bayleeshymko Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 20 minutes ago, TG3NOC1D3 said: Just an FYI, fiber doesn't mean zero bloat. Most ISP's do not provision their OLT's to help with bloat, they're designed for speed over latency so you'll still have to mitigate it on your end. My new ISP actually cared about keeping real time traffic smooth so my initial testing with just the modem was very nice but it was still increasing by 15-20ms under load on download test and about 50ms under load on the upload test, not terrible but not great. So I limit myself down from 950/950 to around 800/800 and I have zero bloat in either direction doing this. I know you have fiber but anything over 700 is going to rip through game updates and downloads. Just some food for thought, when I did have my R3 plugged in, I usually saw my full speeds but on my PS5 I was still being rate limited by their servers to around 825Mbps which is still more than enough to download a update or game. Majority of the time you're looking at 700's during busy hours as they do not like people saturating their servers. Yes I understand that but I cannot bypass my ISP router. They physically don’t let you. We spent two days on this forum and came to the conclusion that you can’t bypass even with bridge mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG3NOC1D3 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, bayleeshymko said: Yes I understand that but I cannot bypass my ISP router. They physically don’t let you. We spent two days on this forum and came to the conclusion that you can’t bypass even with bridge mode. A easy way to tell if it is truly in bridge mode is your IP will change from typically a 192.168.1.x to a non private IP range on the WAN IP of the R3. If it does not change, they didn't do it right. You may also want to do a full reset on the modem back to stock settings, then, set it to bridge mode, do a full reboot/power cycle of the modem with nothing attached and then power up the R3 so it can grab the new IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayleeshymko Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, TG3NOC1D3 said: A easy way to tell if it is truly in bridge mode is your IP will change from typically a 192.168.1.x to a non private IP range on the WAN IP of the R3. If it does not change, they didn't do it right. You may also want to do a full reset on the modem back to stock settings, then, set it to bridge mode, do a full reboot/power cycle of the modem with nothing attached and then power up the R3 so it can grab the new IP. Trust me I’ve already done this and ipv6 doesn’t work. I’ve covered every ground possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG3NOC1D3 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, bayleeshymko said: Trust me I’ve already done this and ipv6 doesn’t work. I’ve covered every ground possible ipv6 shouldn't be needed?? I would turn off IPV6 on the wan side completely as it doesn't work correctly for a majority of users currently. Also, from my reading online, only LAN1 can be used for Bridge mode to bypass the router. I have a Nokia ONT and I had to use LAN1 for mine to work correctly. Can you put a picture of your setup directly into the thread? I have to use my phone on my corporate network as it doesn't like external downloads. I also saw others say something about getting a external ONT which could help but I want to see if I can help your setup be more flexible in the future. Spdsk8race 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayleeshymko Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, TG3NOC1D3 said: ipv6 shouldn't be needed?? I would turn off IPV6 on the wan side completely as it doesn't work correctly for a majority of users currently. Also, from my reading online, only LAN1 can be used for Bridge mode to bypass the router. I have a Nokia ONT and I had to use LAN1 for mine to work correctly. Can you put a picture of your setup directly into the thread? I have to use my phone on my corporate network as it doesn't like external downloads. I also saw others say something about getting a external ONT which could help but I want to see if I can help your setup be more flexible in the future. IMG_1862.webp IMG_1863.webp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayleeshymko Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Just now, bayleeshymko said: IMG_1862.webp 100.12 kB · 0 downloads IMG_1863.webp 258.73 kB · 0 downloads I can’t add actual photos but save them to your phone and you can see the images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted March 21 Administrators Share Posted March 21 The return details are at netduma.com/terms and you'll need to email [email protected] to pursue a return which I can't see any correspondence from you there so far. Also, by connecting direct to a modem/router in bridge mode it's not doing any routing whatsoever so can achieve a lower ping/higher speed, when you then introduce a router doing routing that speed will decrease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG3NOC1D3 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, bayleeshymko said: IMG_1862.webp 100.12 kB · 0 downloads IMG_1863.webp 258.73 kB · 0 downloads Alright, do you see on the router where there is nothing plugged into port 1? Move whichever cable feeds your wall jack in the room the R3 is being used to port 1, make sure no other cables are plugged into that hub except the cable in port 1 that will feed the R3. Power down the hub before you do this, power off R3, then power up the Telus Hub, then once it is online, power up the R3. You will not want anything else connected to that hub so all your traffic is being handled by the R3. Spdsk8race 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayleeshymko Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, TG3NOC1D3 said: Alright, do you see on the router where there is nothing plugged into port 1? Move whichever cables feeds your wall jack in the room the R3 is being used to port 1, make sure no other cables are plugged into that hub except the cable in port 1 that will feed the R3. Power down the hub before you do this, power off R3, then power up the Telus Hub, then once it is online, power up the R3. You will not want anything else connected to that hub so all your traffic is being handled by the R3. Yes I have done that already 2 days ago. Fraser what you are saying is that to get no buffer bloat, my speeds will be lower and my ping will appear higher based on that the R3 is physically routing and doing everything the router needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG3NOC1D3 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, bayleeshymko said: Yes I have done that already 2 days ago. Fraser what you are saying is that to get no buffer bloat, my speeds will be lower and my ping will appear higher based on that the R3 is physically routing and doing everything the router needs? I would verify with your ISP that it truly is in Bridge mode and then ask if there is a specific port that runs it, it could be lan4 as well. Best advice, talk with your ISP about everything and see if there is anything else you need to do. If you want this to work, you're gonna have to put in the time , if not, go for a refund and stick with your setup from the ISP. Spdsk8race 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted March 21 Administrators Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, bayleeshymko said: Yes I have done that already 2 days ago. Fraser what you are saying is that to get no buffer bloat, my speeds will be lower and my ping will appear higher based on that the R3 is physically routing and doing everything the router needs? Using a router the speeds will always be a little slower and ping slightly higher than if you have 1 device connected to a modem. To eliminate bufferbloat Congestion Control should be used which will lower your speeds a little, this is normal - Bufferbloat/lag occurs when your network is saturated i.e. all your bandwidth is being used, by lowering Congestion Control you ensure that not all your speed can be used and therefore bufferbloat/lag does not occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spdsk8race Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 hours ago, dionsaur_ said: Update: Speeds/ping went back down after changing these settings 😞 What type of connection do you have currently? Fiber? What speeds are you expecting, and who is your ISP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murpdog54 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 On 3/20/2024 at 10:11 AM, Spdsk8race said: With my Google fiber, and after a lot of tinkering I was able to to get identical speeds/better speeds as I would get through the provided gateway. Better to start with one thing at a time, versus trying to get bufferbloat, speeds, ping, etc etc done all at once. For my setup I directly connected from the ONT to the R3. Under WAN: Changed the MAC address to match the Google provided gateway Changed DNS to the best one for me (1.1.1.1 primary, 8.8.8.8 secondary) Disabled upstream DNS Manually keyed in MTU to 1500 Left IPv6*ENABLED* (IPv6 is a toss up on if it's better or worse to have on or off. For my fiber connection, it's proved to be better in the long term.) LAN settings: Left IPv6 *ENABLED* (IPv6 is a toss up on if it's better or worse to have on or off. For my fiber connection, it's proved to be better in the long term.) UPnP enabled Internet rules settings: DO NOT SET ANY INTERNET RULES, DELETE ANYTHING WITHIN HERE. This broke my wifi speeds, wired speeds by literally in half. RGB lighting settings: Turned all off due to stability issues I have ran into with the router Geo filter settings: Disable steady ping Enable geo location Enable strict Ping optimizer settings: Set everything to 100% Congestion control mode set to low latency Speed test bypass is enabled at the moment/on/currently Red Smartboost settings: Turned on smartboost Simple mode enabled Removed all activities and devices Adblocker settings: Manually disabled every device in adblocker Then turned off adblocker. System information: Confirm/set time zone to your timezone Turned off all protection/protocols in troubleshooting and disabled telemetry under troubleshooting. With these exact settings I get these results consistently get 950-980 Mbps through ookla or directly through router speed test. Wireless I'm now getting 750+ Mbps and 4ms ping (when pinging the Texas Google fibers server of course) Well I tried all that and still getting low speeds even worse with your settings and I am in KC on Google Fiber. Changing my DNS servers made it way worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 9 Administrators Share Posted September 9 33 minutes ago, Murpdog54 said: Well I tried all that and still getting low speeds even worse with your settings and I am in KC on Google Fiber. Changing my DNS servers made it way worse. The team have a fix for the slowing of speeds, it will come in the next version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murpdog54 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 11 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: The team have a fix for the slowing of speeds, it will come in the next version Well that being said how long will that be, after my 14 days has expired to return, hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted September 10 Administrators Share Posted September 10 9 hours ago, Murpdog54 said: Well that being said how long will that be, after my 14 days has expired to return, hmm. We don't give out ETAs because it's always subject to change, so it's up to you whether you would want to return or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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