Killhippie

The XR1000 is EOL pretty much. Netgear are a huge company and are moving on with Wi-Fi 7 don't blame Netgear they gave Netduma the chance but Netduma spent so time much patching their own routers that Netgear got fed up of waiting for Netduma to sort out their side of the firmware, also the agreement would have only been for so long anyway, and now Netduma are reinventing themselves as a QOE company. In the early days the R1 was something new but as routers got more powerful with better features and the gaming world changed any router is a gaming router these days, routers are all so much more powerful than the R2 and R3 now and with AI gaining ground fast Netduma are years behind I fear.

 Netduma have changed track for their future, as a AI router or even a 6E/7 router will game better than the R2 and R3. Netduma are not a hardware company hence QOE and the new name Optima! Surely you have noticed these forums are very quiet these days, that says a lot. A router that can work faster than a human with Dynamic QoS makes and real DPI with 2.6Ghz CPU's and huge amounts of ram to run AI which means Duma OS is obsolete and ad blockers belong on browsers not routers, but if you want that feature buy a Synology router which has that feature very well implemented, and with great firmware.

Netgear are moving on as the Frankenstein firmware sandwich was a match made in hell. You really don't need a gaming router to game, most people know that these days as it was just a way of hiking prices for silly features and a OS that still has the same problems from the XR500 days.

Netgear are moving on as the Frankenstein firmware sandwich was a match made in hell. You really don't need a gaming router to game, most people know that these days as it was just a way of hiking prices for silly features and a OS that still has the same problems from the XR500 days.

Also making a router with enough memory to handle its features would really help, cheapening out and changing names of features like WMM which every Wi-Fi router has isnt fooling anyone. People are moving on either to wifi 6E or 7 and this isn't even a wave 1 Wi-Fi 6 router. Not enough memory, not much flash ram and no proper OEM Wi-Fi drivers, just WRT ones that don't work well. This is why the router keeps having issues its cheaply made that's fine but don't cheap out on the internal hardware, most routers have 1GB ram, how much does the R3 256mb? Its just not enough with bloated code that needs more ram to function. Sorry but that's just my opinion. A memory leak on a R3 would sink the router in no time, and has! Thats why the GUI comes to a halt as memory issues freeze the router, also it should not keep needing to be rebooted, mine gets a reboot maybe every 3 months, and the ones at work I manage don't need one at all until we do a lift and shift of gear to the cloud. More money where it counts would have helped the R2 and R3 and not trying to make it look like a crab with collapsing antenna might have helped its cooling too.

Try looking at the rest of his reviews, very honest and  not biased to any router manufacturer at all after all he has been around for a very long time.  

Try looking at the rest of his reviews, very honest and  not biased to any router manufacturer at all after all he has been around for a very long time.  

Very bias review, he's likely on the payroll of Asus.

A few words of criticism and he's already on payroll at Asus? LOL.

That’s it done with netduma , awful cheap trash never worked how it should do. Nearly 7 months in can’t even stay connected to the internet. Scum of a company. Netduma Fraser you’ve been as helpful as you can be but you’re let down by the idiots above you. The whole things needs trading standards looking at it.

You do use a router that's EOL and is based on a chipset from 2015 (R7800 chipset) with reworked antennae which didn't give such good wireless. As above you wont ever get the full 1000Mbps as the router always has overheads as in it has to pass though the router, and never use QoS on anything above 200-300 Mbps, its not needed as you will never saturate your line apart from a speed test. Also don't use a router that sacrifices download and upload throughput to make buffer bloat better, you are loosing out on what you are paying for if you do, and apart from downloading which will be at the speeds Microsoft servers dictate by throttling  your connection on downloading games so people cant overload their servers otherwise their over heads would be huge, a Gaming Console needs very little throughput in actual use. 

Ill just leave this here. And ive already tried both of your guy's suggestions - QOS OFF

and dont believe everything you read on the internet. As i assure you 1000+ on console speed test is real. (before and after for you to look at )
SPEEDS are TRASH!.mp4

You do use a router that's EOL and is based on a chipset from 2015 (R7800 chipset) with reworked antennae which didn't give such good wireless. As above you wont ever get the full 1000Mbps as the router always has overheads as in it has to pass though the router, and never use QoS on anything above 200-300 Mbps, its not needed as you will never saturate your line apart from a speed test. Also don't use a router that sacrifices download and upload throughput to make buffer bloat better, you are loosing out on what you are paying for if you do, and apart from downloading which will be at the speeds Microsoft servers dictate by throttling  your connection on downloading games so people cant overload their servers otherwise their over heads would be huge, a Gaming Console needs very little throughput in actual use. 

Turn off QoS, it’s not needed!! Retest
try testing on anything else but console. 
 
don’t expect a gig though, it’s old.

@DARKNESS
It is the first firmware on S24 ULTRA.

@euphidraI know that's why I am saying to downgrade versions and that should fix the problem and wait till your provider addresses the WiFi bug and then once's it is you can upgrade back to the latest OS.

Thats not the same as a ISP DNS server using DNSSEC (which mine does) which safeguards DNS data against various cyber threats, such as DNS cache poisoning, DNS hijacking, and man-in-the-middle attacks.

I saw that Broadcom SoC, a 2x2 not a 4X4. It actually supports 6E too. I wonder if the R3 used Broadcom drivers instead of generic drivers if the WI-Fi would be more stable?

I saw that Broadcom SoC, a 2x2 not a 4X4. It actually supports 6E too. I wonder if the R3 used Broadcom drivers instead of generic drivers if the WI-Fi would be more stable?

WPA3 is needed for 6E its not a mandatory feature of WiFi 6. 
 
all the subsets under WiFi 6 are not mandatory unless it’s registered with the WiFi alliance who list their requirements. However many of the features under WiFi 6 were aimed at helping within congested environments and increasing MU MiMo if clients supported it as well as client battery saving and protected management frames. Some features were never added but along pops WiFi 7 and that’s another step up towards a better WiFi future.
A router does not require WiFi alliance certification. While they aim to help to bring a standard it’s not required and to be honest 99% of consumers don’t even know what WiFi alliance is. More importantly is does not guarantee a quality product, it’s simply aimed at standards.

Don’t forget a client must also support WPA3 as well as supported WiFi 6 and we still see a general lack of IoT for example that are well behind standards. As long as you have a nice long and complex password I can’t see an issue. The chances of anyone wanting to spend time getting into a home network is very small. 
 

As others have mentioned above, it's not required and doesn't impact speed/range. This is the chip being used: https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless/wireless-lan-infrastructure/bcm6756

I have a 6E router a Netgear RAXE500 that has a Broadcom BCM4908 1.8Ghz quad core SoC that has the ability to do all the subsets of 6E but its up to the vendor to decide for SOHO routers what to use for the user and the clients also need to support WPA3 etc most routers have WPA2-WPA3 AES and a good password is the best protection. As to the R3 I would say its more wifi 5.5 than 6 from what I can see and its not stellar Wi-Fi which as a home replacement router will have to deal with IoT clients which don't always come with Ethernet ports, like phones, wifi cameras and tablets etc. I would not trust the R3 to do that well as it has not from what I can tell been tested in a Lab environment like a Octoscope. people think this router is gaming only well if it was then the wifi would not matter, but its touted as a home router, so Wi-Fi is very important.

Chipsets are not WiFi alliance certified, they just meet the standards set out by the WiFi alliance. It’s what the company supports. The chipset within the R3 meets all the standards required but the WiFi alliance is a private company and many companies from Netgear, Unifi, don’t register all their products for certification. 
in theory the Alliance is a good idea but it requires money from a company to join it. 
it gets complex as depending on chipset mu mimo might be halved, ie a 2x2 turns to a 1x1. It’s where standards fall apart as the client and chipset may change.
ive a pixel 8, supports WiFi 7 but only does 160Mhz and not 320Mhz. These standards don’t always work out well but the question is will most notice.

Can we connect two netduma R3 units in mesh?

For a start Netgear are not really supporting Netduma products by the looks of it and many routers like the XR500/XR450 and XR300 and XR700 are end of life, this means no patches from Netgear or security support after 5 years from release, if you have one of these get a new router just for your own security, as Netduma are now trying to juggle their firmware and a bunch of Linux code with proprietary blobs from Netgear they cant update as they have no access to it. Please note Netduma handle the gaming side but the code they cant update is the base router code for security and bugs in Netgear's own firmware.
 The only router currently supported still is the XR1000 by the looks of it. If Netgear were going to put a full 6E Netduma router out that would have happened by now. Netgear are moving on to Wi-Fi 7 as is every other manufacturer now. A routers life is about 5 years then move on, and if you have FTTP over 300MBps you dont need QoS anyway. Get a pi-hole if you want to block adverts instead.

For those who don't want to watch the video this is a quick recap.
Things need to change with the Netduma Netgear partnership!
For those unaware I run a YouTube channel and for years now I've seen negative comments about the XR routers. The biggest one being updates have taken far too long. The other is that netduma and Netgear have not come out with a solid plan for the XR routers. 
NetDuma
Please take the time to let everyone know in multiple ways what the plans are for the XR routers! For a long time now I feel like the burden has been on me to communicate what little I know to my YouTube community. 
This is honestly taking the joy out of making DumaOS videos. People are frustrated that they spent good money on a product that hasn't had enough attention. 
The XR betas are a good step forward but not everyone knows they're available. What's even worse is many more don't care and have moved on.
Personally I think DumaOS has a lot of potential but the team needs to take control of the XR situation man up admit you made some mistakes and outline a solid plan of how you're going to fix them. 
Hopefully in a couple of weeks you guys can have a full outline of what the plans are. Then shout those plans at the top of your lungs to every social you're connected to. Let your community know we're not ignored and that you guys care. The policy of not talking about it until it's ready is no longer working for the XR routers.
All of these complaints are out of love for your product I really hope you listen and make some changes.
❤️ KB
 
https://youtu.be/cRkAbOmAPYg