SM961 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I can't seem to get rid of bufferbloat with my xr450, with my R1 yes, I can do that and therefore I get better gameplay, with xr450 not so much is too laggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Are you using PPPoE or VLAN by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Bert said: Are you using PPPoE or VLAN by chance? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted November 29, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2019 How are you measuring bufferbloat - dslreports? Have you tested using PingPlotter to see what Anti-bb settings keep the ping as low as possible when the connection is saturated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: How are you measuring bufferbloat - dslreports? Have you tested using PingPlotter to see what Anti-bb settings keep the ping as low as possible when the connection is saturated? Yes, I use Dslreports to do the measuring but with my XR 450 is all over the place, it doesn't matter how much I lower it, I still haven't figured out how to use PP. Is there a video showing how to lower your ping using PP? If not someone have to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted November 29, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2019 Sure, the reason we don't suggest DSLReports is because it doesn't saturate your connection properly. If you saturate your connection using downloads/streams and then follow this guide while changing your Anti-BB percentages to see what lowers the ping/keeps it as stable as possible http://support.netduma.com/en/support/solutions/articles/16000074717-how-to-test-your-internet-ping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: Sure, the reason we don't suggest DSLReports is because it doesn't saturate your connection properly. If you saturate your connection using downloads/streams and then follow this guide while changing your Anti-BB percentages to see what lowers the ping/keeps it as stable as possible http://support.netduma.com/en/support/solutions/articles/16000074717-how-to-test-your-internet-ping This is at idle speed, cable connection all my ethernet cable are CAT 6, I had DSL which was more steady, so what do you think? so it goes 15ms to 40ms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 This is with multiples streams. @ 70/60 using my R1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted November 29, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2019 That's not too bad, I would see if your idle is the same when connected direct to modem if it's like that normally then you do have some jitter on your line which may not be fixable. Then I would try some other percentages on Anti-BB see if you can get it any flatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: That's not too bad, I would see if your idle is the same when connected direct to modem if it's like that normally then you do have some jitter on your line which may not be fixable. Then I would try some other percentages on Anti-BB see if you can get it any flatter. I will try that when everyone is sleeping because right now everyone here wants to lynch me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 20 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: That's not too bad, I would see if your idle is the same when connected direct to modem if it's like that normally then you do have some jitter on your line which may not be fixable. Then I would try some other percentages on Anti-BB see if you can get it any flatter. This is a direct connection to the modem and computer, no doubt R1 is doing its thing. Multiples streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted November 30, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 30, 2019 What about trying other percentages on Anti-BB following the guide and saturating the connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: What about trying other percentages on Anti-BB following the guide and saturating the connection? The lower I get the worse it gets so far I got 70/60 still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted November 30, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 30, 2019 You can go higher as well, also try in 5 increments not just 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 I usually do 10 increments. I will try 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 10:37 AM, Netduma Fraser said: You can go higher as well, also try in 5 increments not just 10. New modem CM 1000 old modem cm600, new modem I see red lines under heavy loads, multiples streams. Pachet loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Is this packet loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted December 2, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2019 The red line on the graph does indicate packet loss. Hard to tell exactly where it's occurring as can't see the whole program but appears to be either within the home or just like one hop from you. Do you get it when there is nothing saturating it as that would be more concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 I did not test without saturating 41 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: The red line on the graph does indicate packet loss. Hard to tell exactly where it's occurring as can't see the whole program but appears to be either within the home or just like one hop from you. Do you get it when there is nothing saturating it as that would be more concerning. I think it the new modem cm1000 is giving packet loss, I did not test without saturating, I will do more testing, but either way it shouldn't happen, I don't see packet loss with the old modem even when I saturated the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted December 2, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2019 You're right, it shouldn't happen. It could be that it's taking a little time to sync with your connection, speeds can be reduced etc during this time so I'd give it a chance and see if it settles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: You're right, it shouldn't happen. It could be that it's taking a little time to sync with your connection, speeds can be reduced etc during this time so I'd give it a chance and see if it settles. Thanks for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Netduma Fraser said: You're right, it shouldn't happen. It could be that it's taking a little time to sync with your connection, speeds can be reduced etc during this time so I'd give it a chance and see if it settles. How does this one look? MB8600 modem Heavy load, saturated, multiples streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted December 3, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 3, 2019 That doesn't look too bad to be fair. I would expect some packet loss when saturated without QoS and doesn't seem to happen too often. You likely wouldn't notice it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM961 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: That doesn't look too bad to be fair. I would expect some packet loss when saturated without QoS and doesn't seem to happen too often. You likely wouldn't notice it either. I was getting better results with the Netgear Cm1000 (Netgear) for some reason than with this new modem MB8600 (Motorola). Packet loss with the CM1000 were far between than with MB8600 and also the ping under heavy loads were about 30 ms compare to this one around 50 ms if I remember correctly. Measurements taken from PingPlotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted December 3, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 3, 2019 Go with the CM then if that's what works best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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