rjaaayyy Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 i still got it, not as bad but i have. Even when i am in the party, it will be connecting and coming back and cutting people out for a minute or 2. Its like its fighting it when i am in party sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 also been occasionally losing internet from that router for a few mins as if its resetting then comes back. Only been happening since the ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 20, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 20, 2021 Could you upgrade to the latest beta please: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4mwe5sx81gsc129/XR500-V2.3.2.114-DumaOS3.0.203.img?dl=0 then do a factory reset and see whether it works then please. If not make a Traffic Controller rule to allow all traffic to the console and see if that affects it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 i updated router, when i factory reset, do i put the ports back in an keep upnp off? or leave it on and not port forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 21, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 21, 2021 Leave UPnP on first without ports and see how you get on, you can always add ports later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 ok now xbox wont pick up on device manager again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 21, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 21, 2021 Could you disable IPv6 then reboot the console and see whether it appears then please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 it did not, so i factory reset another time. Now it does. weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 now ipv6 wont show up on xbox, and gave moderate nat. Always getting one sort of problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 21, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 21, 2021 With IPv6 disabled it wouldn't be getting an IPv6 address, I don't believe having it enabled would give you much of a benefit. What are your settings for NAT currently? I usually suggest NAT open in WAN settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 alright now i got bunch of odd stuff, ipv6 does appear and goes away at times, and Nat type goes between open and unavailable. When i had ipv6 filtering on secured it would show and be open then eventually go to unavailable. Then when i put it to open, it wont show up on the xbox at times??? Not sure how important the ipv6 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 woops we said something same time haha. Ok i put wan setup nat filtering to open from secured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 okay after all the other problems im mostly back, open nat ipv4 and 6. allow and deny back after the factory reset, and the applied update. Anything else i should do or should i play and get back if problem occurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 21, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 21, 2021 Okay great, if it seems alright now then I wouldn't change anything else and just get back to us if it happens again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 now the nat type is unavailable again, was open earlier then shut off for a bit and now im back and its unavailble again? what is going on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 port also changes on its own and this time took away ipv6 and with nat unavailable still, nothing is consistent now.. earlier i had everything normal. Had it off for an hour, now its always unavailable again, and on and off with ipv6 and ports changing on its own to sum everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted February 22, 2021 Administrators Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just disable IPv6 fully on the router and that will make it easier for us to figure this out. On the consoles themselves set them to use a different port each so that is stable then reboot them and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 alright got ipv4 only wired with unavailable nat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 cant seem to get it off unavailable now, turned everything off and restarted 1 at a time, i also trying to connect from modem to xbox and not router, but its still unavaiable which is strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjaaayyy Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 when i try wireless, it is open though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alinkfromthepast Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I'm the only one who understood Xbox has transitioned from peer-to-peer to server based party chat to prevent DDOS attacks? source: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-11-03-microsoft-phasing-out-xbox-party-chat-p2p-voice-connections-to-beef-up-security I've resolved the chat issue as follows: - Disable the geo filter temporarily and put your router in spectating mode. - Start a party without inviting anyone. - Briefly see A LOT of servers around the world, then you will be connected to one. - The server you're connected to will appear on the map FOR A BRIEF PERIOD. - QUICKLY add the server to your Allow list, before it disappears from the map. - Put geo filtering back on and invite friends to your chat. - The chat should now work. I found that even using a ping assist value of 25-35 ms can be enough to let you connect with a server, since they're usually within a low ping from you. This could help avoid having to do this process when you are invited to someone else party, provided they're near you and likely connected to a chat server that's within your ping assist value. If you want, during the time a connection is being chosen and you see all the servers on the map when you are in spectating mode, quickly allow all the server nearest to you. Repeat the process as many times as needed to allow all the servers you can, because as I said, they appear on the map for A BRIEF period. For example I'm in Italy and I see one server in the Netherlands, one in England and one in Ireland. You may also need to add them more than once, though, as I have a hunch they're actually MULTIPLE servers appearing in the same locations. Oh, also FIY my other settings are: I've got UPNP DISABLED and I've assigned a static IP address to my Xbox on my internal LAN. ALL the recommended ports from the Xbox website are correctly forwarded to my Xbox IP address. This worked for me, hope this helps anybody who is having issues. archangel561 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Liam Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 @rjaaayyy Could you try removing the XBOX from device manager and reconnecting it, see if it goes straight back to an unavailable NAT type over wired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alinkfromthepast Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 @Netduma Liam With all due respect, have you bothered to read my reply? I’m a bit astounded at your apparent lack of understanding about how the Xbox chat is working now, which is server based. You proposed solutions based on the assumption the chat still works on a p2p basis, which isn’t the case anymore, then switched the conversation to generic trial and error connection settings that won’t do any good to solve OP issue, what’s more you’re suggesting settings that are actually messing with his connection which was fine in the first place; his port forwarding and general connection settings were fine, the issue is just the chat server being out of his selected geo filter range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Liam Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, alinkfromthepast said: @Netduma Liam With all due respect, have you bothered to read my reply? I’m a bit astounded at your apparent lack of understanding about how the Xbox chat is working now, which is server based. You proposed solutions based on the assumption the chat still works on a p2p basis, which isn’t the case anymore, then switched the conversation to generic trial and error connection settings that won’t do any good to solve OP issue, what’s more you’re suggesting settings that are actually messing with his connection which was fine in the first place; his port forwarding and general connection settings were fine, the issue is just the chat server being out of his selected geo filter range. My apologies, I missed your response, thank you for the detailed suggestion! I was purely suggesting he disconnects and re-connects his XBOX from his router, that wouldn't affect other settings at all, though I do understand your concern. The reason we go through these suggestions is to ensure we've covered all bases in the troubleshooting process. That being said, the information and experience you've provided is incredibly useful, and I implore @rjaaayyy to give it a read as well as the linked article to see if this also resolves his problem. Thank you for contributing, apologies again for not acknowledging you response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alinkfromthepast Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 @Netduma Liam Thank you for your kind words. I learned a lot of good advice out of lurking this forum, now I'm trying to give back as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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