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R3 review worth a read from a very experienced and knowledgable reviewer of network equipment.


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On 8/8/2024 at 6:33 PM, Nj12 said:

Very bias review, he's likely on the payroll of Asus.

Try looking at the rest of his reviews, very honest and  not biased to any router manufacturer at all after all he has been around for a very long time.  

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Also making a router with enough memory to handle its features would really help, cheapening out and changing names of features like WMM which every Wi-Fi router has isnt fooling anyone. People are moving on either to wifi 6E or 7 and this isn't even a wave 1 Wi-Fi 6 router. Not enough memory, not much flash ram and no proper OEM Wi-Fi drivers, just WRT ones that don't work well. This is why the router keeps having issues its cheaply made that's fine but don't cheap out on the internal hardware, most routers have 1GB ram, how much does the R3 256mb? Its just not enough with bloated code that needs more ram to function. Sorry but that's just my opinion. A memory leak on a R3 would sink the router in no time, and has! Thats why the GUI comes to a halt as memory issues freeze the router, also it should not keep needing to be rebooted, mine gets a reboot maybe every 3 months, and the ones at work I manage don't need one at all until we do a lift and shift of gear to the cloud. More money where it counts would have helped the R2 and R3 and not trying to make it look like a crab with collapsing antenna might have helped its cooling too.

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On 10/8/2024 at 6:33 AM, Killhippie said:

Also making a router with enough memory to handle its features would really help, cheapening out and changing names of features like WMM which every Wi-Fi router has isnt fooling anyone. People are moving on either to wifi 6E or 7 and this isn't even a wave 1 Wi-Fi 6 router. Not enough memory, not much flash ram and no proper OEM Wi-Fi drivers, just WRT ones that don't work well. This is why the router keeps having issues its cheaply made that's fine but don't cheap out on the internal hardware, most routers have 1GB ram, how much does the R3 256mb? Its just not enough with bloated code that needs more ram to function. Sorry but that's just my opinion. A memory leak on a R3 would sink the router in no time, and has! Thats why the GUI comes to a halt as memory issues freeze the router, also it should not keep needing to be rebooted, mine gets a reboot maybe every 3 months, and the ones at work I manage don't need one at all until we do a lift and shift of gear to the cloud. More money where it counts would have helped the R2 and R3 and not trying to make it look like a crab with collapsing antenna might have helped its cooling too.

I agree with the RAM part, I know the R3 struggles with memory optimization since they need it due to lack of physical memory. But I honestly could care less about the Wi-Fi, especially standards past Wi-Fi 6 as most devices haven't broken past that either. Honestly if they could have dropped in a gig of physical ram, added a 2.5Gb wan port or at least aggregation, more LAN ports and a better 3 channel Wi-Fi setup they'd have an absolute beast. But I also understand they're a small company and looking to sell as many units with the best profit (cost/retail). If they built a bigger better unit and sold it for a lot more, not as many people would be able to afford it and they wouldn't reach the profits they'd need to continue what the they do. Maybe in the future we can convince them to maybe launch 2 in series as maybe an R4 and an R4 pro (or whatever you'd call the big brother) and rely on the smaller more affordable unit for profit needs and the bigger model for flex (you know show people what they can really do) and maybe also so they can see there's still a big market for pricey network equipment.

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On 10/23/2024 at 9:13 PM, Proud R3 Owner said:

I agree with the RAM part, I know the R3 struggles with memory optimization since they need it due to lack of physical memory. But I honestly could care less about the Wi-Fi, especially standards past Wi-Fi 6 as most devices haven't broken past that either. Honestly if they could have dropped in a gig of physical ram, added a 2.5Gb wan port or at least aggregation, more LAN ports and a better 3 channel Wi-Fi setup they'd have an absolute beast. But I also understand they're a small company and looking to sell as many units with the best profit (cost/retail). If they built a bigger better unit and sold it for a lot more, not as many people would be able to afford it and they wouldn't reach the profits they'd need to continue what the they do. Maybe in the future we can convince them to maybe launch 2 in series as maybe an R4 and an R4 pro (or whatever you'd call the big brother) and rely on the smaller more affordable unit for profit needs and the bigger model for flex (you know show people what they can really do) and maybe also so they can see there's still a big market for pricey network equipment.

Only IoT clients tend to not be WiFi 6 but WiFi6 is now used widely used and while only a small group don’t care the greater number of users require good WiFi. Hell I’ve WiFi 7 clients now. 
 

I personally think there will not be a R4, looking at the way they are moving towards QoE I would say that’s going to be far more beneficial and financially stable than selling a router for a very small market of end-users. Clearly releasing one router at a time is not a company evolving, it’s keeping to its format and looking to branch into other areas. Service areas is a good call. 

the small company does not hold up, look at others and how they have grown over the years. Trouble is it’s a very small market and so returns are small. Yes companies start but the choice to remain in such a small market is a choice they make rather than say for example Netgear or the later in the game Ubiquiti. 

I can’t for the life of me think of another router that needs rebooting to clear out memory, it’s not the 1980 we live in, it’s something that went out with the ark. 
 

to compete against the other big boys to produce a top notch with a complete overhaul of its firmware is just not going to happen, they can’t compete that way because the end product would be so expensive and for a small company the risks are too great for such a small number of end users. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Newfie said:

Only IoT clients tend to not be WiFi 6 but WiFi6 is now used widely used and while only a small group don’t care the greater number of users require good WiFi. Hell I’ve WiFi 7 clients now. 
 

I personally think there will not be a R4, looking at the way they are moving towards QoE I would say that’s going to be far more beneficial and financially stable than selling a router for a very small market of end-users. Clearly releasing one router at a time is not a company evolving, it’s keeping to its format and looking to branch into other areas. Service areas is a good call. 

the small company does not hold up, look at others and how they have grown over the years. Trouble is it’s a very small market and so returns are small. Yes companies start but the choice to remain in such a small market is a choice they make rather than say for example Netgear or the later in the game Ubiquiti. 

I can’t for the life of me think of another router that needs rebooting to clear out memory, it’s not the 1980 we live in, it’s something that went out with the ark. 
 

to compete against the other big boys to produce a top notch with a complete overhaul of its firmware is just not going to happen, they can’t compete that way because the end product would be so expensive and for a small company the risks are too great for such a small number of end users. 

 

 

Well that's just it, they're not a router company like Netgear/ubiquity, they're an innovative software company. I believe they produce routers with their software/firmware not as their main source of income but I could be wrong.  Also I did say I'm not concerned about standards past Wi-Fi 6 as most people don't own anything with a higher standard yet. I believe 6 is pretty standard right now device wise as networking advancements always come before the devices that support them.  Also you don't need to reboot the R3 to clear the cache as it clears itself periodically. Most people would have to reboot only when they'd lose connection but I believe they've fixed that (291) and their future FW will incorporate that fix without sacrifice to throughout speed.

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15 hours ago, Proud R3 Owner said:

Well that's just it, they're not a router company like Netgear/ubiquity, they're an innovative software company. I believe they produce routers with their software/firmware not as their main source of income but I could be wrong.  Also I did say I'm not concerned about standards past Wi-Fi 6 as most people don't own anything with a higher standard yet. I believe 6 is pretty standard right now device wise as networking advancements always come before the devices that support them.  Also you don't need to reboot the R3 to clear the cache as it clears itself periodically. Most people would have to reboot only when they'd lose connection but I believe they've fixed that (291) and their future FW will incorporate that fix without sacrifice to throughout speed.

Nope they sell a router, that in its own right is a router company but they have not progressed and since the R3 struggles with memory and we see posts asking for reboot schedules tells you there is an issue. They simply don’t have the interest or income on that to compete.

It’s still relies on web cache which also went out years ago, it’s really dated now and the only unique item is geo filtering. As for WiFi 6 I can’t see a single statement of what subsets it supports, nothing mentioned which is unique in its self. I’ve also never seen a security update which is rather unique too. Does it support OFDMA, TwT, PMF, BSS Coloring, who knows because nothing is mentioned.
I think their future is services rather than routers and with QoE which they clearly show you can tell the direction they are moving which I think is the right way. Why waste money on hardware when there are more viable options that involve a greater aspect of networking compared to a small number of end users playing COD which is their core audience. Times are changing, even my ex MP has moved into QoE.
 

 

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