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That depends on your network, the amount of clients and what’s being served via the net or internal sources.

If it’s your base ping that’s fluctuates then that’s down to your isp/line as a router has virtually no effect on this.

MU Mimo is only useful for clients that support it and you need at least 2 and to be within a fairly close proximity. 2.4Ghz is used mainly by IoT and these devices are normally WiFi 4 and so OFDMA has no effect on them. Some tend to isolate their IoT due to security as they are often left behind by security updates once they reach point of end of support while some get none. Latency will be higher and throughput will be slower. Add into it the streams and client wait time. I believe you are at max or round about for the Quest wireless connection. love my Quest 2, not bad tech for the price.

I believe it’s a known bug.

What was the device? NG logs can be shall we say not that reliable and it may have an error interpreting the information from the client.

Yep they don’t support 160Mhz, they will connect at 80Mhz as will any other client that does not support 160Mhz but some clients have issues when set to 160Mhz and very few clients support it. only the 6E devices will support 160Mhz which is the new iPad Pro. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/deployment/dep268652e6c/web

No, it’s a different CPU, the AL324 is not the AL314 used in the NG routers. One is 32bit the other is 64 ( have a guess which) and one is overlocked to achieve 1.7. 64 bit has more processing power and more ram access which some routers require for logging ie creating graphics for log in. The XR700 CPU is dated now.

And we are off! WiFi 7 launches this year looking at CES. Asus offering one on the 6Ghz band at 11525 and 10Gb ports. 46Gbs theoretical over all bands total. MSI have a wired looking one as does TP link. I bet Samsung release the first client and I’m hoping that we see a VR unit that will support it but it’s draft again. Begs the question, will we see the standard quicker this time round as WiFi 6 was hit by the Covid pandemic.

Yes WiFi 6E uses the 6Ghz upto 160Mhz and no issues with DFS unlike the 5Ghz where 160Mhz depending on country uses the DFS channels which is a problem as it has background resources working away and you lose 160Mhz if radar is detected as it has to move off DFS for a set amount of time. As that happens the router communicates to clients a change is needed then drops down. Not all DFS events are positive though so false detection can be an issue. WiFI 6 uses both 2.4 and 5Ghz and has a set of standards but not all routers or APs support the full feature set ie. Some 2.4Ghz don’t support WiFi 6 on some models, others are draft and so on. Its real use of WiFi 6 is for condensed areas where it benefits but it does offer better latency depending on client and setup. With 160Mhz the client must be compatible so your card is where as my iPad or iPhone can only do 80Mhz. The next issue for gaming is depending on the hardware it’s a waiting game for clients to connect. If you have a 2x2 5Ghz stream then it’s 1, 2x2 client at a time, a 4x4 would be 2 clients who are 2x2 or 4, 1x1. If the client is 3x3 then its max is 2 as a 1x1 client can also connect. When say you have 20 clients on say a single AP then latency increases as they all have to wait in turn and if one or more clients have errors in transmission then that adds more latency. Add into it the bandwidth a client needs ie.VR then that eats resources other clients need and you have issues. plus to obtain max throughput the client to achieve max QAM must be close which also applies to Mu Mimo clients and there you need 2 or more compatible clients to see any benefit. In condensed areas the noise limits the performance of 5Ghz at 160Mhz so you might end up with retransmissions even though the client shows a good connection rate. Same applies to 80 on 5Ghz so some use lower transmit power and a narrow channel ie.40Mhz on 5Ghz where neighbouring interference is an issue. on average I get around 2 to 3% retries on my iPad for example which indicates that it’s roaming at those points as I can see under the UI plus I’ve mapped out my property to keep the signal as close to optimum as possible for my clients vs APs. Retries can also happen if a client is close to the router or AP where the signal is too strong and errors occur. It’s just finding the balance of coverage vs interference and number of clients vs APs. The More APs then channel selection and interference can be an issue has you have to select different channels and watch the coverage vs transmit power or else you create more noise. That’s the weak point for mesh systems that offer basic controls for example as they tend to operate all on the same channels unless they are more aimed at the higher end of the market with a good control system built in.

Sadly I don’t use a PC so I’ve no experience with that card or setup. I looked it up and I can’t see where it supports 6E, just WiFi6 by the looks of it. https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/products/sku/130293/intel-wifi-6-ax201-gig/specifications.html

U.K. jolly expensive round my neck of the woods as I live in one of the most expensive areas in the U.K. I think the local town came out as the most expensive place in the U.K. Ridiculous prices and full of bankers and financial types.

True draft WiFi 7 will take a while but draft 3 WiFi 6 routers did well and they appeared in 2019. Yes 6E is limited on a gig connection but 6E was designed not only to increase throughput but lower levels of interference and lower latency so a VR for example matched to a PC with a compatible card gives you freedom of an open environment rather than having wires suspended from the ceiling. 6E can handle more clients too due to the increase in throughput. Yes you could say that the AP needs to match that but 6E has far more usage than just throughput. 6E will be very useful for high density environments and that’s really what it’s about. Unfortunately most tend to think it’s all about speed but it’s not. It’s why 2.4Ghz and even 5Ghz suffer, more so because end users use max output in the belief it’s best when in fact the noise level increases and a client see a strong signal but has poor communication which is why it’s never a good idea to run at max transmit unless the environment suits it. You would need to check the throughput of the switch to its outputs. As we know most switch’s don’t always share the full input to output, That bumps the price up and I would prefer a managed switch with a lot more than 10Gb internal movement and have a good degree of control. Layer 3 at least. Mine is with 4 10g sfp ports with 320Gbs switch capacity coupled with 48 port max 2.5Gb which is where my APs are connected too. Unfortunately the routers switches are limited to 1Gb but it has a 10g sfp port which is connected to the switch. But once again a normal house hold will see no difference and a gamer even less. I think it’s around £500 a month here for the big package.

VR to start with and multiple clients that use high resources. People think that if one device gets say 500 that’s great but I can swallow that up with VR. The days of cable are fast disappearing and as we head towards WiFi 7 while it will limit coverage on a single router due to the increase in frequency the latency will be very low. 6Ghz already helps with lower latency and less noise and is more than a match for cable on a one client connection at max QAM. I’ve not gamed on cable for ages but I have a fairly complex system with multiple APs running at correct outputs so clients are dedicated to various APs at low noise levels. Like most things tech moves forward, people use more smart devices, automation starts to increase, client devices increase, an ever evolving eco system that relies on wireless technology. it’s why Companies like Ruckus, Cisco, Netgear, Unifi, Asus, Juniper and all the rest invest heavily and why Mikrotek, Broadcom, intel and Qualcomm invest millions into research to increase the productivity of wireless technology to these companies. so an 8Gb connection might be great for a company who has servers or has a large client base on WiFi where they need that to handle the load like at an Apple conference (will have far more spread out on various outlet platforms to handle client base)or university but a house hold property gains nothing and even more so for gamers who use a small amount of data to game on say COD and at that point no one is going to be using a simple router to handle networks that might have dozens of APs around a site. Hell I can get 10Gb with Swiss here if I want to pay the obscene amount and that’s up and down but it’s pointless as I would need to spend a good couple of grand on switches and APs which are simply not needed for my use. One of the APs I have can handle 600 clients and that’s a total over kill but it covers the 6E and I need that as it’s compatible with the rest of my system. crunk asked and that’s the honest truth, a gig is plenty for households, pair with a good system and it covers your needs easily. Downloading from a single source that does not limit is not a good example of its use.

No, it’s great if you host servers but for general use with a property with APs the best on Wireless side is a 2.5 connection and then the rest is a rack system and switches which will be expensive and you are still limited on the WiFi side.

How are the extenders connected? if wired I can’t see and issue.

Merry Christmas, hope everyone has a wonderful time.

There was a version knocking about which was condemned on another forum. Hopefully you have an old beta one but if not I would strongly recommend you get it back to the NG firmware as it was not a trusted version.

Sounds like it’s hardware. Seen it before where the WiFi dies on the R9000 which is what the XR700 is based on and I’ve seen users trying all sorts from installing third party firmware to erasing the NG info. Unfortunately the WiFi is probably dead and no firmware will help. Sounds like corruption in memory if you can’t log in which can happen or there’s a hardware issue which is where some attempt to install above or wipe the NG code section. There are forums that run through deleting and installing firmware but it’s not supported here and with 99% of time it never fixes the issue. personally I would think it’s time to replace the router sadly. Yes I know it’s only 2 years old, here in the U.K. you could argue the fact that it’s life expectancy was below what’s expected but even then as it’s no longer produced you might not get a replacement of the same model.

Fast path is only on ECI cabs. A router can not alter that as it’s done at the exchange using dynamic line management. 6db is fast path so 9db means you were running slower due to your line stability. Hauwei cabs use g.imp. If your line is stable it can go down to 3db but again it’s dynamic line management. There are profiles like fast to super stable, fast tends to be the standard though. It all depends on the quality of your line. No router can control this. Vigor 130, not sure about the updated versions as the 130 was ECI but that modem can adjusted as per your request but it can muck your line up and you end up banded and that’s not good.

It’s absolutely fine for a gig connection. The cable will not solve your issues. what platform are you playing on?

How was the update performed and did you use the rear pin or the reset in the UI? did you by any chance use a saved profile config or did you set up as new insuring you added the expected speeds?

Move house closer to cabinet. Not sure on how you could move property but that would work !

If the routers not seeing the connection you need to trouble shoot it. First try a different cable to check that’s not an issue. If it was a common issue you would see it on the forum all the time so it’s unique to your setup so first step is to check connectivity

On a reset it wipes all previous info. have you tried a different Ethernet cable?

Is this via WiFi? what’s the bandwidth settings? Whats the security protocol?