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Ok so I just received my R1 today and hooked it up as follows. Thanks for the fast shipping BTW!

 

Wall>Modem/router (disabled) combo>R1>Netgear Nighthawk router

 

Reason for this is because I need the wireless range the Nighthawk provides around my home.

 

PS3 and PS4 both hard wired into R1 along with the Nighthawk.

 

I put the Nighthawk in AP mode because that is what I was told to do. 

 

I followed the instructions to get an Open NAT. I've checked UpNp, UpNp forwarding and hard reset my PS3 both times with no luck. The next step was to go to Device Manager and click "view other router interface." I clicked it and it took me to my modem/router combo I have from my ISP. Thing is the router part was disabled by the tech so I can use my Nighthawk instead. So I go to my Nighthawk to check for the DMZ. Well I can't access it in WAN, I suppose because it's in AP mode.

 

I've also unabled the GEO filter while I boot up the PS3.

 

 

Any other suggestions?

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So out of curiosity, I took the Nighthawk out of AP mode and found the DMZ via WAN. It was checked with a number there. Check file attached.

 

I tried to put that number below the blue box there, but it wouldn't take it. I assume because it was checked. So I unchecked it and typed the number below the blue box in device manager as instructed and hit apply. I assume it went through, because it restarted the router. But if you look at the file attached, that's how it was after I did all that. Difference was it was unchecked, but the number I put there is not there, it's the same number as it was before when it was checked.

 

Do I need to put my Nighthawk in AP mode if I disable the wireless in the R1?

 

I know, a lot of question..........

 

 

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Yes because it is going to be your only Wi-Fi available. And you want to turn the Wi-Fi off on the R1 so that you do not get any interference between the two Wi-Fi networks.

 

But if I disable the wireless on the R1, why the need to put the Nighthawk in AP mode? There shouldn't be any interference right?

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Recommended setup> modem>R1>Nighthawk(AP)

The R1 will be the primary router and the routing capabilities for the Nighthawk will be disabled and only the wifi will enabled for larger coverage and wireless ac functions.

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Now you don't have to do this. You could just totally remove the nighthawk router from the set up and just use the R1 for all your routing capabilities and leave the wifi on. But there is no 5 GHz/or wireless AC function in the R1 only 2.4 GHz.

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But if I disable the wireless on the R1, why the need to put the Nighthawk in AP mode? There shouldn't be any interference right?

 

In Access Point (AP) mode, the Nighthawk connects to another router through an Ethernet cable to extend the wireless signal coverage to other network clients. In this mode, the firewall, IP sharing, and NAT, and other functions are disabled. It doesn't make sense to have the R1 acting as a router and the Nighthawk acting as a router. Putting the nighthawk in AP mode disables the routing capabilities and turns it into essentially a wireless hotspot.

 

What ISP do you have? Odds are the "tech" just turned off the wifi on your modem/router combo which is NOT putting it into bridge mode. (I don't know why but for some reason Comcast techs have no idea what bridge mode is, turning off the wifi network is their solution to disabling the internal router in these all in one modem/router combos.) This would make it so that you have a router plugged into a router plugged into another router causing your NAT issues. You can either go into the modem settings and set it to bridge mode (if it lets you) or call your ISP and have them set it to bridge mode.

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i have my duma in my nighthawk dmz. i use both wifi signals as well i dont have any problems ive found a optimal setup for both and everything has worked fine me for when gaming and whenever im surfing on the net. I think for me and my internet connection the netduma is best at a secondary router not the primary but thats my setup and it works alot of the duma army have their own optimal setup that works for them hope you have fun gaming with the netduma 

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I as well received my netduma today and am wondering how to interconnect the Duma and nighthawk? Any help is appreciated! 

 

Hi Spencer, welcome to the forum :)

 

The best setup is to so Modem/Router >> Netduma >> Nighthawk (in AP Mode). If you need help setting it up then can you make a new thread :)

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As people said above,go with that set up if you're gonna use both routers.

 

That's the set up I use,aside from the fact that I have a Netgear in AP mode and you get the best of both worlds...all the dumas features and wireless 5 GHz from the netgear.

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I would have Nighthawk/Netduma and put the Duma in the DMZ of the Nighthawk then turn WIFI off on the Nighthawk and connect evrything to the Duma. The Netduma has good WIFI and i bet it will be just as good as the Nighthawk in range.

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So I have a Motorola Arris NVG510 modem/router through AT&T. I looked up how to put it in bridge mode and all I can say is WOW! Can anyone walk me through it if that seems to be my problem.

 

Give this video ago, hopefully it is easy enough to follow along 

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Give this video ago, hopefully it is easy enough to follow along 

 

Ok I watched this video as well during a search on youtube, but all the numbers are confusing me. Do I just follow this exactly or do I have to plug the number below the blue box in somewhere? Also, am I doing this before I put the Nighthawk in AP mode or can this be done while in AP mode? As of right now, the Nighthawk is in AP mode.

 

I don't want to start getting too deep into things where everything goes crazy. I want to make sure I do this right.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions and help guys, really! I'm new to this DMZ, gateway,router stuff so please bear with me.

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It starts to get confusing right at 3:07 of that video. What numbers are supposed to be there? The wireless part of the NVG510 was already set to off.

 

Edit: Ok I think I'm supposed to input the WAN ip address that is below the blue box in the device manager of the R1 in this step. Is that correct?

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It starts to get confusing right at 3:07 of that video. What numbers are supposed to be there? The wireless part of the NVG510 was already set to off.

 

Edit: Ok I think I'm supposed to input the WAN ip address that is below the blue box in the device manager of the R1 in this step. Is that correct?

 

Yes that's right :) 

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Yes that's right :)

 

 

Ok, I did that. Went on to the next step, followed that.

 

At/around 5:10, I didn't do anything concerning that.

 

I unabled the GEO filter and restarted my PS3.

 

BOOM!! Open NAT!

 

So just to be clear my set up is:

 

Wall>Modem/router (bridge mode)>R1 (wireless unabled)>Nighthawk (in AP mode)

 

 

Thanks again for the help. Learning a lot about this stuff.

 

Would it be possible to leave this topic open for any other questions I have or should I just make a new topic?

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