not be in BO3, but of course, he has no choice since he's just an employee, but he then gets unfairly lambasted by the public since he is the "face" of Treyarch. If you notice, he did NOT make any Tweets when Activision announced you could buy SD and CoD Coins because he doesn't support it. This was why he took a vacation -- literally and figuratively -- When they were announced.

 

The reason Supply Drops were in AW was because they were originally *NOT* supposed to be microtransactions... Which is true. If you recall, if you just played the game long enough you got Supply Drops. The idea behind them was to re-invigorate the stagnating playerbase since Ghosts had the lowest player retention rate of ALL CoDs ever released. The "problem" was then greedy Activision higher-ups then started to see how much money Valve was making with CSGO cases and immediately drew a (false) parallel, and voila! We have the paid Supply Drops we have today. The funny thing is they didn't look deep enough because Valve doesn't make money on cases, or keys. They make more money like  Ebay and other third-party seller sites where they get a cut of the player-driven market place. AW didn't have this, oddly enough, right, but I digress.

 

Also, apparently all the weapons you can get like the MX Garand, et al. were supposed to be included in the DLC packs... Just like BO2... But of course, Acitivision turned it into a P2W model just like AW because they know kids -- their primary market -- Will eat this stuff up like a fat kid going on a buffet binger.

 

The sad part of this whole thing is it all boils down to legalized gambling for underage minors.

 

That's all it is.

 

I heard a story where a fellow CoD player was in the video game section of a retail store and this mother and her son were there looking for games for the boys birthday. He said, he wanted to spend his bithday money on Supply Drops for BO3.

 

If that doesn't show how fucked up and utterly immoral Activision is, I don't know what will.

 

The upside is, as stated, a lot of YT are taking a stand with "Blackmarket Blackout" and boycotting the likes of TMartn, Drift0r, etc. who basically ride the Activision dick and promote this crap to underage kids...

[daz]

i try my best to make sure my son doesnt by any virtual crap with real money, i let him now and then but not as much as he would like, i also used to tell him to stop buying digital copies of games and to buy the hard copy cause he cant always sell the hard copy but thats changed since we discovered how to share digital copies across my and his xbox so its 2 for price of 1

[iAmMoDBoX]

I don't buy the keys but agree that it's almost like they know who buys the keys and who doesn't,and when you buy you get better shit.I know that's not the case but damn if it doesn't seem like it,goes along with my" they flip the switch at halftime" of DOM theory...

 

I didn't technically buy them since it was money sitting in my PSN account from a refund I considered it money spent anyway. So to shell out $5 and basically get the weapons people spent hundreds and didn't get is a win in my book.

 

I also believe that there is a lag switch that is flipped at certain times in game. For example, I am a hardcore search player and we can win 2 rounds of search without a problem but then that third round it's like none of your bullets count. The losing team suddenly is unstoppable and wins by some across the map 360 hip fire luck taking out 5 people at once. It is really odd and I'm not the only person who sees this "coincidence"

 

In an ironic twist of events, a lot of the CoD Community is now fed-up with Supply Drops and other microDLC, and are taking a visible stand against Activision.

 

Somebody did a YT video where they calculated the chances of getting anything worthwhile were like 1/2500, or more. That seems to be accurate from the majority of people's reports.

 

David Vondeharr apparently fought tooth and nail for paid Supply Drops & CoD points to not be in BO3, but of course, he has no choice since he's just an employee, but he then gets unfairly lambasted by the public since he is the "face" of Treyarch. If you notice, he did NOT make any Tweets when Activision announced you could buy SD and CoD Coins because he doesn't support it. This was why he took a vacation -- literally and figuratively -- When they were announced.

 

The reason Supply Drops were in AW was because they were originally *NOT* supposed to be microtransactions... Which is true. If you recall, if you just played the game long enough you got Supply Drops. The idea behind them was to re-invigorate the stagnating playerbase since Ghosts had the lowest player retention rate of ALL CoDs ever released. The "problem" was then greedy Activision higher-ups then started to see how much money Valve was making with CSGO cases and immediately drew a (false) parallel, and voila! We have the paid Supply Drops we have today. The funny thing is they didn't look deep enough because Valve doesn't make money on cases, or keys. They make more money like  Ebay and other third-party seller sites where they get a cut of the player-driven market place. AW didn't have this, oddly enough, right, but I digress.

 

Also, apparently all the weapons you can get like the MX Garand, et al. were supposed to be included in the DLC packs... Just like BO2... But of course, Acitivision turned it into a P2W model just like AW because they know kids -- their primary market -- Will eat this stuff up like a fat kid going on a buffet binger.

 

The sad part of this whole thing is it all boils down to legalized gambling for underage minors.

 

That's all it is.

 

I heard a story where a fellow CoD player was in the video game section of a retail store and this mother and her son were there looking for games for the boys birthday. He said, he wanted to spend his bithday money on Supply Drops for BO3.

 

If that doesn't show how fucked up and utterly immoral Activision is, I don't know what will.

 

The upside is, as stated, a lot of YT are taking a stand with "Blackmarket Blackout" and boycotting the likes of TMartn, Drift0r, etc. who basically ride the Activision dick and promote this crap to underage kids...

 

 

This video pretty much sums up that... Especially the end how youtubers are the reason why COD is the way it is today.

 

[daz]

Na it ain't the youtubers fault it's the community being dumb shits that's the problem cause they should understand that you tubers do it for a living and not only is the money spent nothing to them compared to joe public but for them it's also an investment , if a pro stunt man jumps the Grand Canyon on a rocket powered disability scooter while he's blind folded hands tied behind back and on fire then he ain't to blame if some idiot copies him

[ColonicBoom]

 

I also believe that there is a lag switch that is flipped at certain times in game. For example, I am a hardcore search player and we can win 2 rounds of search without a problem but then that third round it's like none of your bullets count. The losing team suddenly is unstoppable and wins by some across the map 360 hip fire luck taking out 5 people at once. It is really odd and I'm not the only person who sees this "coincidence"

 

 

I'm certain there is a 'switch' in game (even TDM) to rectify any perceived mismatch in team-balancing that the game didn't foresee.

I've been in tons of games where a team of nubs is being completely destroyed and then suddenly something changes and they become lucky-terminators while I suddenly lose the ability to aim and then couldn't hit a barndoor with a dustbin lid (I've been on both side of it though).

 

I've noticed when this happens the auto-aim seems to take a massive nose-dive or a massive 'roid-boost, depending if you're the dominator or the dominated.

 

Was in one last week and we were about 30-1 up in TDM (it was over a quarter of the kills required before the other team got a second kill) within a very short space of time and then suddenly our top 3 guys that were around 10-0, 10-0, 10-1 (me, gutted as I was the only death at this point), couldn't kill anyone.

Nothing changed, nobody left, we were on the dedi, no visible lag, the other team were still absolute trash, the killcams showed them waving their guns aimlessly at us (rather than accurately picking heads off) and they pulled us back with head shot after joke headshot until they caught us and it was tight until the end. Basically everyone broke even on their K/D and I think the game was won by a single kill in the end.

 

There's no way that that team of dominated nubs suddenly became incredible and manages to even things up.

 

Obviously this doesn't always happen, sometimes they get beasted all the way to the finish, I just felt like the beating is so severe in that particular game that it decided to even things up. I know that sounds a bit 'sour-grapes' but I've had it both ways, 1-15 on Combine was the worst I remember before it flipped and then I got a 20ish kill-streak to finish.

 

I'm not good enough to do that without super-auto-aim-headshot-time, and I'm not bad enough to be that distracted for half a game.

[ColonicBoom]

And on the cryptokey subject, I think the odds are actually way worse than their research showed - it's never 1 weapon per 40 crates, I've must have opened about 300 rare crates and only got one weapon.

 

I've got something stupid like nearly 17days of game time, and 1000's of matches, and I generally go for maximum points and challenges so I get a lot of those crappy cryptos.

I didn't even use a gold camo gun, not once!, I pretty much always went straight to the next weapon until I had diamond for the set to progress as fast as possible.

 

And yet Mod Box bought one pack of coins and got three DLC weapons...

Jesus, how crooked is this game?!

[iAmMoDBoX]

And on the cryptokey subject, I think the odds are actually way worse than their research showed - it's never 1 weapon per 40 crates, I've must have opened about 300 rare crates and only got one weapon.

 

I've got something stupid like nearly 17days of game time, and 1000's of matches, and I generally go for maximum points and challenges so I get a lot of those crappy cryptos.

I didn't even use a gold camo gun, not once!, I pretty much always went straight to the next weapon until I had diamond for the set to progress as fast as possible.

 

And yet Mod Box bought one pack of coins and got three DLC weapons...

Jesus, how crooked is this game?!

 

I did get the iron jim in a common drop on my 2nd account last week. Just to be fair.

[daz]

Glad I'm not the only one noticing the switch, I've had loads of games where I go from being a god to not being able to kill timmy no thumbs

[DARK BAWGS]

i had a theory that when a weapon comes out they go into the normal supply drop rotation for a while so some people get them without paying but then are removed so you can ony get from the paying ones but my bro got knuckle dusters the other day so that idea is busted lol

I absolutely agree, I was going to add a comment to that effect in my post since I have felt since the beginning that the only way to get the weapons is if you buy coins.  Just another reason these developers are not interested in the community only in how they can screw more money form the suckers.  This also supports my current thoughts that with the next COD I will be looking for something else - if it is space oriented I might as well save my money and go back on my Xbox to play Halo or Destiny!

Unfortunately the only way to see things get better is by not buying - but we all know that won't happen - we are too hooked!

[fuzzy clam]

Glad I'm not the only one noticing the switch, I've had loads of games where I go from being a god to not being able to kill timmy no thumbs

I've always said that as it just happens way to often to just be a coincidence.The way I look at it if I have a bad first half, (on DOM) I'm gonna have a good second half and vice versa.

[DARK BAWGS]

In an ironic twist of events, a lot of the CoD Community is now fed-up with Supply Drops and other microDLC, and are taking a visible stand against Activision.

 

Somebody did a YT video where they calculated the chances of getting anything worthwhile were like 1/2500, or more. That seems to be accurate from the majority of people's reports.

 

The upside is, as stated, a lot of YT are taking a stand with "Blackmarket Blackout" and boycotting the likes of TMartn, Drift0r, etc. who basically ride the Activision dick and promote this crap to underage kids...

Excellent synopsis JC;

I only excerpted these few lines as they are the focus of my comments.  First 1/2,500 contradicts what Drif0r reported in his "In Depth" which indicated it was much lower, that is if I got the message correct.  I stopped following these folks because of their blindly following the Activision mission.

 

Xclusive Ace recently did a video on "Lag Compensation Explained" it was interesting but I really appreciate his honest comments regarding Tryarch not updating their engines as COD has one of the worst lag comp systems in the industry = because they won't invest to update to current technology - I know this is off topic but it is germane to the issue of the developers not caring about the quality of the product but rather maximize their returns in the short term.  Unfortunately this is an epidemic in Corporate America (includes Canada).

 

I spent a lot of my career in major corporate boardrooms and can't tell you the number of times the chief ex would make a decision that wasn't concerned about the long term impact on the company but would maximize his/her bonus or move up to a bigger job!  That is why I retired at 55 as soon as I could get out - I just couldn't stand it and constantly got in trouble for speaking up...

 

Obviously this is an issue that is very close to my heart; sorry but I had to vent...

[JConnor]

I'm certain there is a 'switch' in game (even TDM) to rectify any perceived mismatch in team-balancing that the game didn't foresee.

I've been in tons of games where a team of nubs is being completely destroyed and then suddenly something changes and they become lucky-terminators while I suddenly lose the ability to aim and then couldn't hit a barndoor with a dustbin lid (I've been on both side of it though).

 

I've noticed when this happens the auto-aim seems to take a massive nose-dive or a massive 'roid-boost, depending if you're the dominator or the dominated.

 

[...]

 

There's no way that that team of dominated nubs suddenly became incredible and manages to even things up.

 

This may sound like Tin Foil Hat speak, but I agree 100%.

 

When I still played BO3, I think myself and others even commented on this "phenomena" early in the games life cycle, but without proof all it is a theory... Which is perfect for Activision because of plausible deniability. However, I would not put it past them (or the devs) to include something like this because let's face it: CoD is a very EASY game to pick up and play. Contrary to popular belief, you CAN master it in about a week, or so, unless you are brain-dead. So, it makes sense there has to be *something* to keep players coming back for more.

 

Also, if "CoD 2016" -- Funny how they are avoiding calling it Ghosts 2 -- Is going to be another futuristic shooter, I think Activision's greed has finally jumped the shark and will ultimately come back to bite them in their corporate ass... Because some of the CoD players in their 20s (who were teens when MW2 dropped) are seeing the game for what it really is: Just a cash grab aimed at children who don't know any better and will take whatever is handed to them under the guise it makes them special e.g. RNG supply drops, a 17-year old engine, etc.