Azlios Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I can be happily playing Rocket League on PC with a solid steady 24 Ping and then as soon as the Fire TV is turned on I have the worst lag ever with my ping fluctuating to over a 100 and then back down. I've tried literally everything I can to fix this, I've tried manually forwarding the required ports for Rocket League on PC, it had no effect. I've reclassified my PC on the duma as an xbox and it didnt change anything. I tried giving the Fire TV 0 priority in the flower but it literally changes nothing as it continues to pull absurd amounts of bandwidth. The only way I've found to stop it causing me to lag is to turn off share excess and give it .01Mbps of internet up and down. As you can understand this isn't ideal as I immediately get moaned at that the TV is now buffering. any help would be appreciated. Edit - its all PC games actually. getting the same on Siege as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boasty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Are you using ppoe , i know there might be problems using qos until they sort it out. If you are not using ppoe I would try a factory reset as this sorts it out sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, boasty said: Are you using ppoe , i know there might be problems using qos until they sort it out. If you are not using ppoe I would try a factory reset as this sorts it out sometimes. Been told I don't need PPOE when using a BT Smart Hub. Any time I've tried to use PPOE on the Duma with the Smart Hub I couldn't get a connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmMoDBoX Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I assume you're on dumaos? Add your own ports to hyper traffic for UDP 7000-10000 and it'll pick up RL and turn on QoS for you when you join a game I know their port forwarding rules say ports 7000-9000 but it uses up to 10000 I've spent ALOT of time trying to find a way to make it work, this is the only way I got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 I have tried this but I feel like I'm doing it wrong, do I put both numbers into both the source port and destination port boxes or do I only put 7000 in the source port and 10000 in the destination port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Admin Posted December 18, 2018 Administrators Share Posted December 18, 2018 What have you set your Anti-Bufferbloat % to? I recommend you set them to at least 70%, if not lower, to prevent congestion from building. Also, are you gaming wirelessly? It's possible this is a wireless issue caused when the Fire TV starts using data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, Netduma Admin said: What have you set your Anti-Bufferbloat % to? I recommend you set them to at least 70%, if not lower, to prevent congestion from building. Also, are you gaming wirelessly? It's possible this is a wireless issue caused when the Fire TV starts using data sliders at 70%, playing on TP-Link TL-PA9020PKIT power line adaptors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Admin Posted December 18, 2018 Administrators Share Posted December 18, 2018 Could you do these things please: Take a screenshot of your QoS page and post the image here What are your max download and upload bandwidth speeds? Could you run a Ping Plotter test when you're using the FireTV: http://forum.netduma.com/topic/23881-ping-plotter-quick-guide/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 So done some digging into this with PingPlotter, definitely something up with the fire tv. Max Down - 80Mbps Max Up - 20Mbps I actually get these speeds to, averaging between 76-79mbps and 17-19Mbps I hope this image makes sense to you guys, tried to make it as simple as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Admin Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 Thank you - this is a very clear diagram. As you found, looks a lot like it's down to the Firestick. Two questions: The Firestick is 100% connected to the router, rather than the modem? What are your QoS settings? Could you take a screenshot of your entire QoS page so we can check that everything looks ok? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 some of the device names are wrong, so where it says "Jack Desktop" its actually an xbox my PC is set up as a PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Admin Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 They all look great. Could you disable IPv6 in Network Settings for both LAN and WAN if you have not already done so please. Does that improve things? It's very odd that Fire TV is causing this many problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, Netduma Admin said: They all look great. Could you disable IPv6 in Network Settings for both LAN and WAN if you have not already done so please. Does that improve things? It's very odd that Fire TV is causing this many problems IPv6 has always been turned off as i've never known how to properly use it. I also found this, my amazon tv doesn't have the wifi direct thing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 Very good catch, that could be it, did you use a WiFi analyser to determine the WiFi direct channel wasn't available? Also could you disable DumaOS Classified Games please and then try RL & Fire TV again, does it still suffer the same issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Netduma Fraser said: Very good catch, that could be it, did you use a WiFi analyser to determine the WiFi direct channel wasn't available? Also could you disable DumaOS Classified Games please and then try RL & Fire TV again, does it still suffer the same issue? Yeah, I have no wifi direct thing as its the wrong type of fire tv. I've tried before with classified games turned off and it didnt help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 Whats your exact physical setup? It's strange that QoS isn't working properly, thinking it might be the way things are setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 I just have the standard st up. Wall socket > BT Smart Hub > Netduma > Everything Not really sure what’s going on with it. Thinking I might just replace the amazon tv with another chrome cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 Is your hub in modem mode or R1 in it's DMZ? Does it have WiFi enabled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Yup R1 in DMZ, WiFi on hub completely turned off along with the silly BTFon WiFi turned off too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 Do you have port forwarding or UPnP enabled on the hub? If so disable them. Are there any wired devices connected to the hub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 no port forwarding or UPnP enabled on the hub, only device connected to the hub is the duma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 The ping plotter tests you did, was it using a wired PC going through the power line adapter? If so is it possible for you to try without the powerline adapter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 It was indeed through a powerline adaptor. I can try and give it a go tomorrow straight from the router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Netduma Fraser Posted January 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 Great thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azlios Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 unfortunately being connected straight to the router didn't make much difference, if any at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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