Black ops 3 a bad game

[wrathoftank]

Don't get me wrong I do find bo3 to be fun but it certainly seems to be a very bad game avd they didn't put much thought into Whst they were doing.

Take head shots for example say your gun does 30 base damage that's 4 shots to kill = 120 damage but with a 1.1x headshot multiplier that takes 30 damage to 33 so 3x33= 99 damage so you still need 4 shots to kill and that's true for lots of the guns, the rapid fire attachment adds 6% to most of the guns making it almost useless , the silencer reduces range on them by 90%but the long barrel adds nowhere near that making lots of attachments nothing but cosmetics, there are some exceptions like high caliber on shieva but mostly they are useless so everyone runs the same QuickDraw and grip. It seems they didn't do some simple maths and just made up numbers.

Also the specialists and score streaks should be class selectable so you can run different set up in each class.

I forgot to mention this in my earlier posts, but I personally love BO3 and think it's potentially the best COD I've played.  IMO it's also the most balanced COD ever, and it's not even that close (followed by BO2).

 

All of your gripes here are actually purposefully game design decisions to keep everything in balance, and while I think maybe some of the attachments could use a buff I understand they want to keep everything in check.  Also they have probably have meaningless headshot multipliers because they want to give you a reason to use high caliber.  

[Dillinger]

You just seem to be angry and frustrated with the game,maybe you should find a new hobby as to me I haven't seen you having any problems that the rest of us haven't had or are currently having.

 

I think you got the duma and thought it would turn you into a beast player and that's just not the case.If your an average player and you get the duma,your still gonna be an average player but you'll get hosts closer to home with lower pings and the ability to use congestion control to eliminate local network congestion.And I know the duma does all that,again so what is the issue your having with the duma not working properly ?

 

That about sums it up.  It's a third party router to control acceptable hosts, better control your ping to that host and HELP with local congestion, thereby allowing for a BETTER THAN WITHOUT IT gaming experience.  I haven't read the guarantee that I would become the next YT sensation, or unstoppable player.  

 

This is a support forum FOR THE ROUTER.  No one here can change anything about the game, so again, what is the goal?  To commiserate with the like minded?  Okay, I've had bad games and quit lobbies too.  

 

At the point where you are passionate enough to write something negative for the 10th, or 50th, or 1,000th in some cases, time...... it MAY be time to start examining the course of action you are taking.

 

If your complaint is with BO3 - Then you should be complaining to the people that can affect BO3.  This is a 3rd party device that was conceived and built with ZERO interest or involvement, and with almost no information concerning, the Black Ops 3 project.

 

The very best thing for me about Ghosts, is when I stopped playing Ghosts and turned that energy and attention elsewhere.  That was a conscious choice I made because the frustration level versus the enjoyment factor was too far in the negative.

 

In sf's case, he has a problem with jitter by most accounts from the people who have reviewed his stuff.  

• That isn't a game problem.  The game may play worse. but the game is merely reacting to an existing condition.
• That isn't a router problem.  Though the router may be able to mask some of it and make some of it less likely to cause problems, it can't solve a preexisting condition.
• That IS a problem that needs to be looked into by his local service provider.  Which is where Zennon has again selflessly offered to review another set of findings to help tailor the argument needed to get them to work on the real issue.  

Now this being a support forum for the router itself and what it can do (local in-house congestion control and local host selection) I have an honest question for any of you:

 

How can the router possibly compensate for the quality of the delivery method of the "1's and 0's" getting to you when the developers have never even SEEN the results?

 

It's impossible, because of the variables, which is why the router doesn't have a guarantee stamped on the box that says you will be the "unstoppable nuclear dealing God" that apparently is the new baseline for "good".

 

Done here - my time will be better served with the canaries working on things that the router can do.

[secretface]

That about sums it up.  It's a third party router to control acceptable hosts, better control your ping to that host and HELP with local congestion, thereby allowing for a BETTER THAN WITHOUT IT gaming experience.  I haven't read the guarantee that I would become the next YT sensation, or unstoppable player.  

 

This is a support forum FOR THE ROUTER.  No one here can change anything about the game, so again, what is the goal?  To commiserate with the like minded?  Okay, I've had bad games and quit lobbies too.  

 

At the point where you are passionate enough to write something negative for the 10th, or 50th, or 1,000th in some cases, time...... it MAY be time to start examining the course of action you are taking.

 

If your complaint is with BO3 - Then you should be complaining to the people that can affect BO3.  This is a 3rd party device that was conceived and built with ZERO interest or involvement, and with almost no information concerning, the Black Ops 3 project.

 

The very best thing for me about Ghosts, is when I stopped playing Ghosts and turned that energy and attention elsewhere.  That was a conscious choice I made because the frustration level versus the enjoyment factor was too far in the negative.

 

In sf's case, he has a problem with jitter by most accounts from the people who have reviewed his stuff.  

• That isn't a game problem.  The game may play worse. but the game is merely reacting to an existing condition.
• That isn't a router problem.  Though the router may be able to mask some of it and make some of it less likely to cause problems, it can't solve a preexisting condition.
• That IS a problem that needs to be looked into by his local service provider.  Which is where Zennon has again selflessly offered to review another set of findings to help tailor the argument needed to get them to work on the real issue.  

Now this being a support forum for the router itself and what it can do (local in-house congestion control and local host selection) I have an honest question for any of you:

 

How can the router possibly compensate for the quality of the delivery method of the "1's and 0's" getting to you when the developers have never even SEEN the results?

 

It's impossible, because of the variables, which is why the router doesn't have a guarantee stamped on the box that says you will be the "unstoppable nuclear dealing God" that apparently is the new baseline for "good".

 

Done here - my time will be better served with the canaries working on things that the router can do.

This is never going to end I'm out!

[Xacebop]

What I saw was people attacking secret face, i think we're all adults though and we can move on.

 

Whoever said bo3 was the best cod ever..... Whaaaat?

 

I think they found a good formula of fun for mp, and yes it makes no sense that the one other gun besides snipers that gets a hs modifier that matters is the brecci shotgun. I find some aspects of the game lazy and I think they are changing the game too much with all these hotfixes. Literally every day I have a new hotfix that nerfs one gun, buffs the next, breaks one thing, fixes another. These are all negated the very next day when the process is repeated. That buffed gun is now bad again, I'm looking at you razorback.

[daz]

Anyone else finding it laggy tonight?

[secretface]

Anyone else finding it laggy tonight?

its day here and playing great!

[daz]

its day here and playing great!

just discovered the razorback and been raping with it but now hit detection gone real bad

[daz]

the r1 showing ping at 30ms my laptop running ping test showing 25-30 ms but game showing 100-200 and im skipping all over the place

[secretface]

the r1 showing ping at 30ms my laptop running ping test showing 25-30 ms but game showing 100-200 and im skipping all over the place

everyone I'm playing is showing that 100+ ms ping Im at 20 in game.But everylobby Im in shows other with that high ping . But its working

[procreate]

its so bad, i refuse to play it... my son quit playing it as well. all his friends quit playing it too. so glad he didnt get the season pass...

[BENORMOUS]

For me it's probably the most enjoyable cod I've ever played,the gun/perks are well balanced and the maps are awesome apart from exodus that's terrible,there's some annoying head glitches on almost every map but I'm becoming a expert at taking people off them so its all good,I can't see what's not to like about black ops 3

[Zero_Actual]

I enjoy the game a lot myself. As many have said already the maps are great, guns are good, something for everyone pretty much. Just wish they would stop trying to nerf this and buff that. Priority should be matchmaking before anything else in my opinion.

[daz]

omg this game is so fucked up

there is something very weird going on , i noticed the game improved and i was constantly getting good games and teams were morre balanced better hit detection etc k/d rising and a bad game was one were i went 2kd so i thought id use the fresh start thing you get after prestige (which dont work properly btw) since doing that all games have been laggy with bad hit detection and my team mates are potatoes i can barely keep a 1kd my win loss in tdm is 0.19 , i have team mates go 2-20 every single game, i could take a sniper with an under barrel noob tube and ram right up their arse till it touches their brain pull both triggers and get a hit marker and thats if im lucky and dont miss lol, also getting 8v 3 games in normal tdm

[JConnor]

its so bad, i refuse to play it... my son quit playing it as well. all his friends quit playing it too. so glad he didnt get the season pass...

 

Maybe he is finally outgrowing CoD?

 

The reason I say this is because as much as I hate the stereotype, most of the kids playing CoD are in fact kids e.g. 10-teens, whereas the 20-and-up crowd have pretty much moved on to other FPS games, or just don't play twitch shooters as much as they used to?

 

As I stated before, BO3 is leagues above AW, but at its core it's still a very limited arena shooter... Namely because after one month the 12 maps become so boring and predictable that DLC is desperately needed to keep the game going beyond a first prestige, IMO.

[procreate]

Nah, its because its just a really bad CoD, he has been playing on my XBL account to go back and play BO/MW3/BO2/Ghosts instead.

Have to admit this game is so fucking uh, what's the politically correct word for gay now? Between the stupid nonsense callouts, the ripped off from destiny specialists, their dance moves... The end of game remarks... It's just far too cheesy for me personally. He dislikes the unCoD like nature of the game. It's not that he or I outgew CoD, CoD changed on me, can't speak for him... But I like the old ones. This new stuff is retarded. I'd rather play halo, titanfall, destiny, borderlands, whatever else BUT BO3 if that's the style game I want.

And there really isn't other FPS to move to, I prefer twitch shooters but not with so many gimmicks. Battlefront was a huge disappointment. Battlefield is far too boring and slow for me, Destiny is weak as hell for MP... Just not much happening on the good FPS front.

That said, I have a blast playing the old titles... And even with 6-15k online they play great most of the time. I just hope the playerbase holds out for as long as possible, and IW brings back real CoD instead of this crap they have put out past 2 years.

 

thats just how i feel about this, and the last release. its no longer CoD... its something else. something else that i dont like.

[Special_Ed]

I enjoy destiny for the raids and strikes, can't stand destined pvp. Thoroughly enjoy pvp in aw and bo3. Different people, different tastes.

[procreate]

I enjoy destiny for the raids and strikes, can't stand destined pvp. Thoroughly enjoy pvp in aw and bo3. Different people, different tastes.

 

the problem is all these companies have basically created the same game... now there is nothing differentiating them. CoD USED to be its own thing until it got caught up in wanting to be something its not. now its just another futuristic FPS. 

 

like i said, im glad there are still quite a few people still playing the old titles. wish they would drop some more DLC for it. i am obviously in the minority here, i thought Ghosts was fantastic, but that was due to a really great connection and some decent maps and follow up DLC. balanced guns and the best create a class system ever put out.

[Sgt-Greco]

"Retro feeling" makes old COD games seem unsurpassed.

BO3 is a fantastic game. After three decades or so , BO3 will also feel "retro" while playing Black Ops 23 on PS9.

[JConnor]

The reason Ghosts has a "better" connection is the TTK is so low there is no difference between HC and Core.

 

Also, the Create a Class is very convoluted and limited in a lot of ways e.g. three slots for "Stalker" a.k.a. Stock that allows you to move faster when ADS, etc.

[blankplanet]

I think it's my favourite since MW2 several years ago. It's bright, colourful and doesn't have such a serious nature to it. It might not be classic COD but it's a good game, I just wish they'd sort out hit detection, connection issues - the obvious things we've been mentioning for years. The Netduma has been amazing but there are some things it can't control, such as the awful matchmaking that puts one good player and five bad ones on the same team.  

[Dillinger]

The reason Ghosts has a "better" connection is the TTK is so low there is no difference between HC and Core.

 

Also, the Create a Class is very convoluted and limited in a lot of ways e.g. three slots for "Stalker" a.k.a. Stock that allows you to move faster when ADS, etc.

 

I can't agree enough with the sentiment in this statement.  You can't measure hit detection when you die from am afternoon breeze....LOL

[fuzzy clam]

I still liked Ghosts IMO it's seemed like the most "fair" game since MW2.And I mean fair by when I lost gun fights,I should have.Everyone died quick,nobody was a bullet sponge

[procreate]

The reason Ghosts has a "better" connection is the TTK is so low there is no difference between HC and Core.

 

Also, the Create a Class is very convoluted and limited in a lot of ways e.g. three slots for "Stalker" a.k.a. Stock that allows you to move faster when ADS, etc.

 

no, ghosts was the first in a while that didnt have the bullet bug where bullets didnt count. it was the real deal. when i count my shots they mattered, not like the rest.... sorry. but i know how many shots i put up and when people die.

 

and i have to say again with BO3, whats the word? i catn think of a politically correct word. LAME.

[Zennon]

Fast time to kill games are better for people with less than exemplary connections as they can kill before the next lag spike hits, so I can see why more people like that.

[wrathoftank]

no, ghosts was the first in a while that didnt have the bullet bug where bullets didnt count. it was the real deal. when i count my shots they mattered, not like the rest.... sorry. but i know how many shots i put up and when people die.

 

and i have to say again with BO3, whats the word? i catn think of a politically correct word. LAME.

Driftor actually did a video on this and explains why ghost and mw2 have such good hit detection.  The lowest amount of baseline lag in cod games goes...

 

1)MW2

2)Ghost

3)BO3

4)AW

5)BO2

 

So it's not just a placebo based on fast ttk, MW2 and Ghost just had great hit detection.