Movement Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I try everything manual and ping optimiser and still I can't get stable ping gangrel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 13 Administrators Share Posted June 13 From the looks of your top graph it's only fluctuating by amount 5ms which is pretty good, if you can't get any better than that'll be the best you can achieve which is still very good and actually your game ping is showing better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movement Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 It's higher I tried to record it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 13 Administrators Share Posted June 13 What Congestion Control settings are you using? What values have you tried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movement Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: What Congestion Control settings are you using? What values have you tried? 50/50 70/70 70/80 93/86 now 93/93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 @MovementFrom the looks that pretty standard on my line I get spikes of about 30-45ms but it nothing surprising especially coming from coax...there only so much you can do to minimize congestion spikes especially when it comes from the local network line. To add Steady Ping won't reflect using expert mode so it something you have to test within the game if it active something I've pointed out before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movement Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, DARKNESS said: @MovementFrom the looks that pretty standard on my line I get spikes of about 30-45ms but it nothing surprising especially coming from coax...there only so much you can do to minimize congestion spikes especially when it comes from the local network line. To add Steady Ping won't reflect using expert mode so it something you have to test within the game if it active something I've pointed out before... I trying mate everything but nothing can stabilize it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 @MovementAre we talking about steady ping or ping-plotter? Just to note I did see that your getting high spikes on upload so from what I recollect using ping optimizer will just give you the best results in theory of speeds but not congestion as I used to have 40mbs upload and I would suffer from loss on the upstream even though it wasn't throttled so what I'd suggest is going 50% on the upload as this is something that isn't easily reflected on ping plotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movement Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 6 minutes ago, DARKNESS said: @MovementAre we talking about steady ping or ping-plotter? Just to note I did see that your getting high spikes on upload so from what I recollect using ping optimizer will just give you the best results in theory of speeds but not congestion as I used to have 40mbs upload and I would suffer from loss on the upstream even though it wasn't throttled so what I'd suggest is going 50% on the upload as this is something that isn't easily reflected on ping plotter. Pingplotter 50% upload how about download you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 13 Administrators Share Posted June 13 48 minutes ago, Movement said: 50/50 70/70 70/80 93/86 now 93/93 Start at 95% do a test, go down by 10%, do a test, down by 10 rinse repeat until you've found the best result and then try 5% either side of that value to see if it can be fine tuned anymore. A standard connection will not be flat so if that's what you're aiming for it won't be possible but doing this will get you as close as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movement Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 16 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: Start at 95% do a test, go down by 10%, do a test, down by 10 rinse repeat until you've found the best result and then try 5% either side of that value to see if it can be fine tuned anymore. A standard connection will not be flat so if that's what you're aiming for it won't be possible but doing this will get you as close as possible. On speed test I suppose to put 1gbps download and 100 Mbps upload or run speed test ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movement Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 it's 95% 95% Alway ON without activity Zli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 @MovementWhat you want is for there to be activity if your not having any activity there not going to be an impact and it going to look pretty much stable so you can do a speed test and or download and application and look how the network is affected the best way is to reload an 8-12k video. If your doing the downstream test and it affecting the network then keep lowering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zli Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Hi, I have a question. When the setting is done on the Ping Plotter and a satisfactory line is there. Then after WaveForm (Bufferbloat) is done and the result is B or C. Which test should I trust more!?. Go to A+ (knowing that it can break the Ping Plotter) or leave the Ping Plotter well set and forget about A or A+.? thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrayDay Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 25 minutes ago, Zli said: Hi, I have a question. When the setting is done on the Ping Plotter and a satisfactory line is there. Then after WaveForm (Bufferbloat) is done and the result is B or C. Which test should I trust more!?. Go to A+ (knowing that it can break the Ping Plotter) or leave the Ping Plotter well set and forget about A or A+.? thank you I personally would say to give both a try. Run each setting and give a good gaming session a go. See which one performs well for you. Do understand, that waveform and bufferbloat are third party tools used to get a general assessment in how YOUR ISP line is holding up. Ping plotter, you can see first hand how your latency is handling any type of jitter. The least amount the better. But, also keep in mind, this is for THAT SERVER BEING TESTED, whatever IP you used to test. As this is just a general test. Same with waveform bufferbloat, it's testing their servers. Which ever servers they may be. But, it's against their server. You're getting a general idea how your ISP line is holding up. Now, once you figured out which is good to your liking, you can give your game a go. No, your connection is against that server. It will be slightly different, because you're factoring in many variables. Server load(how many people are playing on this server, which u cannot see). Server stability, how well it's able to holdup to being able to hold this many players.... etc, list goes on. So, using ping plotter and or waveform, you're just getting a general idea. This is why I say, play different servers. You might find a different server, holds up well to your connection. But, if you want to just A answer to your question. Go with pingplotter. I'll even give u a hint that may help. When you're in-game match, check the 'stats for nerds' from SmartBOOST page and find your console/PC. There you will see a (i) . Click it and see what is the server IP you're playing on. Then, run pingplotter against this IP. You might not get a response. BUT, test the HOP before the LAST HOP. This will give you a better idea of how your connection is holding up. But, don't take this as face value. As this is NOT THE IP but close enough. Zli, bbursley and Netduma Fraser 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKNESS Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 @ZliPingplotter as it actually tracing every bit of information needed not only that you can test several servers to see actual performance over time and you can see whether it an issue on your end or a server something you can't do with waveform. As @TrayDaysays it helpful to get a general idea if you have a really bad congestion but not mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 14 Administrators Share Posted June 14 15 hours ago, Movement said: On speed test I suppose to put 1gbps download and 100 Mbps upload or run speed test ? 14 hours ago, Movement said: it's 95% 95% Alway ON without activity Put the speeds you pay for/expect ideally. That'll be your base ping essentially, it does have some variance but not too bad, that's the best you can hope to achieve when there is traffic and you're utilizing QoS. So do it with activity and see how close you can get to those results using the method I mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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