D3mon1c Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Every time I try to optimize my ping (I have it on expert btw instead of simple because I want my down/up adjusted the best it can go for) it keeps like leaving it on 100% for both instead of like adjusting it lower (Which I thought it would be doing) is it because I optimize my ping when theres no traffic with my bandwidth & I test it when Im like the only one using it? I guess what im asking is would it optimize it better IF there was heavy traffic going on during optimization? Also my bandwidth is 800 down 20 up but I naturally change it to lower when im about to game to like 20 down 2 up or whatever but right now I have it set for 200 down 5 up but its saying its perfect as is no customization which is kinda blowing my mind right now because I don't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrayDay Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 4 hours ago, D3mon1c said: Every time I try to optimize my ping (I have it on expert btw instead of simple because I want my down/up adjusted the best it can go for) it keeps like leaving it on 100% for both instead of like adjusting it lower (Which I thought it would be doing) is it because I optimize my ping when theres no traffic with my bandwidth & I test it when Im like the only one using it? I guess what im asking is would it optimize it better IF there was heavy traffic going on during optimization? Also my bandwidth is 800 down 20 up but I naturally change it to lower when im about to game to like 20 down 2 up or whatever but right now I have it set for 200 down 5 up but its saying its perfect as is no customization which is kinda blowing my mind right now because I don't believe it. I'm believing more in today's time. That it's best to at least conduct tests when the connection is busy. I've seen it mentioned by numerous users from lowering their connection speeds for Congestion Control 'QoS' to work. Even Fraser mentioned this recently. It also was recent posts from @Chaiyoabc to saturate or busy the connection. That I tried the same, and it does seem like it's even better in stabilizing the connection For example, I tried your settings and using pingplotter to show an example of how one connection would look if you were streaming while gaming using copper/cable ISP internet. Minimizing the jitter in keeping it within as low jitter as possible. In my screenshot, some shoots over 10ms and at the end it somewhat minimizes using 20/10. But , this is for my connection. Other users will vary. It's just to get an idea, a visual. Also, my real connection is 900/40. You have to understand. Currently, Ping Optimizer I believe is a GENERAL sense in minimizing the bufferbloat etc. It's basically, plug and play in a sense for the casual gamers that want to ensure their home is buffer-free gaming. That's why there's an ADVANCED option, given the more ADVANCED users control in controlling their network and doing the test needed, and thus also getting pointers here in the forum. So, yes, in a sense. You do have quite the bandwidth to suffice for ONE device on your network. Nothing is using it, thus is calculated, you have the adequate bandwidth = 100% sliders. I do believe it's more room that can be had for ping optimizer, but, in the general sense. It does what it needs to, generally. D3mon1c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3mon1c Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 So to sum up what you just said... Ina nutshell the optimizer COULD be better than what it currently is, I have so much bandwidth that streaming devices won't I guess make me lag in general I suppose & EVEN IF they're was a hardcore download in the background I believe the best counter to that would honestly be toning down my bandwidth overall to almost the bare minimum to counteract bad buffferbloat/lag (Personal thought on this matter I haven't exploited this & I also say this 4rm a multiple modem standpoint cause I have the R3 setup for myself & everyone else hooked onto a different modem) & if I wanna get a better reading on the Ping optimizer I should do it when most of the bandwidth is being used & not just some abysmal amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrayDay Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, D3mon1c said: So to sum up what you just said... Ina nutshell the optimizer COULD be better than what it currently is, I have so much bandwidth that streaming devices won't I guess make me lag in general I suppose & EVEN IF they're was a hardcore download in the background I believe the best counter to that would honestly be toning down my bandwidth overall to almost the bare minimum to counteract bad buffferbloat/lag (Personal thought on this matter I haven't exploited this & I also say this 4rm a multiple modem standpoint cause I have the R3 setup for myself & everyone else hooked onto a different modem) & if I wanna get a better reading on the Ping optimizer I should do it when most of the bandwidth is being used & not just some abysmal amount? Yes, you understand it correctly. Ping Optimizer, with its default settings. ONLY test for DOWNLOAD and not upload. It's not until you click "EXPERT" in the Ping Optimizer, where it will test for BOTH, Download and Upload. Secondly, there's an option to run 'RUN FULL TEST'. This will take a long time to get to the bottom of your connection and using this, with also clicking "EXPERT" in Ping Optimizer, will go in-depth and getting some decent results. It's ideal, to have R3, handling ALL devices on your network. But, you did mention another MODEM, handling your family connection. So you have TWO Internet Service Providers in your if you're using another Modem. So, you don't have to necessarily worry about that connection. D3mon1c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 20 Administrators Share Posted June 20 Ping Optimizer does depend on the servers you're using for testing as well as what may be happening on your network/upstream. I would generally advise the method from the link to my comment above - it allows you to fully saturate the network and really be able to fine tune CC for the best results D3mon1c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3mon1c Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 I might've been wrong about the modem... I get it confused I 4get the difference between what is what but I bought 2... Ima say routers I think & they're both hooked into my ISP modem I believe? But yeah is it even possible to still get lag by those standards because I don't think I've ever gotten lag really probably because of the massive amount of bandwidth I have to work with but if the other router is using alot of bandwidth the perfect fix for lag would just be to throttle down my R3 & the other router not have access to all the bandwidth right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 21 Administrators Share Posted June 21 Right okay so if I've go this right you have one modem with two routers connected - the R3 just for you and another just for the rest of the house is that right? If so you're dealing with the routing of the modem then the R3 and then all the other devices using the internet that the R3 can't control which isn't ideal. Yes in theory if you throttle both it should limit the amount of lag you get. D3mon1c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3mon1c Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 I don't have much choice because the wifi on the R3 doesn't have the best signal compared to the R1 or XR1000 so I have a different router newly bought for family devices while my stuff is hooked into R3's wifi because if I move 4rm my room to like my kitchen then the wifi gets pretty wonky that I naturally have to switch it to my hotspot when I go around my house then switch it back to the R3 when I'm back in my room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 22 Administrators Share Posted June 22 You could do modem > R3 > XR1000 in AP mode for example and that should give you the range you need while allowing the R3 to control everything D3mon1c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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