Special_Ed Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I would like to know what is the best aftermarket ps4 controller (excluding the xim. Feels like It would be cheating) lol And do aftermarket controllers last longer than the steenken stutter running ps4 controller after a few months?? Objective opinions please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TryHardUndies Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I own a Scuf & Cinch PS4 controllers. Prefer the Scuf. Cinch button position feels like I've got to hold the controller unnaturally, just my experience might suit others due to different hand sizes etc. Only problem with the Scuf is that I don't think they're very robust & reliable & they only come with a 3 month warranty. I'm just about to order my 3rd in 18 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hey Ed - Funny that this thread came up as I am in a bit of a transition myself. A couple of weeks ago I would have sworn by Battle Beaver Customs. Way better than a Scuf (which I have owned a few) in fit, feel and customer service. My last dealing with SCUF was exactly that, my last dealing with them. The BBC special upgraded trigger is a GOD SEND on a burst gun like the M8/XM-2/Pharo in BO3. The underside buttons are rock solid push buttons, not the levers like on the Scuf, so they are for one finger only. I absolutely love the BBC triggers, they are super tight and crisp, the problem is they are fragile in my clumsy hands. I have broken the triggers on two separate controllers and am now sending BOTH of them back to BBC for warranty repair. :-( I purchased a controller from Japan that was recommended by one of the guys here (I think it was NET-1), called a HORI FPS. It doesn't have any of the features of Scuf, BBC or Cinch (like trigger stops or underside buttons). The thing is, it's the size of an XB1 controller and it features buttons in place of rocker style triggers. which I really like. I've decided to create my own variation on the HORI platform and Chris from Battle Beaver is going to provide some technical assistance. I intend to do a thread on it, but I've been a little busy with some other stuff of late. If you are looking for an answer here, which I presume you are, I would recommend the Battle Beaver, but maybe don't opt for the upgraded triggers. The controller itself is a hell of a well built unit and the turn around time from order to knocking at the door delivery has always been faster than Scuf. YMMV, JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_Ed Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hey JD. Thanks for your very explanatory reply. I'll look up the Beavers now. Keep us updated on your progress with the controller! Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolidSnake Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I have a Scuf... I've had it for for 6-7 months now and it's already broken. All the paint around the sticks and buttons are also chipping away and the fit of the 'custom' shell is a little iffy and is not as snug as the stock PS4 controller. The custom Scuf thumbsticks have snapped on the edges and the right paddle has stopped working completely. The left paddle has slowly started to give up too. I've managed to open it up and check inside to see if I can fix it and it looks like Scuf hire monkeys to solder their controllers. I re-soldered the connections and it seems to be working ok for now. The right paddle is still a little intermittent, so I'm thinking the cable used for connecting their board to the pad has a break in it. I need to give the controller a very vigorous shake and it seems to work again. When it works it's fantastic, but that is seldom. Also, their delivery times are shocking and I'm 99.9% they don't even have a 'real' customer service. My controller was misdelivered 1st time around and it took 5 unanswered emails before I took to Twitter to complain. They magically responded ASAP when I did that. All in all it took well over 2 months (nearly 3!) to sort out. IMO they are a terrible company and MLG have put them on a pedestal that they don't deserve to be on. If it wasn't for YouTubers being sponsored by them and having them blow their trumpet, the company would have died a longtime ago for having shoddy products. It's OK for the ones who are sponsored by them though... I'm guessing if theirs break, Scuf will send out a new one ASAP and free of charge. That of course is complete speculation but I wont be spending my own hard earned money with them ever again. I'll be ordering a Cinch or more likely a Battle Beaver in a month or two. Even though they don't have the paddle layout, I'm hoping the quality of the build and customer service trump that of Scuf. Lukasz uses a Battle Beaver and I believe he loves it!P.S. Apologies for the rant. I hope in some way that I can help you save some money and buy an aftermarket controller that will last!Link to Battle Beaver below:http://battlebeavercustoms.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_smooch Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I had a thread about this a little while ago. i was asking about Nifty Customs (http://www.niftycustoms.com/)which pop up in my twitter feed quite a lot after they did a compo with netduma before i bought mine! The designs look super cool in the pics but i can't seem to find any rock solid reviews online for them! Still just another Name to chuck in the hat if you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procreate Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 yeah scuf sucks. wont ever order from them again. lately i have just been modding the controllers myself. that said, the PS4 controller kind of blows. i dont know what they did to the sticks but my thumbs wont stay on them. have to use a grip on the left and a freek on the right. my hands cramp up because they are too small for my hands if i play for any extended period on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolidSnake Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 yeah scuf sucks. wont ever order from them again. lately i have just been modding the controllers myself. that said, the PS4 controller kind of blows. i dont know what they did to the sticks but my thumbs wont stay on them. have to use a grip on the left and a freek on the right. my hands cramp up because they are too small for my hands if i play for any extended period on them. Sounds like a daft idea, but have you tried putting Sugru onto your sticks? It's a mouldable glue that sets with rubber qualities... https://sugru.com/about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolidSnake Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Theoretically, you could stick that stuff to the back of the pad too for extra grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_Ed Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Ok. Ordered a battle beaver controller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Sounds like a daft idea, but have you tried putting Sugru onto your sticks? It's a mouldable glue that sets with rubber qualities... https://sugru.com/about Interesting. I have a need for a product like this, so I went ahead and ordered up an (8) pack to experiment with for my controller project. More to follow... JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Ok. Ordered a battle beaver controller! Nice. What options did you get? I think you'll like it, Chris does great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolidSnake Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Ok. Ordered a battle beaver controller! Which button layout/position did you go for? Hoping to get mine very soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolidSnake Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Interesting. I have a need for a product like this, so I went ahead and ordered up an (8) pack to experiment with for my controller project. More to follow... JD Let me know how you get on with it. Sugru is an amazing product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Let me know how you get on with it. Sugru is an amazing product. Watched a couple of quick vids on it and it looks like something I need to have in the tool box, just in case. Thanks for the link, I'll post up some images when I get the new controller done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_Ed Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Thia is what I got: zCustom PS4 Controller Rear Buttons - Left Hand: Remappable Rear Buttons - Left Hand Position: Lower (Ring Finger) Rear Buttons - Right Hand: Remappable Rear Buttons - Right Hand Position: Lower (Ring Finger) Rear Buttons - Additional Left: None Rear Buttons - Additional Left Position: Select Button Placement Rear Buttons - Additional Right: None Rear Buttons - Additional Right Position: Select Button Placement Rear Buttons - Reprogrammable rear buttons: Add Remap Chip Rumbles - Rear (Handle) Rumble Motors: Include Thumbstick Tension - Left Stick Mechanisim: Increased Thumbstick Tension - Right Stick Mechanism: Increased Triggers - Trigger Stops: Smart Triggers JD, I have to try out this smart triggers thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I really like them man. They are fragile, seemingly only for me, but I do like them. Check out, when you get it, how short the actual pull is on the trigger to engage and fire. It's silly how small the difference is from off, to full tilt boogie...LOL Here's the HORI FPS: http://imgur.com/a/9ZTbs I really like the "triggers" on this model and the switch in the back is super cool, but I don't know how to apply it yet to my game style. I call it a Sniper switch, because when it's on, it slows down the tracking of your sticks, like it seriously decreases the speed. You LT to ADS like normal, then use your ring finger to touch this "always off" switch to engage it, and your adjustments are now super fine for getting headshots. I was playing with it against bots, on grade school, and it's really slick for guns like my beloved M8 too. I really want to try this in real game play and see if it helps me send those head-glitching fuckers down to Chiron for a boatride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_Ed Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 That "Target" switch dies sound handy. I wish one of these controllers had a "kill quick scoper" button. I hate those bastages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pesiss Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 There is also http://www.burn-controllers.com/, which is french company, I never tried their controllers but the designs are cool, they also have some weird paddles, I lke to call them batman paddles, looks really cool to use. The only thing is that I am not sure how robust they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoch Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Scuf uses a membrane type tact switch, which is basically a silicon bubble, that enables the spring back of a button press. I have had mine replaced once by scuf within two months and than I have replaced it 5 times in less than a year. The build quality is great, but this was a very poor choice in tact switches. I ended up buying a 12 dollar remapping board from eBay, a bag of 100 tact switches with a metal disc for the spring which should never wear out for 2.50 on Amazon and made my own Beaver Battle Custom or Cinch type controller from a stock controller. I like it much better than the Scuf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asentrix Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Evil controllers They're sick , you can choose whether or not to have mods installed Or you can buy a titan one and use xbox controllers etc on PS4 https://www.evilcontrollers.com/ps4-controller-creator.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranium2001 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just throwing this into the hat because I can't say enough good about my Xbox Elite controller. What about a Cronusmax and an Elite controller? The build quality is superb and the controller is like a tank. Just an opinion. Party on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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