kinel Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Bo3 has been out for few weeks now But somthing i noticed all the time and has never changed Every game i always look at my in game ping at the start of a game and inbetween deaths. My ping at the start of a game says 17 ms then two seconds later it goes up to 33 ms then up again to 50s ms It is constantly fluctuating every few seconds but i expect a bit of fluctuation but these changes in speeds are to ridicolous This is on every dedi i try and every game i play So i just wandered are you all having this same issue with the in game ping going all over the place but with big spikes in speeds every few seconds Im just hoping its not my line having problems Wandering why its constantly fluctuating every few seconds this is the ingame ping not the netduma ping Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Are you checking the in game ping numbers while viewing the kill cam from another player's perspective? Or are you expecting the "in game ping" to remain constant, regardless of action going on in your area? i'm not sure I understand the inquiry, but if the question was "am I seeing this as well?" - My answer would be yes and it is performing as I would expect. Does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 I was expecting a bit of fluctuating in my ping but not this amount. im just wandering if its the game causing the big increase in ping or is it my internet line caus ing it My base ping is around 11ms the net dumas ping to uk dedi shows a 15 ms ping to that server But my ingame ping shows 17ms for a few seconds then goes up to 33 ms then few sec later goes up again to 80ms or 90sms My ping never stays around the same its constantly changes but with massive increases No matter what dedi i play on i get the same issues in these big spikes to my ping showing in game I look at the ingame ping meter during a game if im in a not so buisy area of the map as i camp a lot or as the game starts ile check also if i die before i respawn i check as well I hope was a bit clearer or made sence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Reading what you are experiencing, and referencing some things I have read here like the quote in my signature from Iain, I would say what you are seeing is normal and perhaps you are obsessing about something a little smaller than some of the already known problems around the game itself (the dedi's suck). If you were seeing MASSIVE spikes, that would be one thing. A spike from 15ms to 33ms, or even up to 50ms, would be pretty small for the "average" person or player to really notice and be able to pinpoint. Now an argument can be made that local spikes (inside your house), and local area spikes (those of your neighbors sharing your line like a cable TV system) on your line feeding back into the local plant COULD be causing problems, but at this point it would all be wild speculation without a few 24hr ping plots like a couple of the guys have done. As you live in the UK, there is a ping plotter that Zennon likes to use for testing these issues. I will see if I can find it, but someone will be along with a link as soon as I type this (because these guys are good like that). That might further assist in determining whether you have a real problem or if you are looking a little too hard at something now that you have more information available (Duma and in game pings). As to your initial question: Is this normal? Yes. Could it be improved? Yes. Do I expect it to be improved any time soon? No. No I really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 https://www.pingplotter.com/ Use the pro version free for one month. Type 8.8.8.8 in to target then press the go button and it will ping, trace and log your ping in a graph for as long as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thanks Z! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BENORMOUS Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 It's just the game,I used to ping 15ms to servers on advances warfare but on bops3 I'm constantly pinging 20/22ms this is via my duma but in game ping on bops3 is exactly same as youres is,17 to 33/34 if I see ping going higher than that spiking to 54 then 80 something I know it's gonna be a bad game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted December 4, 2015 Administrators Share Posted December 4, 2015 We're not exactly sure how they calculate the ping graph in game, could be processing delay etc but In my experience it has never been consistent. It is always going up and down like a Yo-Yo, now I haven't seen any correlation to how the game feels when it does this. I just completely ignore it. We even did a test where we knew we had packet loss but the game reported an absolute flat 0 the whole time so it leads me to believe their graphs aren't exactly accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 I have finaly figured out what the problem is i just dont know how to fix it Its my Hauwei hg 635 super router giving me the problems If i do a interner diagnosis on netduma with hg635 .My ping diagnosis reports this Excellent good good no packet loss then sraight afterward i do another test it goes Excellent Excellent Excellent no packet loss then sraight afterward i do another test Excellent good good no packet loss then sraight afterward i do another test Excellent Excellent Excellent no packet loss But if i plug in my bt open reach modem in instead heres my same test results sraight afterwar Excellent Excellent Excellent no packet loss then i do another test sraight afterward Excellent Excellent Excellent no packet loss then i do another test sraight afterward it goes Excellent Excellent Excellent no packet loss So the bt open eeac modem is more stable But i cannot use the bt open reach eci modem for reasons i posted in another thread About g inp zennon knows about that problem and advised me on it I have to use the hg 635 router for g inp reasons But is there any way to maybe make it more stable Maybe i need to disable a few settings in the router as it seems its causing conflict At the moment the router is in bridged mode or modem ode what ever its called i aint sure I follwed a post fraser linked to a user to put it into bridged mode I hope that made sence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 So the new Hauwei modem is causing issue's I see, might be faulty, I had the boot on the other foot with a ECI that did this on my line. The good thing about G.inp is it is much more lenient if you have a few issues on the line and will fix errors on the fly, where as the normal DLM is trigger happy and will place you on and interleaved setting. With the ECI back in-line are you seeing raised pings from your normal baseline? if not leave it be for now, I would not keep switching modems as DLM will see that as line drop outs. It is always safer to wait 20 minuets between turning off and powering back on as DLM sees this as a normal power down and not a drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 i havent bought the new hauwei modem yet i might buy it after crimbo the issue was with my exsisting hg 635 router i pretty sure my line is now mucked up already as i been unplugging and replugging in difrent modem since friday night trying to fix the problem my base ping friday was 11ms today my base ping is 25 no matter what modem or router i use now i am so so gutted so i pretty sure dlm has kicked in and put interleaved on my line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 btw at the moment i am using the hauwei hg 635 super router Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Oh I see, my mistake the modem is fine it is the modem/combo 635 with the issue. Just use the modem if at all possible and then line will sort its self out after a week or so might be sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 before friday i was using hauwei hg 635 super router for over a year on and off with a constant 11 ms ping i plugged in the bt open reach eci modem on friday was getting pings of around 25 ms and terrible speeds but good reading on pind diagnosis good excelent excellent no packet loss consistantly so i kept it on for over 2 days but the pings was to high for my liking so i re plugged in my hauwei hg super 635 and ping was still 25ms and terrible speeds. i was hoping my ping would decrease as i did in the past i really wanted to use the super router as it always had better pings but now my readings are good good good no packet loss then straight after i do another test staight away i get readings of good excellent excellent no packet loss so i was hoping that the hg 635 router would eventually re settle and lower my ping but i wanted to fix tjhis issue of it going from good excellent excellent no packet loss then straight after good good good no packet loss then straight after again back to good excellent excellent no packet loss then another test good good good no packet loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Plugging in the ECI modem on a Hauwei cab has made the DLM active again for now, it can take 9 days of no issues on a line for DLM to turn back to fast path sometime a little less. Leave the 635 in and use pingplotter pro https://www.pingplotter.com/downloads/pingplotter_install.exe Post up a screen shot of about 5 to 10 mins worth of pings. The duma is a small sample but the plotter can go as long as you wish, we can see if the pings are rising and falling like the duma diags suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 cheers zennon i dont mind waiting 9 days if so as long as my pings go back to 11 ms i will be happy as always your so helpful cheers again for your time and patience with me thanks again i will post the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Not at all, I was mixed up as I know your after a Hauwei modem and I did not pick up on the fact in your first new post here that you did not have it yet. Early morning after parting with friends at the weekend do not help haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 it wont let me post the image it says wrong format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 this is the only way for me to post results dont know if its ok https://gyazo.com/0b9cf957d5b37fe9757953a79b811350 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Looks normal apart from there is a few high spikes near the start ,were you surfing at all opening netduma site etc? On the whole its ok, just going to have to wait for DLM to see its all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 i wasnt surfing at all i just had that running nothing else was runing cheers again for your briiliant help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 OK I would suggest leaving it running for 30 mins and go watch some TV maybe, and post back the results to make sure the spikes were a one off or not. It would be wise to do this test at peak time UK tonight also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 i was doing a 30 min test as you posted the idea lol heres the results tbh i aint got a clue if i im posting the right info you needed https://gyazo.com/6a03c8e7ca181bd9afd81e7826baff2e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 There are two 10ms jitter peaks in the 30 mins. I would say it was just luck that the modem alone was tested with the Duma and u didn't hit a peak. They would be there with both I would have thought. It's not something to worry about unless at peak time it gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinel Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 chers again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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