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oh ill be able to find it once im home then! Just at work so i cant look currently but i know exactly where it is and then ill follow what your post says earlier and go from there

 

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The way I see it, he doesn't have a simple ONT. In his case, ONT and modem are one and the same device. 
 

At least that's what you can find on the website of his ISP

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I reviewed telus website also, maybe I'm misreading this, but it's definitely 2 separate items based on these photos, and the factor it states that you connect the ont to the modem. 

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Hi,

The ONT seems included in the ISP box, the box order is your optical termination point. You will not be able to bypass your ISP box... Unless your ISP can provide you with an External ONT.

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Fuzy so in this instance can i please return the item as it can go to someone who can actually use this router. I wish i could but it seems like that isnt an option. Apologies for purchasing one before i knew.

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Agreed, the sfp is directly feeding into the "hub" it looks like someone mentioned on Reddit that it may use vlan, but I'm not quite sure it's the same box.  I wonder if using a sfp converter like this could bypass it?

TP-Link MC220L | Gigabit SFP to RJ45 Fiber Media Converter | Fiber to Ethernet Converter | Plug and Play | Durable Metal Casing | Versatile Compatibility | Auto-Negotiation | UL Certified https://a.co/d/eGlkN1u

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5 minutes ago, bayleeshymko said:

Fuzy so in this instance can i please return the item as it can go to someone who can actually use this router. I wish i could but it seems like that isnt an option. Apologies for purchasing one before i knew.

Are you plugging into the lan port 1 or the 10G port.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Fuzy said:

Hi,

The ONT seems included in the ISP box, the box order is your optical termination point. You will not be able to bypass your ISP box... Unless your ISP can provide you with an External ONT.

Fuzy so in this instance can i please return the item as it can go to someone who can actually use this router. I wish i could but it seems like that isnt an option. Apologies for purchasing one before i knew

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Just now, Fuzy said:

If you want to obtain speeds close to Gbps, it is possible even with the upstream ISP router. The rest is not up to me!

Behind my ISP router in DHCP/DMZ.

 

 

Yes i understand that but all of this isnt worth the hassle to me anymore at this point. Can you direct me to someone who can help with a refund and return please.

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25 minutes ago, Spdsk8race said:

TP-Link MC220L | Gigabit SFP to RJ45 Fiber Media Converter | Fiber to Ethernet Converter | Plug and Play | Durable Metal Casing | Versatile Compatibility | Auto-Negotiation | UL Certified https://a.co/d/eGlkN1u

For information, I do not think that this product is a viable solution because the ISP "connection" information passes through the ONT integrated into the ISP router. Many ISPs use this method because the rental of the Router is included in the package.

Certain country legislation requires ISPs to allow their box to be bypassed to use another hardware/router but there are not many of them.

This is why I asked him if his ISP could offer him an external ONT!

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Just now, Fuzy said:

For information, I do not think that this product is a viable solution because the ISP "connection" information passes through the ONT integrated into the ISP router. Many ISPs use this method because the rental of the Router is included in the package.

Certain country legislation requires ISPs to allow their box to be bypassed to use another hardware/router but there are not many of them.

This is why I asked him if his ISP could offer him an external ONT!

Mine cant just based off of where i am located they only provide the box i have. i messaged fraser for refund and return. if you guys ever need another tech support worker i feel as i could help. i love your products but looks as i cant use them in canada where i live anyways for now.

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7 minutes ago, bayleeshymko said:

but looks as i cant use them in canada where i live anyways for now.

It works very well in Canada as it does everywhere in the world, which is why the community is looking to help you configure it behind your ISP modem/router!

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2 hours ago, bayleeshymko said:

i have tried both already spd. both have the same issue.

There is a known issue with bridge mode and trying to use the 10g port, make sure your only using lan 1 port when using bridge mode on your device 

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2 minutes ago, Spdsk8race said:

There is a known issue with bridge mode and trying to use the 10g port, make sure your only using lan 1 port when using bridge mode on your device 

it still doesnt help the issue that it does bypass even with bridge mode. thats my main issue and why i want to return now. if it cant bypass my ONT/Modem 2 in 1 device there is 0 point in me even having this.

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14 hours ago, Spdsk8race said:

With my Google fiber, and after a lot of tinkering I was able to to get identical speeds/better speeds as I would get through the provided gateway.

Better to start with one thing at a time, versus trying to get bufferbloat, speeds, ping, etc etc done all at once.

For my setup I directly connected from the ONT to the R3.

 

Under WAN:

Changed the MAC address to match the Google provided gateway

Changed DNS to the best one for me (1.1.1.1 primary, 8.8.8.8 secondary)

Disabled upstream DNS 

Manually keyed in MTU to 1500

Left IPv6*ENABLED* (IPv6 is a toss up on if it's better or worse to have on or off. For my fiber connection, it's proved to be better in the long term.)

 

LAN settings:

Left IPv6 *ENABLED* (IPv6 is a toss up on if it's better or worse to have on or off. For my fiber connection, it's proved to be better in the long term.)

UPnP enabled

 

Internet rules settings:

DO NOT SET ANY INTERNET RULES, DELETE ANYTHING WITHIN HERE. This broke my wifi speeds, wired speeds by literally in half.

 

RGB lighting settings:

Turned all off due to stability issues I have ran into with the router 

 

Geo filter settings:

Disable steady ping

Enable geo location 

Enable strict 

 

Ping optimizer settings:

Set everything to 100% 

Congestion control mode set to low latency

Speed test bypass is enabled at the moment/on/currently Red

 

Smartboost settings:

Turned on smartboost

Simple mode enabled

Removed all activities and devices 

 

Adblocker settings:

Manually disabled every device in adblocker

Then turned off adblocker. 

 

System information:

Confirm/set time zone to your timezone 

Turned off all protection/protocols in troubleshooting and disabled telemetry under troubleshooting. With these exact settings I get these results consistently get 950-980 Mbps through ookla or directly through router speed test. Wireless I'm now getting 750+ Mbps and 4ms ping (when pinging the Texas Google fibers server of course)

 

 

Some of these settings helped lower my ping back down! Download speeds were still down though but, upload was full speeds! thank you

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56 minutes ago, dionsaur_ said:

Some of these settings helped lower my ping back down! Download speeds were still down though but, upload was full speeds! thank you

Update: Speeds/ping went back down after changing these settings 😞

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On 3/19/2024 at 8:18 PM, bayleeshymko said:

yes that is no worries at all to have to figure out and get setup for a return.

ok so when i setup the router i had put isp ONT in full bridge and restarted it let it fully boot up, then i turned the r3 on and let it boot up, logged in and it said i was only getting around 800 upload and around 850 download.

then i went to look at the bufferbloat with those speeds and they were all over the place so i had configured the congestion control however i have to drop everything down to about %60 of what i pay for which i just dont think is right with fiber.

yes i run on dhcp as well!

Just an FYI, fiber doesn't mean zero bloat. Most ISP's do not provision their OLT's to help with bloat, they're designed for speed over latency so you'll still have to mitigate it on your end. My new ISP actually cared about keeping real time traffic smooth so my initial testing with just the modem was very nice but it was still increasing by 15-20ms under load on download test and about 50ms under load on the upload test, not terrible but not great. So I limit myself down from 950/950 to around 800/800 and I have zero bloat in either direction doing this. I know you have fiber but anything over 700 is going to rip through game updates and downloads. Just some food for thought, when I did have my R3 plugged in, I usually saw my full speeds but on my PS5 I was still being rate limited by their servers to around 825Mbps which is still more than enough to download a update or game. Majority of the time you're looking at 700's during busy hours as they do not like people saturating their servers. 

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