YT_LowPingKing

Game servers don't respond to traditional pings so we try to be clever in order to get a successful ping but it doesn't always work. It will then try to fall back to the trace method which won't give you the correct ping in most cases but hopefully somewhere near it, however this can also fail. Then because it's unable to determine the true ping it can't know what value it needs to apply with Steady Ping.
We're working on a new ping method that may help but I don't have an ETA for this.

I have not updated the router for awhile now, are we able to go below 50% on congestion control on this firmware?

Hey everyone I'm Scott, 
I run a small YouTube channel that covers everything NetDuma/DumaOS! If you need help with setup, settings, exc please consider giving my channel a look. If there's something I haven't covered yet that you would like covered you could always leave a comment here or my channel. There's a chance that at some point in the future I'll be able to get to your request. 
This community is absolutely amazing and I want to do all I can to help out. I really appreciate everybody who's checked out my channel over the years. For anyone who hasn't yet please consider giving it a look. If you have any questions feel free to ask I'll try to get back to you. 
Thanks 
Scott
PS: Check out my latest video where I cover how dscp tagging effects buffer bloat on your Xbox. 
 

Hey everyone I'm Scott, 
I run a small YouTube channel that covers everything NetDuma/DumaOS! If you need help with setup, settings, exc please consider giving my channel a look. If there's something I haven't covered yet that you would like covered you could always leave a comment here or my channel. There's a chance that at some point in the future I'll be able to get to your request. 
This community is absolutely amazing and I want to do all I can to help out. I really appreciate everybody who's checked out my channel over the years. For anyone who hasn't yet please consider giving it a look. If you have any questions feel free to ask I'll try to get back to you. 
Thanks 
Scott
PS: Check out my latest video where I cover how dscp tagging effects buffer bloat on your Xbox. 
 

@YT_LowPingKing
In general, I choose to set my gaming devices as the top priority, and I never deviate from that. The other devices simply don’t matter unless you are doing VOIP, so you’re forced to find the appropriate congestion control settings to ensure that everything is working properly. If you can discover the correct settings, then you don’t have to worry about anything else.
If a device is not assigned priority by SMARTBOOST, you can force it by adding ports 1-65535 to the priority list. However, keep in mind that doing so will disable all other priority settings, so it should be your last resort. That's because that will be the only device that will have priority.

How many of y'all prioritize devices? What's your experience when doing so? Do games feel better or worse? Working on a video and trying to get a consensus of how many people add devices to the device list and what their experience is.
Thx
Scott

Hello everyone,

This update brings a ton of exciting new features! You can now enjoy experimental support for many new languages, customise your theme with a choice of colours, and benefit from improved loading times. Additionally, You can now easily update your R2 firmware with one-click when DumaOS 4 is ready. The new Devices tile on the Dashboard provides a clearer overview of your network, and the improved bug reporting feature makes it simpler to share feedback. We've also included numerous bug fixes to enhance your overall experience.

Please see the full changelog below.
 
The app will be fully rolled out in about 10 hours from now.

The most recent update definitely helped the feel server wise when not playing at peak time. I've played with a bunch of settings and I don't think any of this is netduma related. The game just came out and with all shooters, there's normally issues with servers in terms of desync, lag, etc. Think if Xdefiants launch and how bad it was dying around walls and what not. It'll get fixed eventually. This happens every year with cod, although maybe not as bad as this year but it will get fixed eventually. My wonder is why they can never release the servers in great working condition if they've been working on the game for years? Why can they just increase the server update rate in order to mitigate these issues? Bad QA testing imo, whether you have a netduma or something else. Just gotta wait until they fix it, hopefully with the season 1 update. 

I'm not even sure this is a Netduma thing. I've been using ExitLag for about a week, and honestly, the game has felt great. The past two days, it feels exactly as you describe. Seems like squishy and delayed input lag. Sometimes, it's like input is buffered and then executes all at once causing weird behavior. My R3 lands tomorrow, so I look forward to testing out these scenarios as well.
 

Go to Ping Optimizer then set your congestion control to LLM ( low latency mode )
Since the release of Black Ops 6 I've been testing different congestion control settings. One match would feel okay. Bullets would register the way I'd expect. Then the very next it would all go to 💩 
So I would go into testing different congestion control sliders settings. Even with buffer bloat at an a+ & Ping Potter showing a smooth graph the game would feel very inconsistent. 
This was incredibly noticeable when trying to Sprint from a dead stop. Going into a private match and just trying to Sprint away felt like I was a millisecond or two behind my controller. For somebody who plays cod consistently this was really noticeable. 
I'd even noticed this same thing happening in MW3 & could never figure out exactly why. 
Up into this point I'd never actually tried using LLM within congestion control. 
Since turn it on the other day all games feel significantly better. Blops 6 feels snappy and responsive. Going into a private match and trying to Sprint away no longer feels sluggish. 
I'd love to know if this works for others in the community. Sure the NetDuma team would as well. 
Thx
Scott

LLM does turn on your congestion control only when gaming. I've double checked. Still testing during my free time but I'm finding some interesting results. When I adjust my download congestion control games start to feel weird. 
I know that games "Feeling" weird is subjective. However I'm very familiar with the games that I play. Been playing the Call of Duty franchise since WAW. Have owned every main line Netduma router since 2014. 
I've been trying to figure out why some days feel great. While others don't. Normally adjusting congestion control seems to make things better. At least for a bit. This is something that I've seen over the years as a NetDuma YouTuber. It's definitely been mentioned here on the forums a number of times.
It would make sense that different days and times depending on your ISP load and your load in your household that you may need to adjust congestion control. So that's what I've always done and told others to do on my YouTube channel. 
I won't bore you with every test I've done over the last year but let's say it's been a lot. Honestly a bit stressful as every time I feel like games are running good a little bit later they don't. There's still a bunch more tests to run but everything the last few days has pointed me toward adjusting download CC. Even though I have buffer bloat on my download side, games play better. 
Adjusting upload seems to work as intended and doesn't affect gameplay negatively. 
All said I have a bunch more testing I'd like to do. Is going to take time. However if there are others in the community that are struggling with games feeling weird including Call of Duty then try not adjusting your download congestion control and leave it at 100%. I'm currently still using llm. However I do plan to once again test Auto/Always.
Maybe it's just my connection doesn't like me adjusting download. However that does seem doubtful as others in the community have expressed games "Feeling" weird. 
Thanks everybody for the input so far. If any of y'all want to try not adjusting download and seeing if games feel better & report back that would be great. If this is something that everybody can replicate then NetDuma knows it's something they should look into. If it's just me and a few others then at the very least I can report in an upcoming YouTube video that this may be something that some people should try.
Anywho that was a long post. It's early I need coffee. 
Thx
Scott

Good question, as you've mentioned the distinction is a little blurred, I just double checked my understanding of it with someone and theirs was slightly different but roughly the same. We'll get a core dev to provide the specifics and hopefully we can clear it up and perhaps update the description of it if needed.

Fraser I was going to ask you this before.. But whats confusing about this is whats the difference using LLM or Auto Detect? Or Always for that matter.. Do any of these different modes handle packets any different? The clarity on this seems a but mucky..   Basically what would be the benefit of using LLM over Auto Detect?  There shouldnt be any should there?
Thanks!
Zippy.

LLM does turn on your congestion control only when gaming. I've double checked. Still testing during my free time but I'm finding some interesting results. When I adjust my download congestion control games start to feel weird. 
I know that games "Feeling" weird is subjective. However I'm very familiar with the games that I play. Been playing the Call of Duty franchise since WAW. Have owned every main line Netduma router since 2014. 
I've been trying to figure out why some days feel great. While others don't. Normally adjusting congestion control seems to make things better. At least for a bit. This is something that I've seen over the years as a NetDuma YouTuber. It's definitely been mentioned here on the forums a number of times.
It would make sense that different days and times depending on your ISP load and your load in your household that you may need to adjust congestion control. So that's what I've always done and told others to do on my YouTube channel. 
I won't bore you with every test I've done over the last year but let's say it's been a lot. Honestly a bit stressful as every time I feel like games are running good a little bit later they don't. There's still a bunch more tests to run but everything the last few days has pointed me toward adjusting download CC. Even though I have buffer bloat on my download side, games play better. 
Adjusting upload seems to work as intended and doesn't affect gameplay negatively. 
All said I have a bunch more testing I'd like to do. Is going to take time. However if there are others in the community that are struggling with games feeling weird including Call of Duty then try not adjusting your download congestion control and leave it at 100%. I'm currently still using llm. However I do plan to once again test Auto/Always.
Maybe it's just my connection doesn't like me adjusting download. However that does seem doubtful as others in the community have expressed games "Feeling" weird. 
Thanks everybody for the input so far. If any of y'all want to try not adjusting download and seeing if games feel better & report back that would be great. If this is something that everybody can replicate then NetDuma knows it's something they should look into. If it's just me and a few others then at the very least I can report in an upcoming YouTube video that this may be something that some people should try.
Anywho that was a long post. It's early I need coffee. 
Thx
Scott

Even though my waveform results have dropped to just an A, the game actually feels better. Since BO6 launched, I feel like my connection has been lagging behind other players.

Go to Ping Optimizer then set your congestion control to LLM ( low latency mode )
Since the release of Black Ops 6 I've been testing different congestion control settings. One match would feel okay. Bullets would register the way I'd expect. Then the very next it would all go to 💩 
So I would go into testing different congestion control sliders settings. Even with buffer bloat at an a+ & Ping Potter showing a smooth graph the game would feel very inconsistent. 
This was incredibly noticeable when trying to Sprint from a dead stop. Going into a private match and just trying to Sprint away felt like I was a millisecond or two behind my controller. For somebody who plays cod consistently this was really noticeable. 
I'd even noticed this same thing happening in MW3 & could never figure out exactly why. 
Up into this point I'd never actually tried using LLM within congestion control. 
Since turn it on the other day all games feel significantly better. Blops 6 feels snappy and responsive. Going into a private match and trying to Sprint away no longer feels sluggish. 
I'd love to know if this works for others in the community. Sure the NetDuma team would as well. 
Thx
Scott

Go to Ping Optimizer then set your congestion control to LLM ( low latency mode )
Since the release of Black Ops 6 I've been testing different congestion control settings. One match would feel okay. Bullets would register the way I'd expect. Then the very next it would all go to 💩 
So I would go into testing different congestion control sliders settings. Even with buffer bloat at an a+ & Ping Potter showing a smooth graph the game would feel very inconsistent. 
This was incredibly noticeable when trying to Sprint from a dead stop. Going into a private match and just trying to Sprint away felt like I was a millisecond or two behind my controller. For somebody who plays cod consistently this was really noticeable. 
I'd even noticed this same thing happening in MW3 & could never figure out exactly why. 
Up into this point I'd never actually tried using LLM within congestion control. 
Since turn it on the other day all games feel significantly better. Blops 6 feels snappy and responsive. Going into a private match and trying to Sprint away no longer feels sluggish. 
I'd love to know if this works for others in the community. Sure the NetDuma team would as well. 
Thx
Scott

Go to Ping Optimizer then set your congestion control to LLM ( low latency mode )
Since the release of Black Ops 6 I've been testing different congestion control settings. One match would feel okay. Bullets would register the way I'd expect. Then the very next it would all go to 💩 
So I would go into testing different congestion control sliders settings. Even with buffer bloat at an a+ & Ping Potter showing a smooth graph the game would feel very inconsistent. 
This was incredibly noticeable when trying to Sprint from a dead stop. Going into a private match and just trying to Sprint away felt like I was a millisecond or two behind my controller. For somebody who plays cod consistently this was really noticeable. 
I'd even noticed this same thing happening in MW3 & could never figure out exactly why. 
Up into this point I'd never actually tried using LLM within congestion control. 
Since turn it on the other day all games feel significantly better. Blops 6 feels snappy and responsive. Going into a private match and trying to Sprint away no longer feels sluggish. 
I'd love to know if this works for others in the community. Sure the NetDuma team would as well. 
Thx
Scott

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Enjoy smooth BlackOps6 gameplay with the R3!

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The giveaway ends on the 18th of October, and the winners will be announced soon after.

Good luck everyone! ☺️🤩
 

Hey everyone I'm Scott, 
I run a small YouTube channel that covers everything NetDuma/DumaOS! If you need help with setup, settings, exc please consider giving my channel a look. If there's something I haven't covered yet that you would like covered you could always leave a comment here or my channel. There's a chance that at some point in the future I'll be able to get to your request. 
This community is absolutely amazing and I want to do all I can to help out. I really appreciate everybody who's checked out my channel over the years. For anyone who hasn't yet please consider giving it a look. If you have any questions feel free to ask I'll try to get back to you. 
Thanks 
Scott
PS: Check out my latest video where I cover how dscp tagging effects buffer bloat on your Xbox. 
 

Hey everyone I'm Scott, 
I run a small YouTube channel that covers everything NetDuma/DumaOS! If you need help with setup, settings, exc please consider giving my channel a look. If there's something I haven't covered yet that you would like covered you could always leave a comment here or my channel. There's a chance that at some point in the future I'll be able to get to your request. 
This community is absolutely amazing and I want to do all I can to help out. I really appreciate everybody who's checked out my channel over the years. For anyone who hasn't yet please consider giving it a look. If you have any questions feel free to ask I'll try to get back to you. 
Thanks 
Scott
PS: Check out my latest video where I cover how dscp tagging effects buffer bloat on your Xbox. 
 

Hey everyone I'm Scott, 
I run a small YouTube channel that covers everything NetDuma/DumaOS! If you need help with setup, settings, exc please consider giving my channel a look. If there's something I haven't covered yet that you would like covered you could always leave a comment here or my channel. There's a chance that at some point in the future I'll be able to get to your request. 
This community is absolutely amazing and I want to do all I can to help out. I really appreciate everybody who's checked out my channel over the years. For anyone who hasn't yet please consider giving it a look. If you have any questions feel free to ask I'll try to get back to you. 
Thanks 
Scott
PS: Check out my latest video where I cover how dscp tagging effects buffer bloat on your Xbox. 
 

I had'nt thought to try out PO with this new version until earlier this evening and it worked great got ping for Up and DL down to under 10. The Geofilter has also been working excellent this evening and had some of the best gaming I have ever had this evening.
If the wifi signal can be made stronger and get the speeds up then the R3 is seriously living up to my expectations. 

Here's a setup video for those who have a UDM Pro and DumaOS router such as the NetDuma R3.
 

Although a bit tedious you can always do buffer bloat test manually on a website like waveform. The notes say Ping Optimizer should work better in the next version.