Spediegunz Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 i have many wireless and wired devices in my home so many that my setup isn't so traditional I require 3 different routers around the house to plug in various wired devices. from any computer or mobile in the house no matter which wifi or direct I can access any of the other 2 routers config page by typing their respected ip address. However with the netduma i have to be connected to it directly via ethernet or it wireless in order to bring up its config page. conversely if I'm connected to the netdumas network wireless or wired I can still access the other routers why is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zennon Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 It is optimal to run all devices from the duma or you will not be getting the advantage of congestion control that stops game lag I would Modem>duma>Wifi to all devices >use other routers as access points(do not use wifi from them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted April 27, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted April 27, 2015 from any computer or mobile in the house no matter which wifi or direct I can access any of the other 2 routers config page by typing their respected ip address. However with the netduma i have to be connected to it directly via ethernet or it wireless in order to bring up its config page. conversely if I'm connected to the netdumas network wireless or wired I can still access the other routers why is this? Make sure your on the latest version firstly, then in Miscellaneous settings enable "Access from WAN". This will mean that you can access the Netduma through its WAN address which can be found in the Device Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 It is optimal to run all devices from the duma or you will not be getting the advantage of congestion control that stops game lag I would Modem>duma>Wifi to all devices >use other routers as access points(do not use wifi from them) Thanks, however I don't use congestion control on the Duma because there is plenty of bandwidth to go around and I also use the qos settings on the Asus to distribute bandwidth between all network devices, also the Asus router supports some advanced features not available on the netduma. while I am unable to set the netduma as an access point because it's not one of its features the other routers are however in bridge mode. Multiple wifis are necessary because one router cant cover all the floors of my home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Make sure your on the latest version firstly, then in Miscellanies settings enable "Access from WAN". This will mean that you can access the Netduma through its WAN address which can be found in the Device Manager. Hmm I will try this asap and report back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Hmm I will try this asap and report back Yup, this is what's needed and then you'll be able to access it without even being home lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 i have many wireless and wired devices in my home so many that my setup isn't so traditional I require 3 different routers around the house to plug in various wired devices. from any computer or mobile in the house no matter which wifi or direct I can access any of the other 2 routers config page by typing their respected ip address. However with the netduma i have to be connected to it directly via ethernet or it wireless in order to bring up its config page. conversely if I'm connected to the netdumas network wireless or wired I can still access the other routers why is this? I would do modem > r1(with your consoles) > switch - and have all your devices run off the switch with the r1 as the primary router. Would make things alot easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akic Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Yup, this is what's needed and then you'll be able to access it without even being home lol Not with the setup he's drawn the asus will block external access. Not a good idea to leave WAN side access open if you're connected directly to your modem or a routers DMZ. The only time you should allow it is in something like speediegunz setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Not with the setup he's drawn the asus will block external access. Not a good idea to leave WAN side access open if you're connected directly to your modem or a routers DMZ. The only time you should allow it is in something like speediegunz setup. I have the same setup and I can access mine from outside my network. It's definitely not safe, but the worst that can happen is my router gets reset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted April 27, 2015 Administrators Share Posted April 27, 2015 I would highly recommend using our congestion control over others. However if you insist on that setup, the reason the Duma is inaccessible is that its in routing mode and the others are in bridge mode. We don't support bridge mode as we do quite a lot in packet processing for our algos. If you want to keep the setup, do as everyone else said and allow wan access in "Settings > Misc". You may have a few issues with ping graphs, but remember we don't support WAN access interface I just added it because a few people have a setup like yours and requested it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 I would highly recommend using our congestion control over others. However if you insist on that setup, the reason the Duma is inaccessible is that its in routing mode and the others are in bridge mode. We don't support bridge mode as we do quite a lot in packet processing for our algos. If you want to keep the setup, do as everyone else said and allow wan access in "Settings > Misc". You may have a few issues with ping graphs, but remember we don't support WAN access interface I just added it because a few people have a setup like yours and requested it. what kind of ping graph issues would I expect? would the ping displayed be inaccurate because then I might consider not using wan access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted April 27, 2015 Administrators Share Posted April 27, 2015 No its not inaccurate, it may not work. You may get an error message. If not you're fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procreate Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 You don't have that many devices... And running more than 1 router causes more problems than it solves. On a single IP subnet you get 254 devices. I can't imagine you have more than that. I have about 20 devices in my house. ONE router and a few switches. am I missing something Else with you setup? Your setup should be Modem-R1-switches-devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 my biggest reason for keep the asus around is that it has a few features I use not available on the netduma. also the house has 3 floors and 1 wifi isn't suffice i need one on each floor the linksys is setup as an access point and I would setup the netduma the same but it isn't capable of running that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 10, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 10, 2015 just to be clear mate if you enable WAN side access in "Settings > Misc" then you should be able to access it from the other side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 just to be clear mate if you enable WAN side access in "Settings > Misc" then you should be able to access it from the other side all ready done works like a charm. how ever my nat problems came back again today I disabled the filter rebooted the game and clicked apply on upnp started up connected with friends then turned the filter back on as soon as I did that the party chat failed again. I'm currenty playing without party chat. maybe you can fix it for me you said my filter may be blocking proper nat host Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted May 10, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted May 10, 2015 all ready done works like a charm. how ever my nat problems came back again today I disabled the filter rebooted the game and clicked apply on upnp started up connected with friends then turned the filter back on as soon as I did that the party chat failed again. I'm currenty playing without party chat. maybe you can fix it for me you said my filter may be blocking proper nat host It won't be blocking the NAT server if the GeoFilter is disabled. Can you confirm that the correct address is in your other router's DMZ as it is possible that the IP address has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 It won't be blocking the NAT server if the GeoFilter is disabled. Can you confirm that the correct address is in your other router's DMZ as it is possible that the IP address has changed. Well the party chat worked when I disabled the filter its when I put it back on the party chat failed. I just check the asus router all is still the same ip and mac address still the same btw I have it static through dhcp reservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netduma Staff Netduma Crossy Posted May 10, 2015 Netduma Staff Share Posted May 10, 2015 Well the party chat worked when I disabled the filter its when I put it back on the party chat failed. I just check the asus router all is still the same ip and mac address still the same btw I have it static through dhcp reservation. oh right, I see. Does it happen as soon as you switch it back on or is it when you try to join a new party? When it doesn't work is there a padlock/triangle on the GeoFilter? If there is can you click on it and post the ID here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 10, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 10, 2015 ok when it happens next time increase your geo-filter distance to the cover the entire world. Does the party chat fix itself? If so we will need to find the circle that appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 okay tried looking for triangle nothing popped up I didn't reset the game or anything and i make the filter fill the world one circle popped up in cali ff41ab76de93237 but the party chat still didn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procreate Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I.meant to delete my one post that doubled... You really shouldnt run 3x routers on a home network. You are asking for issues which is most certainly causing you problems. Put modem to R1 and into switches. See if it resolves you NAT issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Iain Posted May 11, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 11, 2015 Procreate is correct if there is geo-filter is disabled then it won't be the duma that is the cause. It's more likely it's a NAT issue. Have you put the duma in the DMZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spediegunz Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yes the Duma is in dmz, and nat says open both in setup screen test multiplayer, and on cod aw if I disable the filter before powering on and start up a party chat session it works fine. After the party chat has connected and I turn the filter back on the party chat disconnects. If I turn it back off again without resetting my system the party chat still fails. How can it be that I'm having nat issues if party chat works when filter is off and the xbox reports that the nat is open even after running the multiplayer test. Why is it the problems start to happen when the geo filter is on ? Did the ID of the host I posted not correspond to a nat server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procreate Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Did you try simplifying your setup? Try replacing main router with R1 and see if it works. If it does, you are not fully in DMZ, which is a misconception... Especially if other requests for port forwarding are made on that router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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