major masingil Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Guys, Doing a little network experimentation and wanted to see if I could get some education regarding QoS. Using VZW Fios as ISP. I am using my own router instead of the Modem/Router that comes with the service. Here's the setup - Netgear Router in Router Mode because I use the 5 ghz for printing (Printer connected to Netgear USB Port) then next in the line is the Netduma R1 after the R1 I have a couple of switches throughout the house. Question 1 - Should I enable the QoS in the Netgear router to help reduce spikes and jitter across network as a whole? Question 2 - If enabling the QoS in Netgear is a good idea; do I set the upload bandwith on the R1 to match the reduced upload value caused by throttling the upload speed in the Netgear QoS settings? Without any throttling I have 50 mbps Up and 50 mbps Down from the isp. If I enable QoS in the Netgear, I set the upload bandwith to 35 mbps Question 3 - Given the Netgear QoS value of 35 mbps, should I set the upload speed in the R1 at 35 mbps instead of 50 mbps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 20, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hey so I would recommend you do modem/router > R1 > Netgear as then you will be able to use our congestion control or 'QoS' which is much better than any other form of QoS. In which case you'd just set the bandwidth on the R1 and leave the Netgear as is or put it in AP mode for the wifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major masingil Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hey Fraser what's up? The Netgear router is essentially the modem. I asked Verizon to allow me to use my own router instead of using their modem/router combo. They do that changing the settings at the ONT to operate via cat6 instead of coax. So the Netgear has to be the first in the line. I need it to be a router for the printer which is plugged into one of the Netgear USB ports. I don't use any other routers besides it and the R1 Are you saying I can still use the 5ghz from the Netgear if I place the Netgear into AP mode? I didn't want to go through the process of placing it into AP mode because I thought I'd lose my USB printer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 20, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 20, 2015 Ahh I see, in that case netgear > R1 with all devices connected to the R1 and then using our congestion control should work fine. So if the printer is just connected via USB our congestion control should work just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major masingil Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Ahh I see, in that case netgear > R1 with all devices connected to the R1 and then using our congestion control should work fine. So if the printer is just connected via USB our congestion control should work just fine Cool thanks for the response. Ok so back to my original questions _ should I use the QoS on the Netgear to smooth out the jitter and spikes on the network as a whole, and if so should I set my bandwidth on the R1 to the same value as the QoS upload throttling for the Netgear? Or is using 2 QoS (QoS from Netgear and QoS from R1) just plain stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PharmDawgg Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yes do not do both. Just do one or the other. I would say just set your download and upload in the R1's congestion control only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major masingil Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yes do not do both. Just do one or the other. I would say just set your download and upload in the R1's congestion control only. Roger that! Thanks Buck. Biddy biddy biddy biddy. Anyone get that reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 21, 2015 Roger that! Thanks Buck. Biddy biddy biddy biddy. Anyone get that reference? Haha no I didn't As your questions have been answered are we okay to close this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major masingil Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Haha no I didn't As your questions have been answered are we okay to close this thread? The comment to Buck comes from an old TV show Called "Buck Rogers and the 21st Century.. He had a robot named Twiggy that always ended everything he said with Biddy biddy biddy biddy. The games seemed smoother after I turned off the Netgear QoS. It may be placebo effect, but who cares as long as it works? Thanks again Fraser and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex49H Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 When the game is smooth it is fun Biddy biddy biddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 21, 2015 Haha I think that must've been before my time unfortunately! Fantastic to hear its working, I'll close this thread for now, do feel free to make another thread if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PharmDawgg Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hell yeah I remember Buck Rogers and Battle Star Gallatica. Sorry I went off on a tangent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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