David824 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I have found something happen on both my XR700 and my R2....when trying to just port forward I'm noticing when I try to port forward port 3074 it tells me it cant because its already being used. I have UPNP turn off....I turn it off and then save it and then reboot the router so it clear it out. Go back to port forwarding and try it again and its still saying it cant because its already in use. What would be making my router use port 3074 which is COD...when I dont have the game on...I actually have the ps5 turn off..not in rest mode either...like turned off. Now on my R2..it lets me put 3074 in the ports but when I sign into the any COD game is says I am moderate, I'm assuming cause its being used twice somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 10, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 10, 2021 Are you using the DMZ on the router for the device? That's the most likely reason that's occurring. Have you made other rules with 3074 included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 10, 2021 Author Share Posted April 10, 2021 no Im not in DMZ...I just have UPNP ...my nat open...and I have my ps5 ip reserved..thats..Ive made no rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 10, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 10, 2021 Is port 3074 listed in UPnP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 10, 2021 Author Share Posted April 10, 2021 yes when I turn UPNP on....but I'll turn it off and save it...then reboot the router to make sure its cleared out...then when it boots back up...I go try to use just ports (only reason I like using ports over upnp is i feel like I get better hit registration....but even after all those steps...its still saying its being used....also my PS5 is powered completely off the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 10, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 10, 2021 You have IPv6 so you don't need to port forward anyway as you'll have an Open NAT. It might be due to that which is why it isn't letting you. Have you made any rules in: Traffic Prioritization Port Triggering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 I do have ipv6 because I have ATT fiber ..and ATT told me they do use ipv4 and 6 both in their fiber bit I'm not having trouble getting an open nat...I just want to put it in port forwarding to see if I get better hit registration like I use too..that's all ..I havent ever messed with port triggering so I know that's not it. I do have the ps5 in console in traffic prioritization...but I believe I even turned them off...you think I is still grabbing it with it turned off?..should I delete it out just to test if that's what's grabbing it? Guess I will delete any traffic prioritization disable ipv6 on the router to see if it works then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 11, 2021 It's unlikely but yes give it a try please. If it doesn't work can you take a screenshot of the port forwarding page when you get the message please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 sure!...but its just a pop up saying its already being use and cant be used twice...It took me a little to figure out that it was 3074..I got the popup when i did the normal 1-65535 then I just PSN ports...still got it....finally I noticed if I didnt add 3074 to the ports they all took...so thats how I figured its that port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 ok so on my R2 ....I enabled oof them them and put in ports...and it took...but in cold war....I'm runng a moderate nat...if I go back to UPNP it grabs 3074 in the list and I'm open....so somewhere 3074 is being used which is why I'm getting mod nat with just ports...this is really strange. When I had the R1 I could go back and forth all the time and not have any problems...the R1 is what made me realize I got much better hit detection...it just doesnt seem to want to work for me on the xr700 and R2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 11, 2021 It's more than likely the port forward rule is conflicting with UPnP which is why you get a moderate NAT, if you disable UPnP it may become open again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 actually I made a mistake....if I run JUST ports...I get a MOD in cold war....if i run just UPNP...I get an open...if I run them I get an open....so somewhere my port forwarding isnt working right or theres something reading cod ports and my port forwarding is seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 11, 2021 Okay please post a screenshot of the ports you have added so far and I will take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Netduma Fraser said: Okay please post a screenshot of the ports you have added so far and I will take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 11, 2021 That's the only port rule you've made? That rule doesn't include any ports that the game/console will use. Can you take a screenshot of how you're trying to add the rule please like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 i actually just done 3074 by itself......as for that rule...did I put them in wrong?....I pulled it off of one of the threads on here......should it be 1-65335 then again 1-65335? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 heres how I would put them in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 11, 2021 Ah great! I wouldn't advise you do that rule but yes you would do 1-65535 / 1-65535 at that point you've basically put the device in the DMZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 ok...I just looked up the normal PSN ps5 ports..and put them in for now....again.,...I'm not sure why if i pull upnp off...it reads mod...is there just no why to figure out where the 3074 port is being grabbed behind the scenes somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted April 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 11, 2021 If the console is on at the time or not enough time has passed after disabling UPnP then it still could be active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 I'm going to send you a picture of the ports they said on sony to use for PS5....then tomorrow...I'll will turn off UPNP and reboot the router and then turn on my ps5...and see what that does...and I'll let you know. As always Fraser...I really do thank you for all the help and help trying to figure out whats going on whenever I have questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David824 Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Sad to report....I'm still reading moderate when taking UPNP off...with doing everything we talked about....at this point I just want to know why I cant use port forwarding...I know I can "just use UPNP" but I have to be honest...I dont like having something that doesnt work, ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Liam Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I can certainly understand what you mean, games like CoD can use a large amount of ephemeral ports so it's hard to know which ones to port-forward and have it work reliably and consistently. This is why UPnP is so useful, it takes the guess work out and does it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David824 Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 Yeah I get that but then why have port forwarding on your router if it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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