Alves910 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 do any of these settings need to be turn off if im runing dmz mode on my consle i feel like i still have input delay in the games i play i mostly play sport games where i get packet loss in game and inputdelay and i also get high ping i also live near a servers that usually get 25 or 30 ping but in my sports game ping for me i get 25 then it will spike to 55 or 60 i feel like some type of settings is causing even in cod matchs i feel a input delay in the bullet registration been trying to fix this for almost 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 24 Administrators Share Posted May 24 What is the model of the modem/router the XR is connected to and how have you set that to ensure all traffic flows to the XR? E.g. XR in its DMZ, modem/bridge mode Are ALL devices connected to the XR? Can you provide a screenshot of the QoS and Geo-Filter page please? You're not receiving any packet loss (bottom graph is the one to focus on), hard to tell without the scale on the left but ping generally seems low, it does fluctuate but can't tell by how much and you do have a spike though its not huge so could be QoS needs to be fine tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 i have modem that connected to the xr500 the modem is a cm1000v2 . also which is the scale so i can take a pic for it , modem is connected to my xr500 and main ps5 is hard wired to the XR500 with my pc but i only have my ps5 in DMZ for open nat always because i other ps5 and pc on the same time but they are on Wi-Fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 24 Administrators Share Posted May 24 You're not using QoS (apart from Traffic Prio) or the Geo-Filter so that will explain it. Have a look at our optimal settings guides here https://support.netduma.com/en/support/solutions/folders/16000090646 and that will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 do you have any tip on how to adjust the congestion control perfect and how do i make sure im testing the congestion control on ping plotter right should i have some type of setting enable when testing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted May 27 Administrators Share Posted May 27 I'd suggest testing with downloads while following: https://bit.ly/bufferbloat-test start with a high value e.g 95%, test, decrease 10%, test, decrease 10% etc, until you get to a value that is pretty good, then try 5% either side of that value to see if it can be improved. Important to note that Download/Upload on CC don't have to be the same value & you may have a better experience with differing values. This is more of a real world test as you're actually doing traffic you would normally do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 I tried adjusting it before did not help my problem. even when no ones home and the internet is not being used there's always a input delay I'm also playing near servers or opponents. I stop messing with the Congestion Control felt like it was making my problem some what good for 1 day then bad the next day. i only run Traffic Prioritization because it lowers my ping some what but dose not help my input . I feel like its some thing else that is causing my input delay i think this could be something that is causing it [DumaOS] Backing up settings to config partition., Saturday, June 01, 2024 10:57:19 [DumaOS] Cloudsync DPI result 'nil','failed to sync', Saturday, June 01, 2024 10:57:19 [DumaOS] Cloudsync DPI 'skipping mirror', Saturday, June 01, 2024 10:57:19 [DumaOS] Cloudsync DPI 'HTTP sync failed', Saturday, June 01, 2024 10:57:19 [DumaOS] HTTP download failed with code '404', Saturday, June 01, 2024 10:57:19 [DumaOS] Ubus object 'com.netdumasoftware.dpiclass' now bound, Saturday, June 01, 2024 10:57:19 [DumaOS] Ubus object 'com.netdumasoftware.dpiclass' added, attempting to bind pending, Saturday, June 01, 2024 10:57:19 [DumaOS] Ubus object 'com.netdumasoftware.dpiclass' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 1 Administrators Share Posted June 1 What game is it you're playing? Try forcing servers slightly further away even if they have a higher ping, they may play better if you're being lag compensated. The log entries there won't be causing any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 I play cod and fifa just found out the difference between lag and ping spikes il be playing cod bullet registration in the same game is different in game some it hits my the enemy fast some times slow and on fifa my ping is high every game starts from 34 then spikes to 80 its never steady its always moveing up and down in the same game both near and far from servers . i tired forcing servers slightly further also dosent help my problem on both games in the pics i sent i get the orange logo almost every game i play i tired adjusting cc cant get it stright and when i get some what close works for 1 day then the next makes my connection worst . i can show u gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted June 18 Administrators Share Posted June 18 That does sound exactly like a congestion issue, what is the model of the modem/router the XR is connected to and how have you set that to ensure all traffic flows to the XR? E.g. XR in its DMZ, modem/bridge mode. Are ALL devices connected to the XR? What Congestion Control settings did you end up on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2W Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) On 6/18/2024 at 10:36 AM, Netduma Fraser said: That does sound exactly like a congestion issue, what is the model of the modem/router the XR is connected to and how have you set that to ensure all traffic flows to the XR? E.g. XR in its DMZ, modem/bridge mode. Are ALL devices connected to the XR? What Congestion Control settings did you end up on? Sorry to jump in on this @Netduma Fraser. As i feel and can share his experience. Just a quicky , What do you exactly mean when you say "XR in its DMZ, modem/bridge mode" - I think i have a good idea what your trying to say. But i also buy scratch off tickets and think im gonna win a million every time ... everytime im wrong. So if you could elaborate a little further and is it beneficial to do this setup? Last little tiny quesiton for you, But how do i ensure all traffic flows to the XR from my CM2000 modem? Oh and if you were gonna ask me what you asked him then CG is set at 100/100 (have already tried both at 70 and yes ive "experimented" with more. I do not feel i have understood it at all yet. Thanks in advance. Just feel the need to ask since currently feel the same as @Alves910 Edited June 20 by L2W added QOS settings screenshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 spectrum cable <---> gose to my Modem netgearcm1000v2 <--> connects to my NETGEAR Nighthawk Pro Gaming XR500 ) curtly useing 2 lan ports for pc and ps5 and the rest of my devices are on wifi. i set Congestion Control back to 100/100 because no matter which number i adujust it to makes my network worst the next day i try to adust CC with ping plotter try i to get the lines on ping plotter graph to not spike up as much was possible when i feel like i got it some what the gameplay would feel good 1 day then next day my connection gose bad and my gameing online is even worst then what i was trying to fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrayDay Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 22 minutes ago, Alves910 said: spectrum cable <---> gose to my Modem netgearcm1000v2 <--> connects to my NETGEAR Nighthawk Pro Gaming XR500 ) curtly useing 2 lan ports for pc and ps5 and the rest of my devices are on wifi. i set Congestion Control back to 100/100 because no matter which number i adujust it to makes my network worst the next day i try to adust CC with ping plotter try i to get the lines on ping plotter graph to not spike up as much was possible when i feel like i got it some what the next day my connection gose bad and my gameing online is even worst then what i was trying to fix I have spectrum. I know you're using your own modem. Along, with using, the XR1000. Something I've noticed that may be overlooked is that you have your UPLOAD set to 10mbps in the screenshot. It's not 100mbps as you mentioned. Double check and see if you have your UPLOAD set to 100mbps and not 10mbps. I also want to share with you something I found recently regarding, pingplotter. I found setting pingplotter, to use ONE cpu only. Helps with it from acting up. I noticed this for quite some time. If pingplotter, was in the background of another app I had open. I noticed my ping was a little smoother. But, when I clicked on pingplotter from being background to a foreground app. It acted sporadic. Changing the pingplotter to only use ONE cpu, helped get a better grasp of the connection. Again, this is from one spectrum user to another and being able to diagnose little better with pingplotter. I don't have XR, but the screenshot below is with the Netduma R3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, TrayDay said: I have spectrum. I know you're using your own modem. Along, with using, the XR1000. Something I've noticed that may be overlooked is that you have your UPLOAD set to 10mbps in the screenshot. It's not 100mbps as you mentioned. Double check and see if you have your UPLOAD set to 100mbps and not 10mbps. I also want to share with you something I found recently regarding, pingplotter. I found setting pingplotter, to use ONE cpu only. Helps with it from acting up. I noticed this for quite some time. If pingplotter, was in the background of another app I had open. I noticed my ping was a little smoother. But, when I clicked on pingplotter from being background to a foreground app. It acted sporadic. Changing the pingplotter to only use ONE cpu, helped get a better grasp of the connection. Again, this is from one spectrum user to another and being able to diagnose little better with pingplotter. I don't have XR, but the screenshot below is with the Netduma R3. my spectrum speeds are 100 download and 10 upload so should i set 100 up load on the set bandwidth speeds ? and on the 2nd post are you saying its better to use the spectrum modem for testing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrayDay Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 No, you're fine with your connection if it is 100 download and 10 upload. 100 mbps should be decent enough for a household. But, I could see 10mbps upload, being a possible issue. But, not rule out what the Congestion Control can do. For example, using 'Always' to ensure that the CC is always working to ensure each device don't handicap the other when download or, more importantly, when streaming. I know you mentioned that you change the sliders, and whatever percentage you use, doesn't seem to help. Sometimes, starting fresh can help mitigate some issues. Factory resetting the XR, and set it up accordingly, while also using the 'always' option, in the congestion control. Also try giving the console a static IP, outside the DHCP range, and then rebooting the console so it can grab the new IP you have given it in the XR. Next, adding that, console to the XR DMZ. If you have multiple people in the household that also using their gaming console/pc. You can instead, enable, NAT FILTERING to 'OPEN' from 'Secure'. It's in your first screenshot. As this may also help with some of the packet loss you're experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 On 6/20/2024 at 11:29 AM, TrayDay said: No, you're fine with your connection if it is 100 download and 10 upload. 100 mbps should be decent enough for a household. But, I could see 10mbps upload, being a possible issue. But, not rule out what the Congestion Control can do. For example, using 'Always' to ensure that the CC is always working to ensure each device don't handicap the other when download or, more importantly, when streaming. I know you mentioned that you change the sliders, and whatever percentage you use, doesn't seem to help. Sometimes, starting fresh can help mitigate some issues. Factory resetting the XR, and set it up accordingly, while also using the 'always' option, in the congestion control. Also try giving the console a static IP, outside the DHCP range, and then rebooting the console so it can grab the new IP you have given it in the XR. Next, adding that, console to the XR DMZ. If you have multiple people in the household that also using their gaming console/pc. You can instead, enable, NAT FILTERING to 'OPEN' from 'Secure'. It's in your first screenshot. As this may also help with some of the packet loss you're experiencing. im going to try this today question so for the dhcp you said set it outside of the dhcp range so should i set the ip over 254 ? my starting ip Starts from 2 Ends 254 on my router and another question set up the Static ip on the Ps5 Console only or on the router like the picture. and yes i have multiple people in the household that also using their gaming consoles and pcs so do i set Nat FILTERING OPEN AND set my main console on XR DMZ ? or dont touch xr dmz if i have nat filtering open ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrayDay Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 hours ago, Alves910 said: im going to try this today question so for the dhcp you said set it outside of the dhcp range so should i set the ip over 254 ? my starting ip Starts from 2 Ends 254 on my router and another question set up the Static ip on the Ps5 Console only or on the router like the picture. and yes i have multiple people in the household that also using their gaming consoles and pcs so do i set Nat FILTERING OPEN AND set my main console on XR DMZ ? or dont touch xr dmz if i have nat filtering open ?? Your device will still be within' the DHCP range. As it does start at 2 and end at 254. So, 97 is still inside the DHCP range. Changing the DHCP to say Starting .100 and end .254. Then the .7 will be outside the DHCP range and shouldn't cause any conflict with the DHCP. As for the NAT FILTERING. Yes, when using OPEN. You will not need to use DMZ. UPNP will handle all the requests, and it's for gaming consoles. So, you should be fine. Enable NAT FILTERING and disable, DMZ, if it's already ENABLED. You should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves910 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 16 hours ago, TrayDay said: Your device will still be within' the DHCP range. As it does start at 2 and end at 254. So, 97 is still inside the DHCP range. Changing the DHCP to say Starting .100 and end .254. Then the .7 will be outside the DHCP range and shouldn't cause any conflict with the DHCP. As for the NAT FILTERING. Yes, when using OPEN. You will not need to use DMZ. UPNP will handle all the requests, and it's for gaming consoles. So, you should be fine. Enable NAT FILTERING and disable, DMZ, if it's already ENABLED. You should be good. ok sorry im so new to all of this so change the starting ip on my router to 192.168.1.100 like the picture bellow right ? it gave my ps5 console a new ip address 192.168.1.105? and the question i was asking before do i set up a ip address on advanced settings on the ps5 Console if yes what number do i give it . or should i only worry about Address Reservation on the router only thats the part im mostly confused about not sure if im explaining this right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Hi ! The simplest is to reserve it for the PS5 directly on the router outside of the DHCP lease. No need to do it on both! In your case between 1 and 99. Restart the PS5 so that the IP is taken into account... Netduma Fraser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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